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Title: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: AlexC on March 12, 2006, 03:56:32 pm
This was last email from Harpal :

h i,

sorry if you think this is taking ages,  i aint been at the office much as still sorting the warehouse out, i didnt have time to check the paypal  account  as who ever did this,took afew of our computers and my main laptop which i used to keep my passwords sercured onto the pages so i dont need to type them every time going onto ebay or paypal anyway had a phone call from a mate saying lots of stuff was being sold cheap  on my ebay account, and he was asking me if he can come pick up the stuff so i said i dont have a clue what you taking about,anyway he was write my account had been used, but luckly i put a stop onit in time as the auction didnt end, plus my paypal account had 3555pounds spend through it, so paypal are checking my account at the moment i have asked them to refund you, but it is down to them and will have to wait, only other solution i can say is a bank transfer

let me know
-----------------------------------------------------

Like I would give him my freakin bank information.
What a loser.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 12, 2006, 04:28:07 pm
What a piece of crap, I called my credit card company today and they stated it would take between 6 to 8 weeks to get refunded. Honestly I would just like to kick his --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- for free....
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: srabelpawz on March 13, 2006, 12:38:52 am
  I almost sent a bunch of stuff to him(Harpal) for an xbox 360. thank god that deal fell through
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kenmelk on March 13, 2006, 12:41:18 am
Harpal got me too!!  I am waiting on 1 xbox 360, 4 PSP games, 2 LCD screens, I PCIe Videocard, and some other stuff, I paid him around feb 3, do you all think i can get paypal to give my money back still??  I got the warehouse email also, but not the same one you guys did.  I also got the crap about how he has been busy and will get me my receipt and shipping stuff soon!  What a joke, i am about to fly to the UK, and kick his wanker --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules--!!!

Harpal if you read this, i know you supposedly had some sh** to deal with, that is fine, ATLEAST let us all know about our packages, or give us our money BACK!!

I for one am going to the US attourney general to see if there is anything that can been done, and i am going to contact the athorities in his area as well, if anyone has his address, please PM me with it.  I have a friend who works for the FBI, and i am going to have him do some checking too!

This really pi$$es me off as i don't have a lot of "extra" cash floating around, and he got about $300 of the little that i had!!  I know if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is!!!!!

Harpal contact me ASAP, or this will get ugly and you will get charged with theft, i am not kidding here!
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kenmelk on March 13, 2006, 12:43:24 am
Here is my last email from him:

Harpal
Full Member

 Offline

Posts: 301


I'VE STARTED BUILDING MY FIRST MINI ARCADE!!!

 
     Re: xbox 360
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rugby1 on March 13, 2006, 01:01:56 am
Wow,  what if Harpal turns out to be legit?  aren't you gonna feel like an ass

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SOAPboy on March 13, 2006, 01:11:18 am
Here is my last email from him:

Harpal
Full Member

 Offline

Posts: 301


I'VE STARTED BUILDING MY FIRST MINI ARCADE!!!

 
     Re: xbox 360
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rugby1 on March 13, 2006, 01:14:45 am
looks like he PM'ed you all on Feb 26th... 2 weeks is hardly forever... just playing devils advocate here   ;)  now if it was 3 months (like SS) then I would be pretty ----smurfed---- off too
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: versapak on March 13, 2006, 01:36:30 am
looks like he PM'ed you all on Feb 26th... 2 weeks is hardly forever... just playing devils advocate here   ;)  now if it was 3 months (like SS) then I would be pretty ----smurfed---- off too

2 weeks, with no contact from someone that already has a few hundred dollars of your money, is hardly what I would call a short amount of time.


You sit on your ass for 3 months, then that is 3 months that the scam has gone cold, and the guy has now had to get further away.


Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kenmelk on March 13, 2006, 01:50:02 am
You are right about the 2 week thing, HOWEVER since then i have sent NUMEROUS emails and PMs to no answer.  And if he is legit, I will not feel like an --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules--, I will be a man and publicly appologize to him no big deal.  To be honest i thought he was a pretty nice guy and good to deal with.  So it seems i was wrong.  If there were not other complaints and it was just me, then maybe i would feel bad, but after reading all these, i see where it is headed, and I WILL PRESS CHARGES, HARPAL, if you read this, you better check your PMs as i am going to the authorties, and need some kind of response before so.
Hey ponyboy, can you get me that phone number you have for him?  Anything like that will help out in tracking him down!

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: dweebs0r on March 13, 2006, 08:55:51 am
Anyone called the local police in his area?  That has worked in the past.
Visits from the local police always brings things into focus.
Generally its some kid who thinks he is a computer hacker and doesnt realize how not very anonymous the web can be.

-Dweebs
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: dweebs0r on March 13, 2006, 09:05:47 am
I just noticed that the guy is in the UK.  That could complicate things a bit.

(I hope my comments werent out of line, Saint.  Usually I am way more crude and rude).   :D

-D
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: AlexC on March 13, 2006, 09:38:59 am
To anyone that bought stuff from Harpal. If you paid via Paypal, file a claim against him ASAP. I think you only have 45 days from the day you paid him to file the claim.
If he does not respond in 10 days to Paypal you get your money back. I got mine back.
Good luck all.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: pointdablame on March 13, 2006, 11:46:12 am
To anyone that bought stuff from Harpal. If you paid via Paypal, file a claim against him ASAP. I think you only have 45 days from the day you paid him to file the claim.
If he does not respond in 10 days to Paypal you get your money back. I got mine back.
Good luck all.

Just a note... You'll only get your money back if the money is in his account currently.  If not, it gets even more complicated.

Paypal is not as buyer friendly as they lead you to believe, trust me.  Glad you got your money back though.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 13, 2006, 12:49:15 pm
Obviously waiting for an item for 7 weeks with no response and you state that harpal is legit !!!! Harpal is the biggest crook on here, I am getting a ton of email from the board telling me that no one to date has ever received anything from harpal...

If harpal was legit, why would he take this long to respond?? Why no emails?? Why no refund?? I will get my money back in 6-8 weeks from my cc company, but what if the buyer had paid by money order, obvious there is no way to get your money back, except for the mo receipt and good luck going to the post office trying to get your cash back on this.

I really feel sorry for all the good people in the forum here that were scammed out of hundreds of dollars. I personally lost $100 from him, but will take time to get it back. 

If anyone paid by credit card, call your cc company and file a claim ASAP. Same goes for paypal, you have 45 days to file a claim.

If you paid by money order, then you might be out of luck.. Search the interet, call the post office to see what you can do to get your hard earned cash back..

My buying tips for future purchases:

- Always pay by credit card, that way if you are scammed you will get your money back
- never send a money order or cash
- check users feedback
- ask ?'s before purchasing
- never buy out of the country

Well I learned my hard earned lesson, hopefully you can do the same..

I am just glad that I started this bad traders forum, I saved a few people their hard earned cash from being takesn and that makes me feel good.... ;)

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: pointdablame on March 13, 2006, 01:30:25 pm

- never send a money order or cash



Money orders are trackable and verifiable about whether or not they were cashed.  The non-shipment of items after cashing a USPS money order also constitutes mail fraud.

