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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: fredster on August 31, 2006, 09:11:17 am
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Radio shack fired 400 of it's employees (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/30/D8JQV30O1.html) via email.
Now isn't that nice? Anybody ever have this happen?
At least it wasn't a text message on the cell phone, but I suppose that's next.
Whatever happened to the good ol' days when they just gave you a pink slip and carried your ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to the door with you ?
Nobody has any balls anymore.
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Nobody has any balls anymore.
Too busy shaving them ... (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=57427.0) :)
Cheers.
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At least it wasn't a text message on the cell phone, but I suppose that's next.
That happened recently.
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/laborprof_blog/2006/08/fired_by_text_m.html
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Ouch. I'd be convinced it was spam or some practical joke and still show up for work.
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I remember back in 1998 or 1999 there was an electronics store chain (I think it was called Inca) and they closed all of their stores on the same day, but they failed to tell anyone but the managers that they were closing, so all the employees showed up to work to find all the doors locked with no way to get into the building. I still remember the picture in the paper of the employees sitting on the curb in front of the store waiting for someone to tell them whats going on.
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Harsh.
A couple of years ago while working at a hotel that had multiple banquet halls an airlines company had flown in people from around the country for this big event. Half of the people were told to go to a meeting in a room at one side of the hotel and the other half were told to go into one on the other side. Each room had about 400 people.
The people in one of the rooms were told that after today they were going to be getting a heavier work load because the people in the other room were being told they no longer had a job.
I was refilling the self serve coffee urns in the hallway and I didn't know what was going on. I just saw all the people from the fired room waiting in line to use the pay phones, on cell phones or hugging each other and they were all crying or looking very pale. This was a few months after the World Trade Center, so I was worried there was another attack. It was really depressing.
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When I was 15 I worked at Dunkin Donuts. 40 hours or so a week, had a close relationship with the owner because he liked having someone there during the baking hours to talk sports with all night. It was a good job about 100 yards from my house. I showed up to work one day (at 2am, keep in mind) and there was a giant hairy Greek guy baking. Dude yelled at me for going through the back door, then when I told him I worked there he said "not anymore you ---smurfing--- loser, I own this place now, get the ---fudgesicle--- out". I had been at work the day before and was given no indication of the place being sold. That was weird. Never heard from the prior owner again and I had to have my uncle the attorney contact the new owner to get my last paycheck.
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Goes to show how blackberries and cell phones and email have preverted our existance. We can't talk to anybody anymore. We can't stand confrontation in situations like this.
Used to be this kind of thing was done face to face. Now we are just vacuous heaps of spineless PC jargon.
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I think it's a sign of how nuts people are.
Send them an email, because if you do it in person they might kill you.
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I think it's a sign of how nuts people are.
Send them an email, because if you do it in person they might kill you.
At my last firm, we had a list of people that we thought would go postal if they got canned. Or if they got pissed. It was funny yet true though.
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Used to be this kind of thing was done face to face. Now we are just vacuous heaps of spineless PC jargon.
Not that different from receiving a pink slip with your pay check. I guess it is hard to fire 400 people on the same day one on one.
(not that I am defending this practice...)
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Doesn't have to be one on one... can be one on ten. One on twenty. However it is managed, people deserve a little dignity.
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and the ability to ask a question to the person who tells you that you are fired.
I'm sure all the email replies to the firing email got no response...
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They had a big meeting the day before and told the people they would hear electronically whether their "position had been eliminated"
Eff the bosses. If they don't want me, I don't want them, and I top tank the place before I leave.
Jacktucky "full of class"
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Forget that, top drawer them.
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if someone fired me by email i would go to their office and shove their pc up their arse until they said they were sorry,or just do what we do in the u.k and punch the sh4t out of them-not so smug now muther
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I'd go see a lawyer and force them to keep paying you until they actually sent an official document. Unless the company has a PGP or similar signing system, emails aren't signed, and a signed document is usually the minimum you need for contract termination.
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the sad thing is more and more companies will start taking this approach....
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I'd go see a lawyer and force them to keep paying you until they actually sent an official document. Unless the company has a PGP or similar signing system, emails aren't signed, and a signed document is usually the minimum you need for contract termination.
