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Title: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 12:47:38 pm
I'm not sure quite how to figure him.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 12:51:17 pm

People are like that with this stuff... they want it, they want you to provide it, but they don't want to pay or contribute or even move it.  They just want you to build it, design it, configure it, deliver it, set it up, and support it.

And they will get self righteous if you don't do it for them.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Sephroth57 on December 12, 2005, 01:19:29 pm
be glad you dont have to build it, cause when they mess up the frontend you will be the one called over to fix it
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ClubNinja on December 12, 2005, 01:46:49 pm
Make sure you tell his kids why they're not getting their arcade game this Christmas.  What a cheapass.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: duffjr on December 12, 2005, 01:47:36 pm
i see this stuff all the time.  this reminds me of the kids who don't loan their video games out because that one time a selfish kid kept it.  every ---smurfin--- ---tallywhacker--- i loaned a video game too has kept it.  then when you ask for it back, "the what?  i gave it back to you months ago.  i don't even play that system anymore.  it's for little kids. my cousin has it..."

he think because it's your gift, he shouldn't have to pay.  you're gonna take all the credit for it.  he can't have his kids loving someone else for christmas while all his presents are forgotten.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 01:49:42 pm

Don't ever loan anything out you're not prepared to lose. 
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: GGKoul on December 12, 2005, 01:56:32 pm
be glad you dont have to build it, cause when they mess up the frontend you will be the one called over to fix it

Yep!! I was temped to make a MAME cab for my non-technical buddy and I know if I do, he'll be calling me ALL the time to come fix it...
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 02:02:08 pm

And if you agree on a price, get it in writing.  Don't need a formal contract, but itemize out cost of materials.  If you don't do that people will come back and try to pay you a lower cost than agreed upon and they say stuff like "Well I never told you it had to have all that printed art".
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Harry Potter on December 12, 2005, 02:21:47 pm
Don't deal with him. No matter what you do for him, it seems he'll complain relentlessly or try to screw you in some way.

Avoid avoid avoid.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 12, 2005, 02:43:43 pm
No matter what you do for him, it seems he'll complain relentlessly or try to screw you in some way.



This sounds a lot like you when you're drunk.

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Bones on December 12, 2005, 03:51:41 pm
Cheap bastard.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: RayB on December 12, 2005, 04:38:43 pm
For some people the only way to afford the Mercedes is exactly by being cheap elsewhere.

Also, some people don't like being told how to spend their money. Maybe he doesn't want his kids to have any arcade machines. Who knows.

Maybe he thinks you're the cheapskate, since people with lots of disposable income have skewed views on what is affordable and what isn't. He's probably wondering why you're pestering him for the equivalent of what he spends on a pair of underwear? Who knows...

Just throwing out some possible explanations...

Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 04:41:11 pm

All of which point to his being a dumbass.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markb on December 12, 2005, 04:43:55 pm
Just like Asimov's robot laws here are my laws of building something for someone:-

Rule 1 - Never build something for someone with no technical ability (mums are excluded)
Rule 2 - If when building it you ask yourself 'Will they need that?' then the answer is automatically No
Rule 3 - If component A is cheaper than B then buy B as it is less likely to need you to go around and repair it.
Rule 4 - Whatever it costs you to build add 25% for the 'cheapskate factor'

Almost forgot the Zeroeth Rule - never agree to build something when inebriated.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: RayB on December 12, 2005, 04:45:47 pm
Never agree to build something with a fixed deadline (ie: Christmas)
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 04:47:55 pm

Never agree to build something for someone who doesn't understand the complexity of the item.

They will always dramatically underestimate how much you did for them.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: JackTucky on December 12, 2005, 04:48:22 pm
If someone told me "I want to give your kids a gift, but you have to provide the <insert part here>", I might politely tell them to get something for them that they can give wholly own their own.

Why not find someone else that is planning on giving them a gift to kick in.  I would definitely kick in a TV on a cab that I could put my name on and not have to the other work  :P

Art
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 04:49:57 pm

But the work is the gift, really... why would he spend the cash and do the work, particularly if the cash is a difficult thing for him at the moment.