MO's are more safe then PayPal IMO... there is nothing wrong with them.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: missioncontrol on March 14, 2006, 12:06:23 am
Money orders also make it easier to get them on mail fraud too
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rugby1 on March 14, 2006, 04:32:21 am
Obviously waiting for an item for 7 weeks with no response and you state that harpal is legit !!!! Harpal is the biggest crook on here, I am getting a ton of email from the board telling me that no one to date has ever received anything from harpal...

First off,  Don't misquote me...  I simply said that WHAT IF he is legit?  He might not be but I never said he was or wasn't.....    Sometimes real life gets in the way of our hobbies....   I would file a complaint with the BBB, Paypal, Post office (or however you paid) and give the system time to do its thing...   threatening to pay someone a visit and beat them up isn't mature and probably is illegal in itself.... worst case is you are out a little bit of money,  you can't take it with you when you die so is it worth getting your blood pressure up?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rugby1 on March 14, 2006, 04:38:15 am
Reminds me of a t-shirt my girlfriend got me:

"You have the right to remain silent, Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you"
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: mccoy178 on March 14, 2006, 04:49:35 am
I am just glad that I started this bad traders forum, I saved a few people their hard earned cash from being takesn and that makes me feel good.... ;)

I'm pretty sure no one else is buying anything from Harpal, and that seems to be the focus of this thread.  I would say this thread has been good as a breeding ground to harbor bad feelings.  That is the number one reason this wouldn't get stickied.  It gives guys an open door to jump on someone.  So far so calm, but it never fails, someone gets burned and may post a respectable reply, then bam, it's a lynching and off on the post hell train we go.  I would suggest a thread for the people who were stiffed by Harpal so communication can stay centralized.  If it was serious, no one would mess with it. ;)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kenmelk on March 14, 2006, 06:55:38 am
This is my final message to HARPAL, and YES i mean what i say so ANYONE who lost money to HARPAL i need to know the amount and when it happened.  I work for the FBI so i have connections, i do not like to let that info out, however i want you all to know i am VERY SERIOUS about this!!!!
This is the message, sent today at 7 AM, i amso sent it to his EBAY acount:


Ok here is the deal, I am going to the authorties, i am sending the cop to
102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.
this is your supposed warehouse.  You will be charged Federally in the US fof Fraud, and i am getting together with others you ripped off, so the amount is well over the $500 for GRAND THEFT so you will be charged with that also.  You can use the money you stole on lawyers.  I am contacting the police in your area, and you WILL BE ARRESTED and charged in your country as well, i have worked it out with the US Attorney General, you screwed me and others, not a good thing as this is not over and you are going to be on the losing end.  At 10 AM TODAY i am talking to the Attorney General and after that there will be nothing i can do to help you.,  I am giving you an opportunity here to make this right BEFORE the cops get involved, CONTACT ME TODAY, AT LEAST TELL ME TO "SCREW OF WANKER" OR SOMETHING!!!  Have the GUTS to be a man and step up and DO THE RIGHT THING HERE!!

Ken
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: mccoy178 on March 14, 2006, 07:22:05 am
Hey, next time you want a spinner, you just let me know, I'll get outta the way. :police:
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: whatzcrackn on March 14, 2006, 08:59:13 am
If I am not mistaken, Harpal has like a thousand or so cabs.  If he is beating you guys out of money.........  ???

You may be completely supplying his cabs...  Dont send that guy anyone money!!!

Hopefully he will get his, May he play Tron one day and get zapped into the machine  :D

Well atleast it sounds good!
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: nullb0y on March 14, 2006, 11:52:47 am
yeah... i kinda caught on to Harpal early heh thats why i never traded with him he was a member for like a few weeks and had almost as many posts as me? Post counts just to get them and then try to sell stuff (pop items) like xbox 360s and when i discussed a cheap item he was gonna charge me uber on shipping lol its just alot of red flags with him
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: F1r3f1ght3r on March 14, 2006, 01:50:53 pm

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: GGKoul on March 14, 2006, 02:35:49 pm

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***

On google maps just type in the postal code... UB1 1JL
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: F1r3f1ght3r on March 14, 2006, 02:42:37 pm
F1r3f1ght3r passes some popcorn and soda that was creatively acquired from a "warehouse" somewhere in london.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 14, 2006, 03:50:45 pm
Just curious, Has anyone ever received anything from Harpal to date even before this scam???
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: mccoy178 on March 14, 2006, 04:34:01 pm
I'm telling ya, start a Harpal scammers only thread.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Fozzy The Bear on March 14, 2006, 08:26:45 pm
I have not bought anything from Harpal.... I am, disgusted that somebody from my home country, the UK, has been scamming the comunity like this.

However, there are a few things that you guys in the USA should note...

1) Southall, is a pretty notorious "high crime" and "gang" area of London...

2) His claims to have been burgled followed by his further claims to have had his ebay accounts and paypal accounts scammed to the tune of
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: saint on March 15, 2006, 08:15:51 am
This thread has been split off from the Bad Trader's sticky.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: melidian on March 15, 2006, 08:37:16 am
yeah, i had a bad vibe about that kid but it's likely people like harpal don't read the emails they get after something like this...your threats/complaints are probably falling on deaf ears - so if there is action to be taken i would initiate the process ASAP
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: pcates on March 15, 2006, 10:56:59 am
I just got my $$ back from paypal :) I consider myself lucky, but if you used paypal, file a claim. Mine took 1 week to be resolved, but he must still have some $ left in his account. Maybe they froze it before he could pull all the money out.

Still kind of sucks though, because now I need to find a Ms Pacman PCB, and bezel. Anyone have an extra about??

Good luck to all,
Patrick
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 16, 2006, 07:38:31 pm
Ok, There is a case pending against him in the UK, and that is/was his real name.  I have spoken to the US attourney general and he is looing into what we can do here. I have had a few people let me know how much they got taken for, i need the rest, i can assure you all that i will nto publically post your names as to being scammed if anyone is worried about embarassment.  Harpal will get his, there is a warrant for his arrest pending and he will be charged.  The last known address does NOT match the address he has given to people, i can tell you this, the cell number AT ONE TIME is/was a legit number to him, however it has been disconected.  I am currently trying to get the new number he has.  So please if you sent money to HARPAL and are not receiving your stuff i need to know the amount and when and how you sent it PLEASE.
We have traced his IP address back to a different address and that seems to be his actual residence. I will keep you posted as things develope.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 16, 2006, 09:05:08 pm
We have traced his IP address back to a different address and that seems to be his actual residence.

Curious who we is and how you actually traced it to an exact address...
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: markrvp on March 16, 2006, 09:49:29 pm
We have traced his IP address back to a different address and that seems to be his actual residence.

Curious who we is and how you actually traced it to an exact address...

He said he worked for the FBI I thought.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 16, 2006, 10:51:40 pm
We have traced his IP address back to a different address and that seems to be his actual residence.

Curious who we is and how you actually traced it to an exact address...

He said he worked for the FBI I thought.

You believe that? I smell an exaggeration. Perhaps he knows someone who is going to go in the FBI. Or maybe his dad/mom works at the FBI.


Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 16, 2006, 10:57:02 pm
We have traced his IP address back to a different address and that seems to be his actual residence.

Curious who we is and how you actually traced it to an exact address...

He said he worked for the FBI I thought.