VERY few people have contracts for their jobs these days, especially at the level these positions were eliminated from. All they need to do is tell you their going to stop paying you, don't need much more than that to terminate at-will employment.
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What we need is more Unions ;D
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Well run unions, yes. Sadly, not many of them are well run anymore.
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My boss just sent me an email that Nintendo joysticks are always broken, and they suck. I felt this was out of line.
Jacktucky
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My boss just sent me an email that Nintendo joysticks are always broken, and they suck. I felt this was out of line.
Jacktucky
You've done it now. He's going to have to issue memo's to the entire company about the fallacy of your statement until your office turns into the local coma ward due to boredom.
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Woahhhhhh there cowboy... Slow down. You can't just send these things around like free smiles. You need to make sure you have completed your coversheet so the TPS info will be right, m'kay? :-*
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[Provocation]
Thank god I live in a country where employees have rights. ;)
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[Provocation]
Thank god I live in a country where employees have rights. ;)
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Loser. On our island worker's can have lefts as well. 8)
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I tell you...you guys are missing out on your middles. Suckers! :)
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so wait when you worked at dunkin donuts did you ever get free donuts?
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Didn't want them.
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Didn't want them.
Translation: I know what goes into them.
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Sorta... more like I know what goes into the fryolator with them. And how often that oil is changed.
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Translation: It was Chad's job to change the fryer oil.
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It was my job to change the filters on the grease trap... worst... job... ever. But we used to dip random stuff into the boiling oil to see what would happen. While making donuts. And one time we accidentally threw a live rat in there. Didn't change the oil, didn't even throw out the donuts that were in it at the time.
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And one time we accidentally threw a live rat in there.
Accidentally? What, you thought it was dead?
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no he thought it was a live.
sounds yummy. so whered you find the rat in the store or was it brought from the dumpster? and why a rat?
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And one time we accidentally threw a live rat in there.
Accidentally? What, you thought it was dead?
no, he thought it was a mouse
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They were doing construction next door, tearing down an abandoned building, and for a month or so there were rats everywhere on that street. Thousands of displaced rats. It was July, about a billion degrees in there, so we had the back door open while cooking. A rat ran in and jumped up on the powdered baking table. My boss took a towel and towel flicked the thing to scare it off the table. He actually hit it, it flew threw the air and landed in the fryer. Made a really sickly gurgling sound as it fried alive. We fished it out with the donut scoop and kept going because there was no way we were going to lose 90 minutes of prime baking time to flush the fryer and we had no place to store an unanticipated vat of oil that late in the month.
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I'm hungry!
WHO WANTS DONUTS!!
<pretend this is a puking icon>
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Can I get fries with that?
(http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/kids/testtubes/story1/mouse4.gif)
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They were doing construction next door, tearing down an abandoned building, and for a month or so there were rats everywhere on that street. Thousands of displaced rats. It was July, about a billion degrees in there, so we had the back door open while cooking. A rat ran in and jumped up on the powdered baking table. My boss took a towel and towel flicked the thing to scare it off the table. He actually hit it, it flew threw the air and landed in the fryer. Made a really sickly gurgling sound as it fried alive. We fished it out with the donut scoop and kept going because there was no way we were going to lose 90 minutes of prime baking time to flush the fryer and we had no place to store an unanticipated vat of oil that late in the month.
Oh yeah, heaven forbid you lose 90 minutes of baking time. You mean "I wasn't going to stay late, and it's not like I was going to eat the doghnuts." I see your attitude towards your fellow man started early in life. Makes me absolutely ill to think that there are people who feel this way, working in fast food joints (oh and yes I know you're not the only one, but that is absolutely no excuse).
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Clearly you've never managed in fast food, especially fast food with a very short shelf life and has a very specific customer rush period.
If we had thrown all of that stuff away and waited long enough to clean that vat we would have missed the morning rush entirely without any inventory. That would have decimated our sales for the day by about 85%. In a tiny profit margin business like fast food that's enough to destroy two weeks' profit.
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Clearly you've never managed in fast food, especially fast food with a very short shelf life and has a very specific customer rush period.