I'll do dozens of hours of work for your kids, but you have to help with the cash because I can't afford the parts, is not an unreasonable proposition.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 04:59:45 pm
He and the kids asked me if I could build one for them (with no offer to reimburse me for costs).
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Bones on December 12, 2005, 05:12:23 pm
It's Christmas and this is an awesome gift any kid would love. To be able to grant your kids a working cab for the cost of small TV is a rare opportunity.

I don't care what anyone thinks and I don't buy the excuses. He is nothing but a selfish cheap bastard.

Credit to you Mark. Anybody can buy stuff from a department store but it is something special when somebody gives the gift of their labour.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: mccoy178 on December 12, 2005, 05:13:36 pm
I'm building two fullsize cabinets right this second for my best friend and my wife's cousin.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Dartful Dodger on December 12, 2005, 05:46:19 pm
It's Christmas and this is an awesome gift any kid would love. To be able to grant your kids a working cab for the cost of small TV is a rare opportunity.

Kids love puppies, an arcade cabinet the size of a refrigerator that plays only HALF the games a modern cell phone can play, is a novelty.  I child will tire of it after a week.  The father may have been behind the idea the day he first saw it, but after thinking about it and the basement full of toys that the kids loved for a day, had second thoughts.

It's Christmas, let it go, you weren't offering one of his kids a kidney.  If you need some one to hate this Christmas, hate me.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 05:53:28 pm
If you need some one to hate this Christmas, hate me.

But I love you.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Dartful Dodger on December 12, 2005, 06:08:55 pm
I work in an open office.  Please refrain from writing things that make me laugh or display any facial expressions that will draw attention to the fact that I'm slacking off.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 12, 2005, 06:23:28 pm
be glad you dont have to build it, cause when they mess up the frontend you will be the one called over to fix it

There is no frontend.  He said he'd be using a Jakk's pack.  The little handheld plug-into-your-TV games they sell at Wal-Mart for $15.

I just don't get people like that.  think he doesn't want to do it because his kids will never look at it as "Unka Mark built us this, and dad bought the TV for it".  He probably doesn't wanna shell out a hundred bucks for something you'll FOREVER get the credit for.  Some folks are funny like that.  They feel the need to get "credit" for something they do for their kids, as if their kid is somehow keeping some running total or it'll get them some respect/obedience from their kid later on down the road.

You've also spoken about how your out-laws are ass hats anyhoo.  Seems like it runs through the family.  Just be happy the one you chose to marry isn't infected ;D ;)
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 06:51:59 pm
My wife and I spent all lunch arguing over how we think Christmas with the In-Laws will go down this year.  I just told her, now that I understand how they are, I promise not to get upset.

However - I'm not babysitting our kids PLUS the brother-in-law's two boys and brand new baby girl.  Her family treats me like the hired help and that REALLY, REALLY BUGS ME.

I generally love people, but even my wife agrees her family is a bunch of worthless, self-absorbed, selfish ---punks---.  Unfortunately she kind of forgets about our nuclear family when we get together with her parents/brother's family.

My family is very loving and accepting.  In my town I'm a respected member of the community.  It is very unsettling to me to be treated like dirt by these people.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Bones on December 12, 2005, 06:59:44 pm
People are strange and families can be the worst.

The only real thing you can do to maintain your dignity is treat them with the respect that you feel you deserve and then when they ain't looking wipe your ass on their curtains.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 07:11:49 pm
when they ain't looking wipe your ass on their curtains.

LMAO
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 12, 2005, 07:15:29 pm
People are strange and families can be the worst.

The only real thing you can do to maintain your dignity is treat them with the respect that you feel you deserve and then when they ain't looking wipe your ass on their curtains.

/me can't stop choking from laughing so hard


In my town I'm a respected member of the community. 


Jeez, how small IS that community that YOU are  respected member?  ;)
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 12, 2005, 07:19:09 pm

Now I know what to give them for Christmas!!!!


I've got an even better idea!  You gave me the idea too!

Quote

Ass Hat ignores my dad and...one of the Schnausers SHITS right on the carpet. 