You believe that? I smell an exaggeration. Perhaps he knows someone who is going to go in the FBI. Or maybe his dad/mom works at the FBI.


Ya know what...

It doesn't matter - sorry to hijack. Lets get back on the anti-karpal bandwagon. He sounds like he scammed some people. Sorry if you got taken Ken (it happens to the best of us).
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 16, 2006, 11:03:18 pm
leapinlew, I am 35, not a kid, been in the FBI for about 14 years now, i resent the fact you do not believe that, i do not have to prove myself to you or anyone else, i can only tell you the FBI has been my employer since i finished college.  I have a Masters in PSY, and a BA in criminal justice.  And my mon/dad owened their own companies for you information...I am not posting to get attention or anything like that, I am trying to right a wrong, nothing more nothing less if you do not want me to help then fine i will only help myself.  I work for the FBI in a division where i have access to that kind of thing, trust me on this.  I really hate to let people know where I work, it really is tough on me.  I can tell you this, we/I did trace his IP, we have our ways.  I am not in the business of messing with people, it is this guy just screwed alot of people and i was one of them.  This guy is gonna pay for his actions.  Now i am not going to be publicly announcing what is going on anymore as i do not feel like dealing with people questioning my motives or resources, so if you have been screwed by HARPAL or want an update, then PM me and i will let you know what the deal is.

Thanks

Good luck to all who got screwed!
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: saint on March 17, 2006, 09:20:30 am
For what it is worth -- I will not release an IP address or any other kind of personal information I have regarding access to these forums unless I am approached by verified law enforcement, am legally compelled to do so or believe there is a compelling reason to do so (such as someone's health or safety being at risk). I have not been approached by any party asking for information on this situation, and have not given any information to anyone concerning this situation.

----

That being said, it certainly sounds as if people have a legitimate case here and I hope efforts to pursue the matter and resolve it are successful. I just didn't want anyone to think I would lightly give out such information.

--- saint
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: vader on March 17, 2006, 12:34:06 pm
Was wondering that myself.  how can he possible track a ip address unless saint gave it to him or he got email from the guy directly.  That being said, I've had good
dealing with KenMelk so I have no reason to doubt him.

Tim
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 12:50:28 pm
My mistake i DO NOT want anyone thinking Saint gave anything out!!


OK just to clarify we did not use this forum to track his IP, we used EBAY as it had more information reguarding him.  2, Saint and all others, we do not need anything released from anyone to trace an ip, i know you all think that we do however we can track anyones ip via the net with nothing more then a click of a mouse.  And to Saint, i think in the next week you will be contacted about this, if not by me (and i will show you proof and idenity that i am a law enforcement officer) then by another in my office.  I do thank you for your stance on not releaseing any info, that is the way it should be, but like i said to be very honest, we could trace ANYONES IP address.  That being said i want to be clear that we DO NOT again DO NOT do such things unless there is a reason, and HARPAL had given a reason. 

Now to keep you all up to date, we have his name, his address, and his phone numbers, and there is a pending case of fraud and grand theft on him now.  If you lost money you MAY be able to recover it, however if you lost stuff on trade, that MAY not be recoverable.  I urge anyone who paid via paypal to file a complaint and ry to get your money that way. 
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: F1r3f1ght3r on March 17, 2006, 01:11:17 pm
*COUGH* dcs1000 *COUGH*

sorry.... couldn't resist
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Timoe on March 17, 2006, 01:12:10 pm
Are you trained in tactics?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 01:16:05 pm
F1r3f1ght3r...he he he


Anyway as for what i am trained in, it does not matter this is a thread about HARPAL screwing people over not me, like i said i even HATE to mention where i work, i just wanted to let people know that i do have the ability to get things done.  So please lets get back to HARPAL.
Thank you
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 17, 2006, 01:45:53 pm
we could trace ANYONES IP address. 

It's things like this that make you lose creditability with me. Coming from a technical IT background I know this statement to be false. Or at best, highly exaggerated. For the following reasons:

Dialup users receive a different IP upon each connection. If you traced the IP back "with a few clicks" you would find the company who registered that IP's address. Forcing you to deal with that ISP. AOL users work under this setup.

Some networks are built behind firewalls and proxies that take advantage of NAT/PAT to serve more customers then they have IP's. Some networks have no choice but to use a private IP address to allow the routing of their customers packets to a central location. Rural wireless and some satellite internet works this way.

Lastly, some countries come from a pool of IP's. It would be impossible to track down these IP's into another country, especially a communist country like China.

If you were to be from the FBI, I would think a background check of Harpal before you purchased anything from him would've been a prudent and valuable step in avoiding this whole mess. I assume it's possible you are a law enforcement officer who isn't technical in nature. But, when you say things like "we could trace ANYONES IP address." and imply you can do it to their front door is ludicrous.

Personally, reading your poor punctuation, lack of capitilization, misspellings, and claim to be a law enforcement is insulting. I am sorry you were taken by Harpal and I also am sorry for anyone else who may have been swindled, but it seems like you had more resources then most to avoid this situation and warn anyone else.

Good luck with this, I hate to see anything like this happen to anyone. If you still have a problem with me - shoot me a PM. This is getting ugly and doesn't deserve to be in a public forum.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 05:46:41 pm
Wait a minute, i DO NOT nor WILL NOT do backround checks on everybody i deal with that is just stupid, everyone in this world is not a crook.  I do nto really care if you believe me or not like i said I DO NOT need to prove myself.  And if you are an IT guy as you say, then maybe you are not up to date on your stuff, I can tell you your name, ISP, phone # and address in a matter of minutes, just because YOU cannot do something does not mean we cannot either.  As for my punctuation, sorry about that, i guess i cannot work for the FBI with poor grammar!  I am not going to PM you at all!  I am not looking for YOUR creditability at all!!!  HOW DARE YOU!  Maybe i should do a backround check on you!  Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!  I was only trying to help, and now i am under the microscope!  DON'T ASK I AM NOT HELPING, I will get my money back and deal with HARPAL my way!

Also from now on everyone should be subject to a backround check BEFORE they trade with anyone!!!

Oh yeah and if your grammar and punctuation suck, you are a loser who cannot hold a job!!

I am not nor will i EVER post my badge number here or on the web, but i can assure you i have one.

Also as for the tracing of the IP address' leapinlew you got a lot to learn!  Just because you get to the front of the ISP does not mean the trace stops! As an IT specialist, i would think you know that!

Well Good luck everyone with HARPAL

MODS please put this thread in POST HELL!
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: markrvp on March 17, 2006, 05:51:38 pm
I don't have a dog in this fight.  I don't have a point, really.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: NinjaEpisode on March 17, 2006, 05:52:51 pm
Wait a minute, i DO NOT nor WILL NOT do backround checks on everybody i deal with that is just stupid, everyone in this world is not a crook.  I do nto really care if you believe me or not like i said I DO NOT need to prove myself.  And if you are an IT guy as you say, then maybe you are not up to date on your stuff, I can tell you your name, ISP, phone # and address in a matter of minutes, just because YOU cannot do something does not mean we cannot either.  As for my punctuation, sorry about that, i guess i cannot work for the FBI with poor grammar!  I am not going to PM you at all!  I am not looking for YOUR creditability at all!!!  HOW DARE YOU!  Maybe i should do a backround check on you!  Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!  I was only trying to help, and now i am under the microscope!  DON'T ASK I AM NOT HELPING, I will get my money back and deal with HARPAL my way!

