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Title: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Crony on January 29, 2006, 07:34:30 pm
It seemd as though someone has to die to acquire a couple adaptoid cables to get my N64 controllers to USB in my MAME cab. What else can I use?
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: mccoy178 on January 29, 2006, 08:11:49 pm
Ever heard of Linksang?  Try them.  I bought mine that were also for PS2 for $13 bucks a pop.  No deaths here.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Flinkly on January 29, 2006, 08:39:13 pm
they don't support alot though.  no digital if i remember right, so get used to playing your games the way they weren't ment to be played.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on January 29, 2006, 08:49:45 pm
http://www.jandaman.com/games.mvc?p=n64psxusb&Category_code=N64 (http://www.jandaman.com/games.mvc?p=n64psxusb&Category_code=N64)
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Crony on January 30, 2006, 07:46:08 am
It says the N64/PSX USB Adapter will allow only 1 player. Will 2 of these allow you to play 2 player games?
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on January 30, 2006, 10:12:49 am
It says the N64/PSX USB Adapter will allow only 1 player. Will 2 of these allow you to play 2 player games?

No Idea. Check google for reviews or something
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Dustin Mustangs on January 30, 2006, 12:54:17 pm
From what I understand (hear-say only) the ones linked above really don't work very well and it doesn't seem to be clear weather you can use more then one at a time.  I really, really want to be able to hook up 4 n64 controllers to my pc but it doesn't look like it's possible with what the market is offering right now.  I guess those adaptoids are available every once in a while new, but man they must sell out fast.  I think for right now I am going to settle for two n64 controllers hooked up like this (http://arcadecontrols.com/Mirrors/emulatronia/n64pad/) along with  two ps2 controllers to make 4.  Back in the day we always used to play that whenever someone wins they could snag which ever controller they wanted for the next game anyways so now I guess it will just be little more of an advantage.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on January 30, 2006, 04:01:28 pm
I regret every day that i didnt buy Adaptoids when they were being sold for $10 a pop....

Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on January 30, 2006, 06:00:23 pm
I found a site that still sells them.

http://www.ztnetstore.com/product_info.php/products_id/38 (http://www.ztnetstore.com/product_info.php/products_id/38)

$30 US + Shipping is like $45 CDN...

too rich for my blood.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Kremmit on January 30, 2006, 06:04:00 pm
You forgot to see if they actually had any in stock.  They don't.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on January 30, 2006, 07:49:12 pm
I emailed them.

They said they do.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: DF on January 31, 2006, 07:39:36 pm
Makes me happy I bought an extra one when I found out they were going to be discontinued
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Kremmit on February 01, 2006, 02:44:25 am
I emailed them.

They said they do.

Ooohh!  Buy them fast if you want them, then.  They don't ever last long when they do a run.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on February 01, 2006, 08:09:08 am
I asked them how to order since it wouldnt let me, and now they are telling me they dont?

Someone else try!

Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: DF on February 01, 2006, 08:28:26 am
There is one up on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/N64-Adaptoid-N64-to-USB-Converter_W0QQitemZ8255575202QQcategoryZ21200QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem). Crazy price already though.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on February 01, 2006, 09:04:35 am
If its sealed, then why does he have it pictured on the table.

That doesnt even look like the real packaging. from what i remember.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: J-Rod on February 01, 2006, 12:21:48 pm
I must be lucky, I got mine from Jandaman. I paid too much, but it works great. I knew I'd have a problem trying to play N64 with a normal gamepad.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Dagg on February 01, 2006, 01:51:39 pm
I bought 4 of the ones linked above and they work great.  I also can verify the work fine in 2player (WCW vs NWO :) )However it really depends on what shape your N64 controller is in.  I had 1 stored neatly in a box that works fine, the other I dug out of a bag of junk that I recently moved from house to another doesnt.  I dont think its the adaptors fault  (it used to work beofer i moved) but rather the calibration on the analog stick, which makes setting up the device difficult as it jumps around and goes haywire in the setup process.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on February 22, 2006, 11:29:43 am
I purchased two of those ps2/N64 to USB converters, and neither of them will work with ANY of my (4) N64 controllers.  These are all 1st party, Nintendo made controllers & the WinXP calibration screen is unusable 50% of the time I plug the adapter in.  Even when I CAN calibrate it ok, the 4 axis are not stable enough to successfully configure the emulators themselves.

i.e. DON'T purchase this.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on February 22, 2006, 11:47:46 am
Thats too bad....

I guess there really isnt a solution for b64 emulation anymore at a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Extreme8 on February 22, 2006, 11:52:39 am
I just received the 2 I purchased from Jandaman as linked above and they work great (without rumble of course).
I picked up 2 original grey N64 controllers off Ebay (different sellers) and they work without a hitch. Showed up in Windows XP, calibrated fine, assigned controls in PJ64, played 2 player games with no additional hassles.
I also connected a couple original PS controllers to them and played games in ePSXe with no problems.

