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Title: Neat wiring job question
Post by: fatfingers on October 10, 2006, 03:23:21 pm

Hello.  I understand how to wire my control panel.  What I do not understand is how to do it neatly.  I'm even willing to give up on the neatly part, if someone would just give me an idea of what they use to "attach" the wires to the control panel so they are not hanging loose?  I have cable ties, but even if I use those, the tied wires still hang loose.

Thanks for any and all suggestions!
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Vigo on October 10, 2006, 03:27:43 pm
start by using cable clamps...Cheap and easy to find at almost any hardware store or even at a walmart.

(http://www.nelcoproducts.com/shopping/images/Molded_Cable_Clamps_big.jpg)

just slip in the wires and screw down
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: gamecreature on October 10, 2006, 03:28:37 pm
Or just staple the cable ties to your board.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: spacies on October 10, 2006, 03:30:14 pm
start by using cable clamps...Cheap and easy to find at almost any hardware store or even at a walmart.

(http://www.nelcoproducts.com/shopping/images/Molded_Cable_Clamps_big.jpg)

just slip in the wires and screw down

Those are a good solution. Here we call them 'P' clips.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: ahofle on October 10, 2006, 03:38:23 pm
I used 8 conductor wrapped cable and a staple gun to attach to the CP and it still looks messy.  But my wife says I am a slob, so....   :dunno
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Lewis Black on October 10, 2006, 03:39:42 pm
Also these can be found in the aisle by nylon ties.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Dervacumen on October 10, 2006, 04:22:43 pm
I used the cable clamps.  Last time I tried stapling wires I either shot the staple into some or stapled it with such force that I broke the wire in two.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Stingray on October 10, 2006, 04:28:49 pm
start by using cable clamps...Cheap and easy to find at almost any hardware store or even at a walmart.

(http://www.nelcoproducts.com/shopping/images/Molded_Cable_Clamps_big.jpg)

just slip in the wires and screw down

FYI, Bob Roberts stocks these. Not really worth buying them from him if that's all you need, but if you're ordering some stuff anyway toss a package or two in with the order.

-S
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: original_maxlamer on October 11, 2006, 06:29:15 am
Or just staple the cable ties to your board.
I would recommend stapling the cable ties to the board BEFORE tieing the cables with them (hope that made sense)  :dizzy: to avoid................
Last time I tried stapling wires I either shot the staple into some or stapled it with such force that I broke the wire in two.
which leads to short circuits  :blah:
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: daywane on October 11, 2006, 08:37:57 am
start by using cable clamps...Cheap and easy to find at almost any hardware store or even at a walmart.

(http://www.nelcoproducts.com/shopping/images/Molded_Cable_Clamps_big.jpg)

If you have a dollar tree or dollar eagle in you neck of the woods
those are sold for $1.00 for 20 pieces in a bag
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: arzoo on October 11, 2006, 09:19:22 am
I used a combination of p-clips and tie-wraps. Here’s a trick you can do with the tie-wraps to keep the wires secured – before clipping off the extra length, use a staple gun to attach the leg of the tie-wrap to the cp. If the staple isn’t tight against the wrap, you can loop it through one time. Here’s a picture of some of my wiring. If you look closely at the gray ribbon cables for the rgb LEDs, you can see how I did it.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Level42 on October 11, 2006, 10:40:54 am
Even though not perfect yet (CP will be replaced), I think my wiring is pretty neat:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51119.0
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: whammoed on October 11, 2006, 07:35:13 pm
Yep, p clips and LOTS of cable ties to keep the wires bundled together.

(http://web.tampabay.rr.com/whammoed/whammocade/pics/inside1.jpg)
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Grauwulf on October 11, 2006, 11:54:35 pm
Excellent looking wiring job arzoo. I use the staple & zip tie method usually, with the odd 'p' clip thrown in where needed. Some materials don't take staples too well, so you have to us the clips. The biggest thing that will help keep your wiring neat is make sure it is secured well. And use zip ties on the branches of the harness to keep everything together and neat.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Burke LaShell on October 12, 2006, 12:15:43 pm
I used the wire clips you nail in and some cable ties.  Worked well for me.
(http://lashellfamily.googlepages.com/iPac.JPG)
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: leapinlew on October 12, 2006, 12:21:11 pm
What kind of wiring? Solid core or strand? What gauge?

I used solid core - 18-22 gauge:

While not perfect, it's fairly clean. The solid core allows you to bend it the way you want and it'll pretty much maintain it's shape. I'm curious how stranded and clips would work.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pmAkndzHuOfe3aJNq1Usv04PKeceOoJQk7a3SZnr_ZrlnRfFRqkD9Tp_QEbZ_5YpTLO4zC8Xgibz2WhR3RJ7RaSY7b8j7JPScO4g8cJzFwSJZi91ex3B0JXm43wQITVJ3)
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Banacek on October 12, 2006, 12:44:47 pm
Wow, your guys wiring jobs look so nice, I'm ashamed to show mine :) I used a mix of p-clips, staples, and that tubing you can get at any electric store. I have no idea what it's called.

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4530/insidecpwu5.th.jpg) (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=insidecpwu5.jpg)
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: johnm160 on October 12, 2006, 02:16:39 pm
Neat wiring is the sign of a sick mind    :P
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: Grauwulf on October 12, 2006, 06:03:27 pm
I have no idea what it's called.

It's called split loom here. I use that stuff a lot when I'm doing car wiring, makes things look nice and neat and it is an extra layer of protection for the wires.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: jelwell on October 12, 2006, 06:33:03 pm
This might be obvious to most people, but:

You only need one ground wire coming out of your encoder, they can all run like christmas lights off the same wire, going in and out of each switch. You can see that in all the pictures above.

And yes, I *have* seen pictures of people who jammed one ground wire into their encoder for each switch - that becomes messy really quick.

Was that me on my first attempt? I can't remember and this picture is so frenzied that it's hard to tell if that's what I did (either way - don't do it):
(http://singleclick.com/gallery/d/43239-3/DSC04552.jpg)
Joseph Elwell.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: arzoo on October 13, 2006, 08:54:36 am
Another (obvious) method for neat wiring is to use different color wire. Although it doesn't seem to have helped in the cp above!  :dizzy:
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: ArcadEd on October 13, 2006, 06:00:16 pm
Also these can be found in the aisle by nylon ties.

These are the ones I like, the mounting tape ones, not the nail in.

(http://www.arcadeinabox.com/photos/jiab2_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: johnm160 on October 13, 2006, 09:23:43 pm
ArcadeEd,

What type of wire is that your using? It looks like the 25 pair phone lines.
Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: ArcadEd on October 13, 2006, 09:49:26 pm
That's actually a Happ Jamma Harness.

For arcade box builds I just use 22gauge stranded wire.  Green, Red and blue.  Green for ground, red and blue for players 1 and 2.

I bundle pretty close to the same way though. :)

Title: Re: Neat wiring job question
Post by: johnm160 on October 13, 2006, 10:00:07 pm
That's actually a Happ Jamma Harness.

For arcade box builds I just use 22gauge stranded wire.  Green, Red and blue.  Green for ground, red and blue for players 1 and 2.

I bundle pretty close to the same way though. :)



I see, I thought that was too many colors to be the run of the mill home center stuff... ;D