Also from now on everyone should be subject to a backround check BEFORE they trade with anyone!!!

Oh yeah and if your grammar and punctuation suck, you are a loser who cannot hold a job!!

I am not nor will i EVER post my badge number here or on the web, but i can assure you i have one.

Also as for the tracing of the IP address' leapinlew you got a lot to learn!  Just because you get to the front of the ISP does not mean the trace stops! As an IT specialist, i would think you know that!

Well Good luck everyone with HARPAL

MODS please put this thread in POST HELL!

Tell ya what Ken, you send me my current IP, my home address and my full name via PM and I'll vouge for you.

Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: vader on March 17, 2006, 06:17:11 pm
I"m gonna throw my 2 cents in here which isn't worth a penny.  There was a internet fraud sting that was set up about 3 yrs ago between DTV and the FBI.  I remember the FBI having to subpoena the ISP to get the information on the ISP customers.  If the FBI had the technology to circumvent the ISP's systems, why would they need to go through the ISP.  Now that was then and this now and thing could have very well changed alot, I'm just thinking out loud.

Tim
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Scott84 on March 17, 2006, 06:22:11 pm
They needed to sobpeona them because they needed to make sure that they got the information legally.... so the evidence wouldnt be thrown out...

But i wouldnt be surprised if the FBI already had all that information before... they just needed to follow the legal process...
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: vader on March 17, 2006, 06:43:26 pm
I can possibly see it if the person's were on static ip's, but the simple fact is majority of people are on dynamic IP's that change constantly.

Tim
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 17, 2006, 07:20:53 pm
I can possibly see it if the person's were on static ip's, but the simple fact is majority of people are on dynamic IP's that change constantly.

Tim

Your right Tim. I wish Osama had an IP address.

The fact of the matter is it appears Harpal has done a dirty deed. No matter what it takes - I hope he gets whats coming to him.

Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: NinjaEpisode on March 17, 2006, 07:34:17 pm
Ken claims he doesn't need me to vouge for him.

Oh well, I offered.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: SirPeale on March 17, 2006, 08:30:07 pm
Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!

You're pulling out because of the comments of *one guy?*

Who cares what people think.  I'm assuming you joined the FBI because you felt a need to do the right thing, right?  It seems that doing the right thing in this case is helping those who got burned by Harpal.  Leaving the others to twist in the wind because one guy said some stuff seems...I dunno...wrong.

It's not far fetched to think that law enforcement officials have a love of arcadey goodness too.  Just recently I was talking (online) to someone I know is a cop, and they were telling me that he'd received one of those 'you sell object for $100, I send you $5000, send me the rest' scams.  He had the guy send it to his work.  Little does the guy know that his work is the police station!  So if the scammer ever shows up at his work, he's in for a rude shock.   :o

As for finding a guy from just his IP...sure, it's possible.  Combination of social engineering and/or the law can get you that info.  Get the IP, find out what ISP has that block.  Subpoena them to find who had that IP at that particular time.  Get their billing records.  Viola.

Of course, that isn't perfect; as stated before, good luck getting that info from China or the like.

Last I knew, eBay - though they shouldn't - has given info out freely in the past, without a warrant or subpoena.  Warrants aren't difficult to get though, esp. with probable cause.

So to sum up...back off, let Ken do his job, and that's it. 
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 17, 2006, 08:34:58 pm
Disclaimer note:  I am a skeptic at heart.  I tend to disbelieve anything and everything I hear that goes beyond the norm.  This is not meant to be insulting to you.  It's just what I've picked up, and to show you the reason for everyone else's skepticism.

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I have a friend who works for the FBI, and i am going to have him do some checking too!

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This really pi$$es me off as i don't have a lot of "extra" cash floating around

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Hey ponyboy, can you get me that phone number you have for him?  Anything like that will help out in tracking him down!

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I work for the FBI so i have connections,

The first and fourth statements kind of clash with each other.  Note I say kind of.  The first statement may have been a way to avoid coming out and saying you were with the FBI.  Why you "admitted" being employed there later is strange.

The second statement...the government?  Man, you gotta have more cash than I do floating around. ;D

The third statement is the kicker.  Why did you need ponyboy's help at the time?

Now there are instances in the thread where you do SOUND like a government employee.  They are aplenty.  But then there are instances where you sound like a regular old person.

The speed at which things are being accomplished suggest you speak the truth.

Of course, no offense to leapinlew, but just because you are unaware of something doesn't make it non-existant.  I think it's pretty common knowledge that the government has access to technologies and such that aren't available to the general public or even businesses. 8)  This may be one instance.

Not taking up ninjaepisode on his offer doesn't speak well for you either.

I guess the one thing for me that stands out is the fact that if you are FBI, you weren't the least bit hesitant before dishing out what must've been a large sum of cash to a complete stranger in another country claiming to have extremely reduced prices on products.  This may be a friendly community, but it's not perfect. :-\

I am on the fence on whether to believe you or not.  Ultimately, I suppose my opinion really doesn't matter, since I'm not involved in this other than this post.  So I won't say any more on the matter.

And heck, if others are skeptical, there's no reason to come out of the woodwork and calling him out on it.  And yes, I'm aware of the irony of my post.

Gotta say harpal really went out on a limb.  Even so much as to post a thread about being robbed to keep people off his back for just a little longer.

Good luck to all who've been screwed. :police:
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Harry Potter on March 17, 2006, 09:16:36 pm
Wait a minute, i DO NOT nor WILL NOT do backround checks on everybody i deal with that is just stupid, everyone in this world is not a crook.  I do nto really care if you believe me or not like i said I DO NOT need to prove myself.  And if you are an IT guy as you say, then maybe you are not up to date on your stuff, I can tell you your name, ISP, phone # and address in a matter of minutes, just because YOU cannot do something does not mean we cannot either.  As for my punctuation, sorry about that, i guess i cannot work for the FBI with poor grammar!  I am not going to PM you at all!  I am not looking for YOUR creditability at all!!!  HOW DARE YOU!  Maybe i should do a backround check on you!  Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!  I was only trying to help, and now i am under the microscope!  DON'T ASK I AM NOT HELPING, I will get my money back and deal with HARPAL my way!
Is it me or does this strike anyone else as a temper tantrum?  ???

Seriously, just doesn't seem like the wrtitings of a grown man.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: JackTucky on March 17, 2006, 10:29:30 pm
kenmelk works for the FBI

Harpal had a warehouse full of Xbox 360's that were stolen

Stingray doesn't wear funny hats

Markrvp doesn't complain too much about his wife

MissionControl isn't ugly.

These are the facts, and this is how it is.