For me it worked out well, but as always, your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on February 22, 2006, 12:17:43 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Adaptoid-Brand-New-N64-to-PC-USB-adapter_W0QQitemZ8261554182QQcategoryZ21200QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Adaptoid-Brand-New-N64-to-PC-USB-adapter_W0QQitemZ8261554182QQcategoryZ21200QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Its so cheap!  ::)
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on February 22, 2006, 12:34:04 pm
I did pick the cheapest auction off of ebay, & might try a different vendor.  It sounds like I should just wait for new adaptoids though.  :-\
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on February 23, 2006, 11:17:09 am
Maybe I'm just doing something wrong.

Assuming I CAN get a controller calibrated, how do I calibrate the z-axis & z-rotation since the n64 only had one analog stick?  I ask because I finally got one of the adapters & one of the n64 controllers working  enough to get a steady calibration.  The issue now is that when I try to configure p64 the z/z-rotation are registering anytime I hit the analog stick.  This would be fine, except that it registers almost as if it were digital.  i.e. full on/full off.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Flinkly on February 23, 2006, 12:14:48 pm
i don't know what you mean by z axis, since your controller should look like a gamepad and you should be calibrating the x and y axis for the analog stick.  as for the input things, i never got it to accept my analog joystick as analog, always digital, which makes it hard to play most games.  good luck though.

a gamepad hack might be the only way to revive an old n64 controller.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on February 23, 2006, 02:23:39 pm
This USB adapter looks to windows like a 4-axis gamepad, most likely because that's what it needs to support the PS2 gamepad's 2 analog sticks.

This would be fine, except that the n64 pad's SINGLE stick seems to affect the x, y, z, & z-rotational axis.  In other words, if you're looking at the winXP gamepad test screen:
- moving the analog stick a little bit upward will move the crosshairs slightly, but also send one of the z values to FULL or ZERO.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Crony on March 16, 2006, 09:23:18 pm
Has anyone tried 2 of these? They tell a good story...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Playstation-PS2-N64-USB-PC-CONTROLLER-ADAPTER-New_W0QQitemZ8267256371QQcategoryZ41059QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Playstation-PS2-N64-USB-PC-CONTROLLER-ADAPTER-New_W0QQitemZ8267256371QQcategoryZ41059QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: mccoy178 on March 16, 2006, 10:59:53 pm
That's the two I have.  I can't get the analog fast enough.  Otherwise, in Golden Eye, he looks around in slow motion.  I couldn't figure out a way to make it any faster.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on March 17, 2006, 02:17:02 pm
that one has got some fairly ---smurfy--- reviews....

adaptoid is the only solution right now.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on March 20, 2006, 04:44:19 pm
Has anyone tried 2 of these? They tell a good story...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Playstation-PS2-N64-USB-PC-CONTROLLER-ADAPTER-New_W0QQitemZ8267256371QQcategoryZ41059QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Playstation-PS2-N64-USB-PC-CONTROLLER-ADAPTER-New_W0QQitemZ8267256371QQcategoryZ41059QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


It's probably too late, but do NOT get these.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: bigjase on March 21, 2006, 04:38:14 pm
Couldn't you just get a couple of converters for the GC and use those? The button placement would be a bit different, but probably nothing you wouldn't get use to.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on March 21, 2006, 07:38:02 pm
It's VERY different.  The N64 pads had 4 c-BUTTONS, where the Gamecube's has a c-STICK.
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: bigjase on March 22, 2006, 05:24:33 pm
I know, but is it really that hard to hit a stick left instead of pushing the button?
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: BASSOFeeSH on March 22, 2006, 08:38:45 pm
It is VERY hard to hit c-Left & c-Right at the same time on a joystick.  ;)
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on March 22, 2006, 10:29:11 pm
They have Gamecube to USB?
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: bigjase on March 23, 2006, 01:35:11 pm
Yes, they do. I haven't heard many reviews on it, but I know they have it.

I never thought about having to hit the c buttons at the same time. I guess that would be a problem. Are there a lot of situations where you need to do that?
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: Scott84 on March 23, 2006, 02:11:24 pm
Considering ORCARINA OF TIME was playable on Cube, its definitly doable...

Just not for games where the c-buttons were for movement...  ALA strifing in Goldeneye
Title: Re: Adaptoid and N64 - What else can I use?
Post by: bigjase on March 23, 2006, 03:27:14 pm
I think you could probably get around that by changing up the buttons for those games. Since there are a couple different plugins for the controls on the emulator, set one up for the c stick being c buttons, and one with c stick having a and b on it, and a, b, x, and y could be the c buttons.