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Title: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Elastikman on July 30, 2006, 07:14:50 am
Hi!

Here in my country Portugal, they are many chinese shops selling ....CHINESE STUFF | :D

Yesterday i buy a cheap pair of pc gamepads..
they cost 7USD, is 2 gamepads connect between thems, with only 1 USD connection to PC.
No driver need. they have Direction pad, 8 buttons + Start and Select.

I just hack them i them works perfectly in mame.
So if any one is looking for cheap solution this is to consider :D

(http://bazar.planetaclix.pt/PICT0687.JPG)
(http://bazar.planetaclix.pt/PICT0686.JPG)

:D
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: kowal on July 30, 2006, 01:08:15 pm
I also will PCB gamepad than keyboard encoders. I had however to buy IPAC to electronic joysticks (P360, Suzo inductive). But if someone wants to have on 1P mechanical joystick this better to use PCBgamepad. This is not only smaller cost, PCBgamepad is better for games than keyboard: change of directions, larger buffer.
(http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/k-kowal/th_gamepadPC.jpg) (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/k-kowal/gamepadPC.jpg)
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Elastikman on July 30, 2006, 03:08:30 pm
The other great is this have 2 GAME PADS :) So can be use to 2 PLAYERS :D

Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Level42 on July 30, 2006, 04:25:55 pm
I also will PCB gamepad than keyboard encoders. I had however to buy IPAC to electronic joysticks (P360, Suzo inductive). ....
Kowal, why wouldn't you be able to use this cheap gamepad hack with a p360 or Suzo Inductive ? This is a good idea for my cocktail that still needs to be mamed. Only needs to handle p1, p2 and 2-way joystick and 1 button on each side...
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: kowal on July 30, 2006, 04:50:11 pm
problem is with voltage.  PCB gamepad has only + 3,3 V. It is possible to use dual shock and to to lead out voltage with vibration+stabiliser of voltage.
I did not want this to do alone. I preferred to buy IPAC. But my friend NemoKOF oneself this pretended from gamepad from PS2.
P360 work on 3,3 V. (in stick MassSystem is only  +3,3 V). But this damage joystick. http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41823

Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Elastikman on July 30, 2006, 05:18:38 pm
What do you mean they use 3.3V  and the other is +3.3V, for what i know this is the same...!
Or you mean the first one is refer to GND  ad the other is to -3.3V ?!

Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Grasshopper on July 30, 2006, 05:24:19 pm
Another problem is that not all gamepads have a common ground for their buttons. Some use a scanning-matrix style system. Unfortunately, these types of gamepad cannot be connected to the Perfect 360 and Suzo Inductive joysticks even if they use the correct voltage.
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: kowal on July 30, 2006, 05:46:32 pm
P360 and Suzo this electronic joystick. they must to have power supply +5 V.
I played several days on battery 4,5 V :laugh2:
(http://www.goldmax.pl/images/panasonic_plaska45.gif)
+ for P360
- for GND
interesting on how will it suffice long?
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: Izrun on July 30, 2006, 06:35:43 pm
But if this is USB, shouldn't there be 5v somewhere?  USB standard is 5v, right?  So solder straigt for the USB input...
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: RandyT on July 30, 2006, 07:24:03 pm
I recognize these.  I sell the same ones at the GGG store for $6.49 each, but in translucent blue.  If anyone would like, I can even gut them down to the PCB's before shipping.

But a word of caution: they aren't bad for a single player, but they don't allow all buttons to be pressed at the same.  One would definitely need 2 of them for a 2-player panel.

RandyT
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: NightGod on July 30, 2006, 07:27:05 pm
And if you are running off of a computer, it's insanely easy to tap into the 5V off one of the drive power supplies.
Title: Re: CHEAP 7USD USB SOLUTION to 2PLAYERS - JOYSTICK AND BUTTONS -> TO PC MAME :)
Post by: hanelyp on July 30, 2006, 07:35:41 pm
Another problem is that not all gamepads have a common ground for their buttons. Some use a scanning-matrix style system.
Same problem with a keyboard hack.  Simple solution (for serious electronics people, anyway) is the CMOS 4066 IC, quad bilateral switch.  Turns each signal line from the joystick into a seperate switch ready to interface with whatever encoder you want.