Jacktucky
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 10:37:29 pm
Ok, for the record, Yes i got VERY upset in the above posts, the reason being, I am VERY PROUD of working for this Country, and to have anyone question that is just plain insulting to me.  I am not some 12 yearold kid, I am a 35 year old man, and i offered to help, i told everyone here that i do not like letting people know where i work for these EXACT reasons.  Everyone thinks that because i work for the FBI, I should not get burned because i should do backround checks, or that we do not need help in some situations.  I mean i am human i am not SUPERMAN (except to my kids).  Yeah i work for the FBI, yeah i love old video games, even MAME which skirts the borders of leagality, i even SPEED on the highway!  I wanted the post put in POST HELL because it is now a "QUESTION KENMELK" thread and not the HARPAL thread it started out as.  I am still going to do what i feel is right in thie situation and do what i can, i am just not going todo it in the forums anymore.  I asked for Ponyboy to give me HARPALS phone number for a few different reasons, I had 1 number HARPAL had given me and i spoke to with, i wanted to see if the numbers were the same, AT THAT TIME I did not know how many people were invloved here so i asked for help, like anyone would have.  As for having extra cash while working for the government, like i said i work for the FBI because i LOVE it and LOVE THIS COUNTRY, believe me if i was working for the money, i would be working elsewhere.  You all need to know that there are things the private sector does not have or know, this however does not mean it does not exist.  Please excuse me for getting angry, like i said to question my motives, and my employment was just plain hurtful to me as i am VERY PROUD to do what i do for thei Country.

Thank you,
Ken
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: JackTucky on March 17, 2006, 10:48:37 pm
Off to homeroom now

Stingray is waiting for you

Jacktucky
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: JackTucky on March 17, 2006, 10:49:20 pm
You couldn't spell CAT if I spotted you the C and the T

Jacktucky
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on March 18, 2006, 01:51:05 pm

Are you trained in tactics?


Certainly wasn't trained in spelling, grammar, or keeping cool under the slightest pressure, that much I know. ;D

You couldn't spell CAT if I spotted you the C and the T

Jacktucky

.....and I whispered "A" in your ear ;D


We don't CARE who you work for, we just want some justice, so you don't need to go through all the histrionics you seem to think are needed.  We get what you're saying in spite of the poor wording, spelling, and syntax.  It's loud and clear.

An hey, even the FBI need their soda machines stocked or the bathrooms cleaned, right?  We're just saying that we'd use a different yardstick for saying we work "for" the FBI.

Now stop your hissy fit.  You government agents are supposed to be better trained than this. ;)

Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Harpal on March 18, 2006, 09:56:36 pm
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS ON, ---smurfing--- HELL, THERE IS A CASE PENDING AGAINSTME IN THE UK, HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING OR TAKING DRUGS....
PLUS I HAVE A FEW MATES IN THE POLICE SO I WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF THERE IS A CASE AGAINST ME, YOU GUYS DO LOVE TO MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHING, AND OVER WHAT A FEW MISERLY DOLLARS, AND WHATS THIS MY NUMBER BEEN DISCONECTED, ---smurfing--- HELL ARE YOU FELLING ALRIGHT, THATS MY BUSINESS NUMBER, YOU THINK OVER YOU I WILL CHANGE MY ENTIRE ADDRESS AND NUMBERS ON ALL MY BUSINESSES....
I SWEAR YOU GUYS ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID, 40YR STILL ACTING LIKE LITTLE KIDS, GET ALL EXITED OVER NOTHING....
BLOODY FOOLS...
GUESS I WILL HAVE TO FAX PAYPAL UR INVOICE....
UNLESS YOU SAY SORRY..
E WILL  SEE WHO HAS THE LAST LAUGH""""
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: mccoy178 on March 18, 2006, 10:50:07 pm
Oh boy, this is gonna get good.  Hey, still have any of the xbox360's lying around?! ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 18, 2006, 11:10:57 pm
Goodness, lay off the caps lock.  How can you live in the UK, yet still have such abominable English skills?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 18, 2006, 11:14:54 pm
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Oh boy, this is gonna get good.

Agreed.  I don't think anything on TV is going to even come relatively close in the entertainment sector of what's going to happen here.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: missioncontrol on March 18, 2006, 11:15:04 pm
popcorn.... peanuts.... crackerjacks...

/me pulls up a chair... man this is going to be very interesting


Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 18, 2006, 11:30:40 pm
(http://www.atomic-train.com/images/smilies/popcorn2.gif)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Hoopz on March 18, 2006, 11:38:46 pm
Andy vs RandyT, old news.

Christian vs RandyT, yesterday's news.

Harpal vs everyone, priceless.   ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: missioncontrol on March 18, 2006, 11:52:22 pm
(http://www.atomic-train.com/images/smilies/popcorn2.gif)

ha ha I love that smilie........

Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: GGKoul on March 18, 2006, 11:52:30 pm
Please stop defecting the fact that people gave you money and have yet to receive the product you promised...

So when can people expect a refund?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on March 19, 2006, 01:03:45 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: missioncontrol on March 19, 2006, 03:15:46 am
ha ha best use of the Jerry smilie yet....

way to go Drew +fu to you
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Goz on March 19, 2006, 03:56:11 am
/me orders a round of beers for everybody waiting.....
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: USSEnterprise on March 19, 2006, 04:18:55 am
Just watching will be fun :D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: spriggy on March 19, 2006, 04:46:08 am
.....YOU GUYS DO LOVE TO MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHING, AND OVER WHAT A FEW MISERLY DOLLARS......

MMMM ???    Comments like that won't help!  ???
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Bones on March 19, 2006, 05:02:09 am
popcorn.... peanuts.... crackerjacks...

/me pulls up a chair... man this is going to be very interesting
I will bring the beer. Just save me a good spot.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Harry Potter on March 19, 2006, 05:21:22 am
Am I late for the parteee.  :)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Franco on March 19, 2006, 05:25:58 am
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

There is more fun going off in EE too.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51691.0
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: divemaster127 on March 19, 2006, 11:06:59 am
I have no money at stake but if you are holding these people's money & you have not delivered the product you are in wrong, these people are the customer. You need to tell them are you sorry & refund their money right now if you are legit...
And if you wanted to do business in the future & are legit I would think your customers would be your number one worry
just my 2 cents
dm
& are far as being protected by paypal, you sir will find your account frozen very soon this is illegal
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on March 19, 2006, 12:51:49 pm
(http://www.atomic-train.com/images/smilies/popcorn2.gif)
::munch munch slurrrp::
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: nullb0y on March 19, 2006, 01:04:50 pm

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***
hmm intresting... this address doesnt pell up on googl earth nor yahoo maps
it seems the road exists but no 102 address hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: missioncontrol on March 19, 2006, 01:49:05 pm

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***
hmm intresting... this address doesnt pell up on googl earth nor yahoo maps
it seems the road exists but no 102 address hmmmmmm

did you spell the numbers right....

also I think the use the metric system over there so you may have to convert them....
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 19, 2006, 02:33:11 pm
Why is everyone in a tizzy?

kenmelk and the FBI are on the case. I'm sure everyone will get their money and Harpal will be in Guantanamo soon.

Judging by grammar and creative use of the caps lock key, I conclude that Harpal and Kenmelk are the same person. Alter egos with Kenmelk being Bruce Banner and Harpal being The Hulk. In fact...

Heres a pic of his latest cabinet, if you look real close - you can see a pile of xbox 360's in the corner

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47324.0;attach=22281;image)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: versapak on March 19, 2006, 02:52:39 pm
I gotta say that even if Harpal is legit, that it was a complete crap move to go on vacation, right after having "been robbed", and without communicating it with his customers.