GAME ON! ;D
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Scott84 on December 12, 2005, 07:36:46 pm
Hes probably embarassed that its not him building it for his kids.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: JackTucky on December 12, 2005, 07:38:09 pm
He and the kids asked me if I could build one for them (with no offer to reimburse me for costs).  I said yes if they could provide the TV.

Then he is an ass-hat.  and that dog poo would have been on his windshield if he didn't clean it up.

Art
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 12, 2005, 07:41:37 pm
My in-laws have a new house this year where we'll be going on Christmas Eve.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 12, 2005, 08:49:14 pm
  Ass Hat ignores my dad and brings the dogs on in and one of the Schnausers SHITS right on the carpet.  Guess who had to clean it up?

That's when you throw them the ---fudgesicle--- out.  "I do this expensive thing for you for free and you ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on my floor?  Does my home look like a toilet to you?!"  Do it in your best DeNiro voice. 

I hate it when people bring their animals.  My brother in law once brought his dog to my house despite knowing his sister is allergic.  Then he gets all "what did I do" when the thing is sitting on my couch and I get pissed.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: duffjr on December 12, 2005, 11:36:19 pm
how'd he know his sister acquired an allergy late in her life?
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 12, 2005, 11:53:44 pm
how'd he know his sister acquired an allergy late in her life?

I'm guessing that when Chad said


My brother in law once brought his dog to my house despite knowing his sister is allergic.


it wasn't something she aquired late in life.  Perhaps you've read some of Chad's previous work.  I'm quite sure he told us this gem precisely BECAUSE she's had that allergy all her life, meaning her ass hat brother should definitely know that. 

Of course, Chad coulda made a mistake ;D
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: duffjr on December 12, 2005, 11:55:10 pm
i thought it said unknowing...i ate a bad cheese burrito for dinner.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 13, 2005, 01:28:15 am
i thought it said unknowing...i ate a bad cheese burrito for dinner.

As long as you haven't combined that burrito with cheese doodles, I think you're gonna make it.  If you have, you better seek medical attention, and QUICK! ;D
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: duffjr on December 13, 2005, 05:18:33 am
well, i woke up in the middle of the night.  it was the worst dump i've ever had.  it started out fine and healthy but then turned bad 30 minutes through.  i'm estimating it at 5 lbs.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 07:25:26 am
how'd he know his sister acquired an allergy late in her life?

She's had it her entire life, is older than he is, thus she has had it, along with asthma, both of their entire lives.  He knew, just didn't care.

Even without that no person with manners puts their dog on your couch.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 13, 2005, 10:00:26 am


They have SILK curtains in the living room.  I've always wanted to wipe my arse with silk.  If possible I'll get a picture of it (a la the frosted you-know-whats) to post through the trap door.

Normally, I'm opposed to poo pics, but in this case, I'm willing to make an exception.

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 10:02:24 am

"What happened to the curtain?"
"What?"
"There is a brown stain on the curtain"
"That sucks"
"What did you do?"
"with what?"
"the curtain"
"What curtain?"
"The one with the stain"
"your curtain is stained?  That sucks"
"did you stain the curtain"
"this curtain?"
"yes, this curtain"
"no"
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 13, 2005, 10:22:09 am
While you're at it, you might try slipping a dog turd under the floor mat in his mercedes.

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 10:25:44 am

No way, put a fish in there.  Always a fish, fish stink harder longer.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 13, 2005, 10:52:30 am
Excellent. Put it way under the seat where he won't see it.

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 10:55:13 am

This is a DIY site, bro.

Put it IN the seat where even if he ever finds it he'll never be rid of it.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 13, 2005, 11:07:14 am

This is a DIY site, bro.

Put it IN the seat where even if he ever finds it he'll never be rid of it.

If only we could harness your powers for good instead of evil. ;)

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 11:55:48 am

It is a common revenge in the Maritimes... someone pisses you off, you plant a mackerel in their car/house/wife.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 13, 2005, 12:10:13 pm

It is a common revenge in the Maritimes... someone pisses you off, you plant a mackerel in their car/house/wife.

