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Title: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Timstuff on March 21, 2006, 02:51:06 pm
A while back I purchased a Happ Universal joystick with the intention of putting it in 4-way mode and using it as my dedicated 4-way joystick, because of the "rotation" feature that lets you put it at a 45 degree angle for games like Q*Bert. But now, I'm starting to wonder if I'd be better off with a Ms. Pac-Man/Galaga Reunion 4-Way, because I am not entirely satasfied with the way the Universal feels in 4-Way mode (it's still possible to press diagonals, ontop of it). The Reunion joystick would have more solid 4-way functionality, and it also has a ball-top which would make it feel more authentic.

On the other hand, would i be alienating a hardcore Q*Bert fan by not having a 4-Way diagonal stick avalible on my CP? I myself never really played the game much, so I'm not entirely sentimental about it. On on the other hand, I shelled out nearly 80 bucks for a Tornado Spinner, even though I've never even seen a spinner game in an arcade. I do NOT want to have 2 dedicated 4-Ways on my panel, that I can already be sure of. Not only would I have to re-work my CP design to accomidate it, but it would also be more expense, and for just one game that I won't even play that much.

Can someone give me some advice? Should I use the Universal that I already have and have Q*Bert play the way it ought to, or should I order a Reunion, and have better and more authentic controls for the games I'm actually going to play regularly?
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Tiger-Heli on March 21, 2006, 03:29:24 pm
IMHO, Q-bert plays just fine with my Prodigy joys in 8-way mode, but I just occasionally play the game, and the Prodigies have somewhat of a square feel in 8-way mode.

Depending on what your 8-way sticks are, I would probably get the reunion and not worry about the universal for Q-bert.

That said - you might be able to bend the leaf switches on the Universal so you can't press the diagonals and still be able to use it for 4-way games.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Timstuff on March 21, 2006, 03:46:37 pm
My Universal uses microswitches, not leaves, so the idea of bending them wouldn't work, but thanks for the advice anyway. I'm going to be using Happ Competions for my 8-way sticks. The Reunion joystick is looking mighty good to me right now. Any more opinions?
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Farmboy90 on March 21, 2006, 03:53:09 pm
Are you a huge fan of the fighter games?  Just curious since you said you were getting the Happ Competition sticks...
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Tiger-Heli on March 21, 2006, 03:55:43 pm
My Universal uses microswitches, not leaves, so the idea of bending them wouldn't work, but thanks for the advice anyway. I'm going to be using Happ Competions for my 8-way sticks. The Reunion joystick is looking mighty good to me right now. Any more opinions?
Comps have a square actuator, making them easy to feel the corners, so that should work well for a Qbert stick, I think.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Timstuff on March 21, 2006, 04:08:21 pm
Are you a huge fan of the fighter games?  Just curious since you said you were getting the Happ Competition sticks...

Yup. I love me some Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: rlemmon on March 21, 2006, 04:10:07 pm
Have you thought about a mag stick plus ? That way you have real 4 and 8 way play because of the rotating restrictor plate. I got one a week a go and i love it. :D
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Xam on March 21, 2006, 06:35:55 pm
The Ultimarc E-stick is another option. Uses restrictor plate for 4 way action and can be turned to accomadate games like Qbert and Congo Bongo.

You can check out the magstik and e-stick here.

http://www.ultimarc.com/controls.html

Xam
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: RobotronNut on March 21, 2006, 08:45:37 pm
The Ultimarc E-stick is another option...

The E-stik is identical to the Happ Universal, which he has and doesn't like.

If Qbert isn't a priority, go for the Reunion, and use your 8-ways for Qbert.

I love both Qbert and many old 4-way games, so I have 2 reunions in my panel. They are excellent. For details on 3rd-party replacement ball-top shafts to fine-tune the height of your reunion, click the link in my signature.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: hypernova on March 22, 2006, 06:31:05 pm
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If Qbert isn't a priority, go for the Reunion, and use your 8-ways for Qbert.

I'll second that notion.

Though I'm like you robotronnut.  I got two reunions.  Even did it just for Q-bert on the diagonals.  Never played the others yet.  Will try them once it's up and running.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: mccoy178 on March 22, 2006, 06:35:51 pm
Go with 49 ways and a reunion.  Don't forget the "O" and "K" buttons.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: pointdablame on March 22, 2006, 06:41:24 pm
Get the reunion. there is NOTHING that can replace a dedicated 4way.  In fact, I'd get a NOS 4way WICO if you can swing it.  If not, the reunion is a great stick.  I had one in my last machine, and will probably be putting one in my current catastrophe machine :)  Might wind up with a WICO I have sitting around though :)

As for Qbert, if you set it up correctly, it plays ok on an 8way.  Unless you're a big, big Qbert fan, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: Kremmit on March 23, 2006, 12:21:52 am
As for Qbert, if you set it up correctly, it plays ok on an 8way.  Unless you're a big, big Qbert fan, you'll be fine.

On a square-restricted 8-way, that is.  Not so hot on a round-restricted 8-way like a Super or a Wico 8.
Title: Re: I'm torn... 4-Way joystick related
Post by: quarterback on March 23, 2006, 12:27:00 am
Get the reunion. there is NOTHING that can replace a dedicated 4way.  In fact, I'd get a NOS 4way WICO if you can swing it.  If not, the reunion is a great stick. 

I just played with a Nintendo 4-way (like found in Donkey Kong) and forgot how sweet they are. 

I like the Nintendo 4-way action better than my reunion stick.  I haven't compared them side-by-side so I'm not even sure what the specific difference is, but the Nintendo seemed more authentic... probably because it's what I was using when I played DK as a kid.