Yeah, maybe a measly couple hundred dollars is nothing to him, but if I send that to someone, it sure as heck isn't pocket change to me.

Even if he were to have actually shipped these products, I would recommend him as a bad trader, just for being an ass with no care what-so-ever for his customers.


Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: GGKoul on March 19, 2006, 02:54:15 pm

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***
hmm intresting... this address doesnt pell up on googl earth nor yahoo maps
it seems the road exists but no 102 address hmmmmmm

did you spell the numbers right....

also I think the use the metric system over there so you may have to convert them....


On google maps just type in the postal code... UB1 1JL
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on March 19, 2006, 03:03:22 pm
I have things to say outside of this "keep it clean" thread that have been said in the Post-hell express train of another thread.

Suffice it to say, for whatever reason, this comment WILL be clean.

You KNEW you were going on holiday, and you KNEW you had items in transit at the time, and others WOULD be wondering what was happening to their items since the time YOU claimed you were ROBBED.


WHY did you not think TWICE about telling us you were robbed and would we help you, but you DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST REASON to believe you should notify us that you're going on a 2 week vacation?


You have exhibited no reason to believe you know how to deal with CUSTOMERS, why should they apologize for not knowing how to deal with YOU?  Save your martyrdom for something that matters and make this situation right with all who've given you money, otherwise, don't respond and prove everyone's charges right.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: SOAPboy on March 19, 2006, 06:43:53 pm
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS ON, ---smurfing--- HELL, THERE IS A CASE PENDING AGAINSTME IN THE UK, HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING OR TAKING DRUGS....
PLUS I HAVE A FEW MATES IN THE POLICE SO I WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF THERE IS A CASE AGAINST ME, YOU GUYS DO LOVE TO MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHING, AND OVER WHAT A FEW MISERLY DOLLARS, AND WHATS THIS MY NUMBER BEEN DISCONECTED, ---smurfing--- HELL ARE YOU FELLING ALRIGHT, THATS MY BUSINESS NUMBER, YOU THINK OVER YOU I WILL CHANGE MY ENTIRE ADDRESS AND NUMBERS ON ALL MY BUSINESSES....
I SWEAR YOU GUYS ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID, 40YR STILL ACTING LIKE LITTLE KIDS, GET ALL EXITED OVER NOTHING....
BLOODY FOOLS...
GUESS I WILL HAVE TO FAX PAYPAL UR INVOICE....
UNLESS YOU SAY SORRY..
E WILL  SEE WHO HAS THE LAST LAUGH""""

Your "cell" has been off for a while.. well before FBI boy here started his thing.. Dont blame us for that, the mobile number flat out never worked as far as i can tell..
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 19, 2006, 07:16:34 pm
One word...


PRESSURE...
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 19, 2006, 07:18:01 pm
leapinlew, I am glad i am the Bruce Banner side of that!  And i can ASSURE you that we are NOT the same in anyway.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on March 19, 2006, 09:10:34 pm
One word...


PRESSURE...

Kinda like a backed-up terlet, hey Alice?

Kudos on not making any spelling or grammar mistakes ;)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Harry Potter on March 19, 2006, 09:38:32 pm
Hehe. Did Ken download a James Bond script prior to posting here?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: GGKoul on March 20, 2006, 10:55:19 am
So has anyone gotten a refund from him yet?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: SOAPboy on March 20, 2006, 11:45:51 am
So has anyone gotten a refund from him yet?

Nope..

Harpal.. im waiting..  ::)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Goz on March 20, 2006, 12:43:43 pm
So has anyone gotten a refund from him yet?

Nope..

Harpal.. im waiting..  ::)

Are you going to appologize to him? That seems to be his requirement.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: mccoy178 on March 20, 2006, 03:23:10 pm
Soapboy, you should've traded him shoes.  How many pairs would that be?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 20, 2006, 04:53:27 pm
Hey i Will appologize to HARPAL...


I am sorry your Momma dropped you on your head a few times,

I am sorry you have no morals,

I am sorry you are a D$#K!!!!!!


Now I appologized, i want my money back!!
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 20, 2006, 05:13:58 pm
It may be a loophole, but you've met the requirements!
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 20, 2006, 05:27:45 pm
Hey i just thought of something, i appologized 3 times, for 3 different offenses, that means i should get back 3 people money right???

Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 20, 2006, 05:29:02 pm
Just reminding others there is more to this in another thread.

Here is it:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51691.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51691.0)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: rwhip41 on March 21, 2006, 03:15:05 pm
mmpphh!! uurrrggg!!  Must...resi...st...fight it...aarrgggggg....

BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Leapinlew...please refrain the use of the word, "then", when "than" is the correct verbiage.

There...I said it...whew!!

Then again, I try not to berate grammar or spelling because I am a horrible typist and my grammar ain't isn't too good exactly commendable these days.

No disrespect meant, leapin, as I highly value your input on this board.

Aahhhh....therepy.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 21, 2006, 03:56:30 pm
mmpphh!! uurrrggg!!  Must...resi...st...fight it...aarrgggggg....

BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Leapinlew...please refrain the use of the word, "then", when "than" is the correct verbiage.

There...I said it...whew!!

Then again, I try not to berate grammar or spelling because I am a horrible typist and my grammar ain't isn't too good exactly commendable these days.

No disrespect meant, leapin, as I highly value your input on this board.

Aahhhh....therepy.

consider myself corrected. Although, I can gaurantee you nothing in the future. That is such a minor nuance - you have to admit that to be a pet peeve of yours.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 21, 2006, 05:45:59 pm
therApy ;D

I think nothing will occur.  Let us all go back to our lives.

Wait...did we have lives before this?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: markrvp on March 21, 2006, 06:09:20 pm
mmpphh!! uurrrggg!!  Must...resi...st...fight it...aarrgggggg....

BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Leapinlew...please refrain the use of the word, "then", when "than" is the correct verbiage.

There...I said it...whew!!

Then again, I try not to berate grammar or spelling because I am a horrible typist and my grammar ain't isn't too good exactly commendable these days.

No disrespect meant, leapin, as I highly value your input on this board.

Aahhhh....therepy.

consider myself corrected. Although, I can gaurantee you nothing in the future. That is such a minor nuance - you have to admit that to be a pet peeve of yours.


Yeah, screw English.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: USSEnterprise on March 21, 2006, 06:35:45 pm
Hey i Will appologize to HARPAL...


I am sorry your Momma dropped you on your head a few times,

I am sorry you have no morals,

I am sorry you are a D$#K!!!!!!


Now I appologized, i want my money back!!

Why did you censor the word "dork"?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: mccoy178 on March 21, 2006, 07:01:07 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: rwhip41 on March 21, 2006, 08:58:00 pm
Quote
That is such a minor nuance - you have to admit that to be a pet peeve of yours.

[blush] yeah...  ;D

Now...I never said I was the best at spelling and/or grammar, so I try to refrain from calling out others on it...no matter how poor it is. It does lose some cred though. So...as for me...it won't hapin happon happen again. Now, to go get some therepy therapy.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: missioncontrol on March 21, 2006, 10:32:31 pm
so what you guys got nothing better to do than make grammer comments....hell if your that bored follow my posts I'll give you plenty of grammer that needs fixin
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 21, 2006, 11:06:01 pm
Like I had stated earlier, I have patiently waited over 6 weeks, almost over 7 weeks now, still no response....

