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Title: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: squirrellydw on September 30, 2006, 08:40:10 am

I am getting ready to make my 3rd control panel for my cocktail table and want to make sure I understand this. 

I plan on using GGG Ice Trackball and the Apache Spinner.  Is this all I need to connect it?  I understand I plug in a trackball to the spinner. 

OR

If I use the the spinner from GGG will the tops from Apache controls work?  I can hook it trackball to the GGG spinner also right?

Thanks

Title: Re: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: apachecontrols on September 30, 2006, 09:17:07 am

The GGG Ice Trackball should be able to connect to the Apache Controls (primary) without any difficulty, provided the GGG unit will allow for +5, GND as inputs and send outputs for S1 and S2 (signals 1 and 2) - This is a typical configuration for trackballs. Check the online PDF reference manual on the AC website for details on how this would work.
  http://www.apachecontrols.com/manuals/ApacheControlsBlackhawk.pdf (http://www.apachecontrols.com/manuals/ApacheControlsBlackhawk.pdf)

Since most of our trackball testing was with HAPP standard trackballs, I'll let Randy T explain more to see what additional thoughts he might share on this topic. :)

To answer part 1 of the second question, yes. The knobs from Apache Controls are compatible with any 1/4" shaft spinner out there today. As for part 2 of your question, not sure if a trackball can be connected to the GGG spinner control circuit. Again, I'll defer that to Randy.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

  :)


   David


Apache Controls, LLC
Honeoye Falls, NY (USA)

ONLINE: www.apachecontrols.com
EMAIL: support@apachecontrols.com

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Title: Re: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: RandyT on September 30, 2006, 11:38:38 am

The Electric ICE trackball has it's own interface.  It is an Opti-Wiz based board and allows for connection via USB or PS/2 (with appropriate adapter).  It does not need to be attached to a spinner, nor any other interface to function.

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If I use the the spinner from GGG will the tops from Apache controls work?  I can hook it trackball to the GGG spinner also right?

Yes, a number of gamers are using this configuration for their controls.  The standard Opti-Wiz to Trackball cable works for spinners with Z selected as their axis of operation.

RandyT


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Title: Re: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: squirrellydw on September 30, 2006, 10:06:47 pm

OK Randy, do I just need to order the trackball and your spinner?  I would want USB.  Should they all be the Number 1 device??  It will be the only trackball and spinner I use?

Title: Re: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: RandyT on October 01, 2006, 11:05:18 am

Quote from: squirrellydw on September 30, 2006, 10:06:47 pm

OK Randy, do I just need to order the trackball and your spinner?  I would want USB.  Should they all be the Number 1 device??  It will be the only trackball and spinner I use?

Yes, they will both run on their own and can both be device number 1.  The only time you would want a device two of any of the USB products is if you already had another of that same type of product (IE. 2 spinners, 2 trackballs, 2 GP-Wiz, etc.)

Even though the optical controls are based on the Opti-Wiz, each product group has been given its own product ID so there is no confusion at the OS level.  An Opti-Wiz won't conflict with a TurboTwist spinner which won't conflict with an Electric ICE Trackball, and so-on.

RandyT

Title: Re: GGG Ice Trackball and Apache Spinner
Post by: squirrellydw on October 01, 2006, 11:12:42 am

thanks, you will be getting an order from me soon  :)