In High School I dated a girl who someone evidently did that to.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 13, 2005, 02:26:20 pm
I nominate this thread for the title of "Best Thread Ever Without Cheesecake" ;D

Oh, and see if his Mercedes is set up like BMW's with the battery under the rear seat.  If so, put it in the battery compartment.  Also, one up under the dashboard somewhere will get him smelling it sooner, and when he finds THAT one, he'll think he's found it, and the resulting stink from the one under the seat/in the battery compartment will just be assumed to be the lingering smell from the one he found, and will be allowed to fester longer, perhaps to the point of being unremoveable.  ;D

For immediate satisfaction, if there's a Spencer's in your area, pick up a can of their fart spray, tape the spray button down and toss it in the back of the car.  Mebbe throw a dog turd in there too so he thinks his dogs did it.

I haven't worked out how you'll get the fart can out without subjecting yourself to the punishment, but I'm sure the supercomputer that is BYOAC will be able to solve that one pretty quickly. ;D

Always glad to help the holidays be more enjoyable ;D
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 02:30:37 pm

Duh.  Why would he want fart in a can when he has a whole assload of fart on standby?
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 13, 2005, 02:52:21 pm


I haven't worked out how you'll get the fart can out without subjecting yourself to the punishment, but I'm sure the supercomputer that is BYOAC will be able to solve that one pretty quickly. ;D



I'll loan my painting respirator to whoever wants to be the lucky one to go in after that can.

-S
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 02:56:30 pm

Real farts leave no traceable evidence.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: RetroJames on December 13, 2005, 03:00:31 pm

It is a common revenge in the Maritimes... someone pisses you off, you plant a mackerel in their car/house/wife.

Toss it on the roof so it lands in the gutters.  :)
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: nostrebor on December 13, 2005, 03:12:35 pm

Duh.  Why would he want fart in a can when he has a whole assload of fart on standby?

Just have Duffjr send you a cheese burrito...

 You'll have to time it just right though. Careful planning is the key!
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: ChadTower on December 13, 2005, 04:25:07 pm

Forget planning.  Carpet bombing.

Or should we say Carpet Farting.  Gas based chemical weapons.  Aggression via methane.

Don't eff with me or I'll gas your people, then drop a bomb that will end your society as you know it.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: AtomSmasher on December 13, 2005, 05:08:30 pm
I think you should put the fish inside his computer case, its warm enough to cause it to stink real bad and the case fans should do a good job distributing the smell.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: PetitMorte on December 13, 2005, 05:43:29 pm
Actually, instead of fart-spray inside his car, go to a sporting goods store, and ask for a small bottle of "Deer Lure"  (Any hunters out here to back me up on this?)

Deer Lure is concentrated female deer in heat urine.  It comes in a small bottle, easily consealed, much like a bottle of visene, designed to conveniently spray this utterly foul-smelling fluid where you want it to go without getting it all over yourself or your hands.

I would recommend spraying it into the dashboard vents, so when the heater kicks in, the occupents get the full up-close-and-personal benefit of female deer pheremones.

With any luck, he'll come outside one morning and find five or six male deer all humping different parts of his car.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: markrvp on December 13, 2005, 05:52:56 pm
With any luck, he'll come outside one morning and find five or six male deer all humping different parts of his car.

That's great.  That one may be the best.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 13, 2005, 05:57:26 pm
If we're gonna involve live animals, a skunk would be the best solution all the way around.  It'll let loose when Ass Hat lets the dogs in the car, stinking up the car, and causing him far more work and/or money having the stink removed from the dog.  Plus, how ya gonna tomato juice the inside of a Mercedes?  ;D

See, BYOAC seems to be morphing into Build Your Own Asshat Computer.  We could extract revenge on so many levels regular non-BYOAC people haven't even DREAMED of!  We reek like havoc!
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Luxury on December 13, 2005, 06:07:42 pm
Christmas really does bring out the best in people.
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: DrewKaree on December 13, 2005, 06:14:29 pm
Christmas really does bring out the best in people.

Actually, duffjr only needed a cheese burrito.  I don't think that was related to Christmas in any way at all ;D
Title: Re: My Brother-In-Law is ???
Post by: Stingray on December 14, 2005, 01:49:57 pm
We reek like havoc!

He smells bad, but I wouldn't say he reeks.

-S