I will never apologize to anyone that takes my hard earned money and runs !!!!!


I will get my money back from the credit card company because they are legit unlike this low life piece of tr@sh !!!!
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: M3talhead on March 22, 2006, 02:22:49 pm
Hey i Will appologize to HARPAL...


I am sorry your Momma dropped you on your head a few times,

I am sorry you have no morals,

I am sorry you are a D$#K!!!!!!


Now I appologized, i want my money back!!

Why did you censor the word "dork"?

dork Pronunciation (d
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 22, 2006, 05:36:37 pm
AHHH, it was not DORK...



It was DI@K!


Or HARPAL if you will
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 22, 2006, 06:51:35 pm
so what you guys got nothing better to do than make grammer comments....hell if your that bored follow my posts I'll give you plenty of grammer that needs fixin

Finally, someone gave me permission.  Here we go:

So what?  You guys have nothing better to do than comment on others' grammar mistakes?  (This wasn't really incorrect grammar, it just sounds better this way.  More educated.) :) Hell, if you're that bored, follow my posts.   I'll give you plenty of grammar that needs fixing.

Thanks, missioncontrol...that REALLY hit the spot! ;D :D

Now I'll just recheck all that and make sure I don't look like an imbecile for making a mistake myself.  Looks okay...
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: tommy on March 22, 2006, 10:52:37 pm
I rememebr someone who looks alot like myself starting a bad traders list some many monthes ago.... i seemed to have gotten all the "it will be bad for the forum commets" but now...
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: missioncontrol on March 22, 2006, 11:11:03 pm
so what you guys got nothing better to do than make grammer comments....hell if your that bored follow my posts I'll give you plenty of grammer that needs fixin

Finally, someone gave me permission.  Here we go:

So what?  You guys have nothing better to do than comment on others' grammar mistakes?  (This wasn't really incorrect grammar, it just sounds better this way.  More educated.) :) Hell, if you're that bored, follow my posts.   I'll give you plenty of grammar that needs fixing.

Thanks, missioncontrol...that REALLY hit the spot! ;D :D

Now I'll just recheck all that and make sure I don't look like an imbecile for making a mistake myself.  Looks okay...


I hope you know your fighing a losing battle.... mark almost had to give up his day job trying to fix my grammar mistakes
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: RayB on March 24, 2006, 11:55:53 am
Heh. This was entertaining. I have a couple comments:

1. Paypal has a dispute system. If the seller can't prove an item was shipped, Paypal WILL refund your money. So anyone here who's affected by this seller, if you haven't filed a dispute yet, you're a dumbass. If you all have filed it, then don't worry. You'll get your money. Just takes a couple weeks.

2. The FBI also employs janitors.

 ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: shardian on March 24, 2006, 01:01:02 pm
I have a few comments too:

After you have went the paypal route as far as it will go, call your cc company and tell them the story. Odds are, they will give you your money back (they did for me, no questions asked. :)) If you used bank pay, they might work with you, but I have no experience with that.
Complaining on here and threatening this guy thru cyber-space will only make him laugh harder.

And another comment on the FBI thing: I don't believe the FBI would have juristiction on some UK bloke, and I also don't think they would spend their resources on a small time scammer.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on March 24, 2006, 02:47:18 pm
I don't believe the FBI would have juristiction on some UK bloke, and I also don't think they would spend their resources on a small time scammer.

Hey Shardian, Whats up? Tell me how our government, the same government that spends $640 for a toilet seat, would spend their resources.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: kenmelk on March 24, 2006, 04:01:46 pm
I have talked to PAYPAL and EBAY and i have also posted on some forums he is on reguarding him and his actions.

He is just a  :censored:  :lame: :soapbox: IDIOT!!


No resources were harmed in this thread...

and it is not a juristictional issue, as the UK Bobbies are involved,
 
there is such a thing a PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.


Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on March 24, 2006, 05:21:53 pm
Quote
I hope you know your fighing a losing battle....

Yes, I'm aware of that.  It was still fun to do it.  Normally, people just point out grammar errors, then the original poster makes a  :lame: remark about the other making a  :spam: post about grammar, while pointing out errors the other person made while trying to correct the first person.  Follow? :dizzy:

See, this post is total  :spam:  I do like to  :blah: sometimes.

Gosh, these  :) s are getting a bunch of use already.  How did we ever live without them? :notworthy:  Did someone have a  :hissy: until we got them?

All right.  I'm done. :-X
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on March 24, 2006, 07:12:17 pm
"The non-janitors and guys who don't stock the soda machines have to have a college degree to get in the FBI, don't they?"

I don't quite know why, but that question keeps popping into my head often while reading all the Harpal threads. 

I also like the addition of these new smilies.  I've found two that seem to go hand in hand as well for these threads....see for yourself:

FBI= :notworthy: ::)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: nullb0y on April 03, 2006, 12:29:04 am

102 WEST END ROAD,SOUTHALL,MIDDLESEX,UB1 1JL,ENGLAND.


did anyone google map or earth the address?

*** FF sits back and munches his popcorn ***
hmm intresting... this address doesnt pell up on googl earth nor yahoo maps
it seems the road exists but no 102 address hmmmmmm

did you spell the numbers right....

also I think the use the metric system over there so you may have to convert them....


On google maps just type in the postal code... UB1 1JL

ok thanks im an idiot lol anyways seems thats not a warehouse just a house heres the google world pic
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: whatzcrackn on April 03, 2006, 05:47:07 am
The pic is too much!!!  I am rolling. 

 :laugh2:
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: whatzcrackn on April 03, 2006, 05:50:43 am
Who is this guy Harpal?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on April 03, 2006, 11:31:21 am
read the threads ths one and "shame" in everything else he conned a bunch of people

now looking is that a duplex? or aq condo or something two colors of shingles might be.....
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Mr-Megalo on June 16, 2006, 08:34:06 am
just a heads up, isnt harpal called acidforums on eBay
appears hes selling some cabs
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KONAMI-WINDING-HEAT-SIT-DOWN-DRIVING-ARCADE-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ6289601055QQcategoryZ3945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on June 16, 2006, 04:21:59 pm
That auction reads way different than the typical Harpal prose. 

Someone else verify this.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: srabelpawz on June 17, 2006, 05:59:10 am
 nope that's defintely Harpal
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on June 17, 2006, 11:21:29 am
nope that's defintely Harpal

Oh, well then!  What the heck was I thinking, I coulda just asked someone to say "that's him" and that woulda been quicker!  ::)

Anybody ELSE understand what "VERIFY" means, because by that standard above, me saying that Kremmit blows goats makes it true ::)

Kremmit definitely blows goats.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: SOAPboy on June 17, 2006, 12:11:37 pm
nope that's defintely Harpal

Oh, well then!  What the heck was I thinking, I coulda just asked someone to say "that's him" and that woulda been quicker!  ::)

Anybody ELSE understand what "VERIFY" means, because by that standard above, me saying that Kremmit blows goats makes it true ::)

Kremmit definitely blows goats.

