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Title: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: jbox on March 27, 2006, 01:22:24 am
Try this one. (http://www.philosophers.co.uk/cgi-local/wason.cgi?num=1) I think I went cross-eyed thinking about the tattoo one.  :dizzy:
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 27, 2006, 02:23:55 am
Questions must be randomized because I didn't get a tattoo question, but overall I found it very easy.  I got all 4 right and I just skimmed for the needed info on the last two questions.  I was a comp sci major in college and had to take a lot of logic classes, so maybe thats why it was so easy for me.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: quarterback on March 27, 2006, 02:29:41 am
I didn't get the tattoo one either, but I got them all right as well.

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Filing Mr Smith
You answered:
Correctly!
This question has been answered correctly on 32% of occasions.

Even Vowels
You answered:
Correctly!
This question has been answered correctly on 16% of occasions.

Pension Troubles
You answered:
Correctly!
This question has been answered correctly on 59% of occasions.

Dancing with Mushrooms
You answered:
Correctly!
This question has been answered correctly on 50% of occasions.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 27, 2006, 02:44:34 am
For some reason this made me remember the "game" Petals Around a Rose.  Take a look and see if you can figure out how to come up with the right number.

http://crux.baker.edu/cdavis09/roses.html

Theres also a funny story about Bill Gates and this game:
http://www.borrett.id.au/computing/petals-bg.htm
He couldn't figure out how to find the numbers so he started memorizing what the answer was to each combination of the dice.

*edit*  and I should probably mention I figured out petals around a rose in about 1/2 dozen rolls when I was first shown it.  Remember the name of the game is important.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: Buddabing on March 27, 2006, 12:10:03 pm
I personally prefer sudoku. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku)
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: shmokes on March 27, 2006, 03:12:05 pm
I got the tatoo one.  It was fine.  In fact all four of my questions were essentially exactly the same logic question under different circumstances.  Like asking, "If I have four bananas and I give one away how many are left?  Okay....now if I have four oranges and I give one away how many are left?  Got it?  Okay now, if I have four apples...."
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: hypernova on March 27, 2006, 06:37:49 pm
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Petals Around a Rose

I kept getting small numbers and couldn't figure the dang thing out.  Had like 5 rolls (didn't get higher than a six each time,) then read your Gates article.  On the third example they showed, I got it.
That first link with the actual game doesn't give ANY hints whatsoever, which was probably why it was so hard initially...that and my consistently low rolls.  I think you need those big rolls to help figure it out.  Well, and I missed your hint in your post too when I first played it, so that definitely DIDN'T help... :banghead:
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: jbox on March 27, 2006, 06:57:00 pm
I personally prefer sudoku. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku)
Yep, lots of those here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=44742.0).

And to those who insist on bragging about their implication 133tn355, feel free to tell me how many unique binary boolean operators there are if you want?  :applaud:
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: Dartful Dodger on March 27, 2006, 07:10:29 pm
In fact all four of my questions were essentially exactly the same logic question under different circumstances. 

I figured the answers were to obvious, so checked the opposite just to throw off the survey.

I got them all right, because it said I got them all wrong.

I still don't understand how these were tough questions.  

A person has to be 21 or older to drink alcohol.  
Which one(s) might be breaking the law? 
A is 23
B is 19
C is drinking beer
D is drinking coke.

Can someone explain to me how these was a trick questions?

The tattoo one was just the same thing only worded differently.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 27, 2006, 07:43:12 pm
And to those who insist on bragging about their implication 133tn355, feel free to tell me how many unique binary boolean operators there are if you want?  :applaud:
off the top of my head I can think of 10, am I right or did I miss some?

edit* just thought I'd post the ones I thought of,  == != < > =< => and or xor xand
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: hypernova on March 27, 2006, 10:23:57 pm
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Can someone explain to me how these was a trick questions

Because people are idiots? :dizzy:

Xor...sounds like a cool name for somebody.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: jbox on March 27, 2006, 11:51:27 pm
And to those who insist on bragging about their implication 133tn355, feel free to tell me how many unique binary boolean operators there are if you want?  :applaud:
off the top of my head I can think of 10, am I right or did I miss some?

edit* just thought I'd post the ones I thought of,  == != < > =< => and or xor xand
Not bad, anyone else want to take a guess?

edit* by the way, != and xor are the same thing. Also, what the heck is "XAND"?? Did you mean "NAND"?
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 28, 2006, 12:12:55 am
And to those who insist on bragging about their implication 133tn355, feel free to tell me how many unique binary boolean operators there are if you want?  :applaud:
off the top of my head I can think of 10, am I right or did I miss some?

edit* just thought I'd post the ones I thought of,  == != < > =< => and or xor xand
Not bad, anyone else want to take a guess?

edit* by the way, != and xor are the same thing. Also, what the heck is "XAND"?? Did you mean "NAND"?
heh, I was close.  Its been about 5 years since I've gone over that stuff so I'm just glad I was close :)
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: jbox on March 28, 2006, 02:17:01 am
Well, I just figured it would be easy since everyone here is a super logic genius! :)  You don't actually have to know what they are in order to work out how many of them there are either.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: Luxury on March 28, 2006, 01:29:57 pm
Does anybody here know who Silly Sally is?   ;)
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: PCtech on March 28, 2006, 03:00:28 pm
Does anybody here know who Silly Sally is?   ;)
Silly Sally went to town, walking backwards upside down." Silly Sally is a topsy-turvy cumulative tale about a girl who walks to town on her hands and starts a small parade..

Hope that helps  ;D
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: str1der on March 30, 2006, 04:20:44 pm
Does anybody here know who Silly Sally is?   ;)
Silly Sally went to town, walking backwards upside down." Silly Sally is a topsy-turvy cumulative tale about a girl who walks to town on her hands and starts a small parade..

Hope that helps  ;D

Was she wearing a dress?  >:D

I don't see what was so hard about the Petal and Rose. Took me 1 roll to figure out and 2 to confirm.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: hypernova on March 30, 2006, 05:21:41 pm
Some people tend to overthink it.  Which is what the article was saying.
Title: Re: Think you are good at logic puzzles eh...
Post by: Dartful Dodger on March 30, 2006, 06:56:15 pm
Some people tend to overthink it.  Which is what the article was saying.

That explains it.  I wasn't thinking, which is why I got it right, and which is also the reason I didn't read the article.