If we had thrown all of that stuff away and waited long enough to clean that vat we would have missed the morning rush entirely without any inventory. That would have decimated our sales for the day by about 85%. In a tiny profit margin business like fast food that's enough to destroy two weeks' profit.
Morning rush sales lost: $800.00
Raw materials to make more donuts: $35.00
Crispy rat disposal: free
Shop being closed for major health code violation? PRICELESS!!!!!!
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Dude, a free big coffee and egg sandwich, wrapped in a couple twenties, and the health inspector would look the other way if I teabagged the morning donuts.
Besides, it's more like $50 for raw materials + (two people for 5 hours each at $7/hr) + (power to run fryolater for 5 hours).
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too true...too true....
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Assinine assumption: PRICELESS.
Worked as a fast food manager for two years. Would have fired your fat *ss, or had you up on health code violations if I could. Never could stomach ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- teenagers that thought it was funny to poison customers because they didn't give a s*it, but hey if you're okay with how you made your money, good for you fat boy.
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Assinine assumption: PRICELESS.
Worked as a fast food manager for two years. Would have fired your fat *ss, or had you up on health code violations if I could. Never could stomach ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- teenagers that thought it was funny to poison customers because they didn't give a s*it, but hey if you're okay with how you made your money, good for you fat boy.
You obviously missed the bit where it was the owner who did it in the first place.
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Clearly you've never managed in fast food, especially fast food with a very short shelf life and has a very specific customer rush period.
Why must someone have "managed" fast food to know that not cleaning out after a rat is thrown into the oil is wrong?
Where are your morals? You should have called the health department. :lame:
Jacktucky
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Assinine assumption: PRICELESS.
Worked as a fast food manager for two years. Would have fired your fat *ss, or had you up on health code violations if I could. Never could stomach ---auto-censored--- teenagers that thought it was funny to poison customers because they didn't give a s*it, but hey if you're okay with how you made your money, good for you fat boy.
The other baker was the owner. It was his decision, not mine. You can find him and yell at him if you'd like. I won't mind.
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We fished it out with the donut scoop and kept going because there was no way we were going to lose 90 minutes of prime baking time to flush the fryer and we had no place to store an unanticipated vat of oil that late in the month.
I've worked with fryrs on multiple occasions, and for a donught shop that frys thier doughnuts, you should have at least a half dozen fryers since it is your main form of cooking. You always have to expect fryers to not be usable...they go out...that should be accounted for. a rat going in should be considered the same as a fryer not working. Even at the most meager stocked places, there is at least one spare fryer at bay.
Also disposal of fryer oil shouldn't be a problem. A place that uses fryers needs an oil disposal unit. Much like a dumpster, only for oil. A place without ample room for disposing oil is at itself code violation and it would be hard to keep the franchise without meeting code for oil disposal. I doubt your dougnut shop could fill an entire dumpster of oil monthly, especially if they don't like changing oil as much as you say.
I also love how you took credit for the whole deal, until people starting calling you on it...spoken like a true "don't give a crap" minimum wage employee. ::)
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We had two fryers. As you said, one was out. This was a small franchise making very little money if any at all. We didn't even have room for half a dozen fryers as more than half of our product was BAKED.
Since we only ran with one or two fryers at a time we did not have a large oil disposal unit. It did indeed get to nearly 100% full at the end of the month. We didn't have a compunction against changing oil except when we were actually using it.
And note that I also said that the franchise was sold unexpectedly (for me) not long after that. Dude wasn't making much money with it.
And hell yeah I was thinking like a min wage employee. I was freakin 15 years old. How many 15 year olds do you know who care much about the fast food franchise they work for?
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If we had thrown all of that stuff away and waited long enough to clean that vat we would have missed the morning rush entirely without any inventory. That would have decimated our sales for the day by about 85%.
We didn't even have room for half a dozen fryers as more than half of our product was BAKED.
Uhm... ???
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Different products produced at different times of day. Morning was almost all fried stuff - donuts, primarily. Later in the day would be baked goods - special orders and the like that we weren't working on that particular day anyway.
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Nice job.
Jacktucky