Its him

Remember, he was trying to get help wiring those monitors, and acidforums is his ebay account..
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: SOAPboy on June 17, 2006, 03:56:16 pm
FYI

I contacted the "seller"

He "assures" me that HE isnt harpal, thats his "brother"

I call ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: tommy on June 17, 2006, 05:36:06 pm
nope that's defintely Harpal

Oh, well then!  What the heck was I thinking, I coulda just asked someone to say "that's him" and that woulda been quicker!  ::)

Anybody ELSE understand what "VERIFY" means, because by that standard above, me saying that Kremmit blows goats makes it true ::)

Kremmit definitely blows goats.

HAhahahaha, sorry, had to do it.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Silver on June 17, 2006, 09:12:55 pm
I believe in some of the previous posts acidforums was "verified" by someone as Harpal, but can't remember more.

I do remember trying to help Harpal with the monitor from these Winding Heat cabs back in Feb in the thread here:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=49414.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=49414.0)

I recall he hooked up a lead and posted:

"i heard some thing go pop like a little light and it all just went off, and then i could smell some thing burnt, pls help me out and let me know what the hell i just did wrong here and his my monitor dead now...."

Which to me makes it unfair to sell these as "untested" and "only had them 2 weeks" when at least one is clearly broken by him, and had them at least 5months.

However, he may have repaired it, but from the wording "Untested - I just don't have time to set them up " ." Get a bargin" etc..etc.. I somehow doubt it.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: srabelpawz on June 23, 2006, 02:15:27 am
nope that's defintely Harpal

Oh, well then!  What the heck was I thinking, I coulda just asked someone to say "that's him" and that woulda been quicker!  ::)

Anybody ELSE understand what "VERIFY" means, because by that standard above, me saying that Kremmit blows goats makes it true ::)

Kremmit definitely blows goats.
hhmm
 did you need me to get it e-notarized or something?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: DrewKaree on June 23, 2006, 02:38:26 am
Give Webster's a gander sometime.  You might be surprised to know what "verify" means. 

Too bad you weren't called to the stand in the OJ case.  You coulda "verified" that he didn't do it.

You can't seriously be that obtuse.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: srabelpawz on June 23, 2006, 09:32:56 am
Give Webster's a gander sometime.  You might be surprised to know what "verify" means. 

Too bad you weren't called to the stand in the OJ case.  You coulda "verified" that he didn't do it.

You can't seriously be that obtuse.
  i bow to your level of nerdism  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: mmarx82 on September 27, 2006, 05:18:09 pm
I know this is like a really old thread I'm replying to, but I was wondering if everyone got their money back and what happened with kenmelk's FBI investigation against Harpal?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on September 27, 2006, 05:38:50 pm
I know this is like a really old thread I'm replying to, but I was wondering if everyone got their money back and what happened with kenmelk's FBI investigation against Harpal?

hahaha fbi investigation hahahaha thats so funny
 :troll: :troll: :troll: :troll:

if u belived he was a fbi agent or not harpal your very gullible
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: mmarx82 on September 28, 2006, 08:18:58 am

Well nobody did an FBI investigation proving that he was harpal, did they?

kenmelk still visits the board

See his profile: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8246 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8246)

Then reveiw his last posts. Does this look like harpal to you?????

Now back to my question....
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on September 28, 2006, 08:12:29 pm
its a joke
jeeze chill
there was no fbi investigation im preety shure
lets let this old thread die lol

anyways posts claiming to not be someone do not prove your not lol ;)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on September 29, 2006, 12:13:40 am
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mean-Machine-Hawk-Motorbike-L-K-GRAB-A-BARGAIN_W0QQitemZ120034393119QQihZ002QQcategoryZ575QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mean-Machine-Hawk-Motorbike-L-K-GRAB-A-BARGAIN_W0QQitemZ120034393119QQihZ002QQcategoryZ575QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Stingray on September 29, 2006, 09:47:04 am
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mean-Machine-Hawk-Motorbike-L-K-GRAB-A-BARGAIN_W0QQitemZ120034393119QQihZ002QQcategoryZ575QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mean-Machine-Hawk-Motorbike-L-K-GRAB-A-BARGAIN_W0QQitemZ120034393119QQihZ002QQcategoryZ575QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Is that seller actually Harpal?

-S
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: JackTucky on September 29, 2006, 10:20:05 am
Pretty sure his other username was acidforums.

Jacktucky
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: leapinlew on September 29, 2006, 10:29:37 am
His replys to negative feedback are funny and Harpalesk

!!! they said the item was new but thay are a load of crap AVOID THIS SELLER!!!
  Buyer   kim2560( 103)
no longer a registered user    15-Mar-06 19:17  9101017739 
 Reply by acidforums: LEARNT MY LESSON NOT TO SELL TO BLIND BATS, AVOID AT ALL COST..BLOODY LOOSER!!!!

item not sent this was sold without a reserve and paid through paypal not happy
  Buyer   8893william( 6 )    13-Mar-06 11:10  6853148867 
 Reply by acidforums: DUMB F**K WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO SEND YOU A BROKEN ITEM.......BLOODY LOSER....
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: vader on September 29, 2006, 11:34:45 am

Well nobody did an FBI investigation proving that he was harpal, did they?

kenmelk still visits the board

See his profile: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8246 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8246)

Then reveiw his last posts. Does this look like harpal to you?????

Now back to my question....

Not sticking up for anyone here, but I did sell Ken a trackball about a year ago and he paid promptly and I shipped it to a US address ....    not a UK one
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: quarterback on September 29, 2006, 04:07:08 pm
Not sticking up for anyone here, but I did sell Ken a trackball about a year ago and he paid promptly and I shipped it to a US address ....    not a UK one

Did the address happen to be:

 J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001


 ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on September 29, 2006, 05:34:56 pm
dude lets all inflate the bids on that auction to millions with bs accounts ^_-
oh wait buy it nows...
his feedback is funny as hell
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: Kremmit on September 29, 2006, 09:06:51 pm
This may be off topic, but has anybody seen my goat?
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: horseboy on September 29, 2006, 09:33:20 pm
Stingray had it, but I don't think you'll be wanting it back.
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: nullb0y on October 01, 2006, 11:19:35 pm
mmm goat wait never mind
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: hypernova on October 02, 2006, 07:42:49 pm
No Drew, it doesn't work that way.  (Yeah, I know this is old.)

Kremmit does blow goats.

See, NOW it's verified.  Someone else other than you had to verify it. ;D
Title: Re: Bad Trader Harpal - (split from: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean)
Post by: NegativeStop on October 04, 2006, 10:34:55 am
Just so everyone knows....since I once got ripped off using PayPal...once you register a complaint DO NOT REMOVE IT even if the person contacts you!!!  PayPal only lets you file a complaint once and if you remove it you can not file it again.  I learned this the hard way.  Here is the story (if you care) I purchased something off E-Bay, the seller contacted me that I won, so I paid PayPal, the seller then just did not send the item, I tried to contact him, then I filed a complaint and he contacted me immediately saying how he sent the item and blah blah blah and he would work with me to resolve the issue as long as I removed the complaint.  As soon as I removed the complaint he would not contact me at all.  So to get my money back I had to file a complaint with my bank and finally I got my money.

NS