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Title: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: fastredpacman on December 28, 2005, 02:19:04 pm
Would it be worth it to get a Japanese PSP with 1.00 firmware? How easy would it be to run Homebrew code and games  ;) on it? Or would it be better to get a 1.5? Once I get it how would you run emus and stuff like that on it? Any help from anyone that owns one would be great! Thanks.
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pointdablame on December 28, 2005, 02:42:21 pm
you can run pretty much anything on a 1.0 directly off the memory card with no need for loaders or the like from what I've read.

It's very easy to do on 1.5 too though.  It's also easy to run emulators on 2.0, but you lose all the kernel programs, including the UMD Emulator that lets you play your "backups"  ::)
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: fastredpacman on December 28, 2005, 03:02:11 pm
So basically what youre saying........ If you had to buy one which one would you buy? I have read that if you buy a newer one and hack it that you might ruin it or that the browser might get messed up. That is the only reason I would like to get an untouched as far as the firware PSP. So which one would you get? 1.0, 1.5, or 2.0?
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pointdablame on December 28, 2005, 04:09:35 pm
So basically what youre saying........ If you had to buy one which one would you buy? I have read that if you buy a newer one and hack it that you might ruin it or that the browser might get messed up. That is the only reason I would like to get an untouched as far as the firware PSP. So which one would you get? 1.0, 1.5, or 2.0?

I'm saying it doesnt really matter.

It seems that the 1.00 is the most "wanted" by serious homebrew guys, but only because it is slightly easier to load games.  If you load your emulator on a 1.5... thats it... it works just like a 1.00 would.  The only difference is that 20 seconds that you load up the program.

The browser doesn't get "messed up" if you downgrade.  There is NO browser in 1.0 or 1.5.  The Web browser is built within the 2.0 upgrade.  You can used hacked browsers from games (Wipeout, Fired Up), but they aren't very good IMHO.  If you want a web browser that's usable (or at least MOST usable) get a PSP and update to the newest firmware.  If not, forget about the browser entirely IMO.

I've downgraded my PSP (it was a 2.0 when I got it) with no problems.  If you downgrade a lot, you risk bricking your PSP, but it is not very common.. you have to downgrade many times.  Don't worry about an "untouched" one... there is absolutely ZERO difference.

Get a 1.00 if you want it.. you'll be able to run anything, but its mostly a "hey look I have a 1.00 PSP" type of thing unless you plan on seriously hacking and coding for the PSP.

Get a 1.5 if you want to run illegal games.

Get a 2.0 if you want to have the browser and have the ability to use practically all emulators and homebrew out there minus a few that use kernel mode.

The only reason people stick with 1.5 is they want to steal games.  There aren't many worthwhile homebrew apps that DON'T work on 2.0 (i'm talking... maybe 5... if that).
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: Franco on December 28, 2005, 06:20:41 pm
Im just in the process of getting another PSP. I got a 1.5 originaly to play emu and test homebrew etc. I would stick as I am with just the one but I REALLY need to play GTA which I cannot at the mo without upgrading my firmware to a point where I cannot revert to 1.5.

Ive got the opportunity to get another PSP fairly cheap so I think im going to go for it. This way I can keep my 1.5 for homebrew etc and then upgrade the other one as I see fit to enable me to play firmware dependant games and for other features such as browsing, WMA support etc as well as some other goodies I can imagine Sony releasing to try an tempt users away from 1.0-2.0.

I can see there being a slow and steady, if not pointless,  battle between Sony and PSP devs who are going to try and out do each other all the time, and I would just like to keep my options open (at least for the moment) by having both versions to pick and choose from.
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: Samstag on December 28, 2005, 06:30:37 pm
Would it be worth it to get a Japanese PSP with 1.00 firmware? How easy would it be to run Homebrew code and games ;) on it? Or would it be better to get a 1.5? Once I get it how would you run emus and stuff like that on it? Any help from anyone that owns one would be great! Thanks.

The only real difference as far as running homebrew is that on a 1.0 you don't need to use the kxploit.
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: Franco on December 28, 2005, 06:41:10 pm

Not true.  Upgrade to 2.0 to play GTA, then you can downgrade to 1.5 when you like.  Just don't go over 2.0 or there may not be any turning back.


I know, but I really don't fancy updating and downgrading the firmware all the time without knowing what affect it has on a PSP. Plus I can quite easily imagine Sony releasing new games which require upgrading to 2.01 or even higher.
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pmc on December 28, 2005, 07:46:28 pm

Not true.  Upgrade to 2.0 to play GTA, then you can downgrade to 1.5 when you like.  Just don't go over 2.0 or there may not be any turning back.


I know, but I really don't fancy updating and downgrading the firmware all the time without knowing what affect it has on a PSP. Plus I can quite easily imagine Sony releasing new games which require upgrading to 2.01 or even higher.

Honestly, unless you need the UMD emulator, there's no reason not to run 2.0. You get GTA, homebrew, and most of the emus. I've never had to go back to 1.5 for any reason. Two PSPs seems pointless to me.

-pmc
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: fastredpacman on December 28, 2005, 10:37:25 pm
Ok so once I get the Psp where do I start for emus? And what emulators are available for it and how good are they? I noticed the Xbox emulators for Mame and Neo geo are kind of choppy and the xbox is a stronger system right?
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: fastredpacman on December 29, 2005, 12:45:07 pm
Anyone??
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pointdablame on December 29, 2005, 01:16:53 pm
NES, SNES, and Genesis are nice on PSP.  You'll need to change settings for individual games sometimes to get best performance, and there are a few games that just won't play well no matter what.

NeoGeoCD is also supposed to be good, but I haven't tried it yet.  MAME is ok on the PSP, the GBA emulator has potential, but plays most games too slow currently.  GB/GBC is pretty good though.
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pmc on December 29, 2005, 01:20:03 pm
Prolly good to start here (http://forums.qj.net/forumdisplay.php?f=48).

Looks like Fanjita updated the eboot loader for firmware 2.0 just a couple of days ago.

-pmc
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pointdablame on December 29, 2005, 01:40:13 pm
Prolly good to start here (http://forums.qj.net/forumdisplay.php?f=48).

Looks like Fanjita updated the eboot loader for firmware 2.0 just a couple of days ago.

-pmc

yup.  The 2.0 eboot loader has been out for a while now, but its looking better and better
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: fastredpacman on December 29, 2005, 03:10:49 pm
NES, SNES, and Genesis are nice on PSP.  You'll need to change settings for individual games sometimes to get best performance, and there are a few games that just won't play well no matter what.

NeoGeoCD is also supposed to be good, but I haven't tried it yet.  MAME is ok on the PSP, the GBA emulator has potential, but plays most games too slow currently.  GB/GBC is pretty good though.

Like which games have you run into that are unplayable?
Title: Re: PSP 1.00 Japanese
Post by: pointdablame on December 30, 2005, 01:16:42 am
NES, SNES, and Genesis are nice on PSP.  You'll need to change settings for individual games sometimes to get best performance, and there are a few games that just won't play well no matter what.

NeoGeoCD is also supposed to be good, but I haven't tried it yet.  MAME is ok on the PSP, the GBA emulator has potential, but plays most games too slow currently.  GB/GBC is pretty good though.

Like which games have you run into that are unplayable?

the only one off the top of my head is Mario Kart for the SNES, which really upsets me.  You can get it to "play" but IMHO, its never really playable.  It's right on the verge, but it's just too laggy.

If you play around with settings, most games I've tried can become playable.