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Title: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 05, 2005, 04:08:18 pm

Just curious, I was poking around for local pins and saw this (http://cgi.ebay.com/MAME-VIDEO-ARCADE_W0QQitemZ6231710527QQcategoryZ20270QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 05, 2005, 04:11:45 pm
You know ebay. A rule is only enforced if someone is actually yelling at them about it.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 05, 2005, 04:48:23 pm

In that case I'm taking my pants off.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: allroy1975 on December 05, 2005, 05:24:26 pm
In that case...I'm yelling about it.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: RayB on December 06, 2005, 12:57:45 am
"Due to a recent marriage and my friends no longer coming over my house, I am putting up this Mame Video Arcade."

What's with these guys who get married and then promptly chop off their nuts?!
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: tommy on December 06, 2005, 01:50:15 am
"Due to a recent marriage and my friends no longer coming over my house, I am putting up this Mame Video Arcade."

What's with these guys who get married and then promptly chop off their nuts?!


It seems like that is always the case from reading these forums(not only ebay), eiether they are getting rid of stuff or they are in the process of asking to be able to have a cab.

I agree though, get a pair and have what you enjoy dammit.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Harry Potter on December 06, 2005, 07:04:37 am
I agree though, get a pair and have what you enjoy dammit.

Nah, too easy.

But I agree with the whole statement.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 06, 2005, 08:36:30 am
I agree though, get a pair and have what you enjoy dammit.

Nah, too easy.

But I agree with the whole statement.

Agreed on both points.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Sephroth57 on December 06, 2005, 08:45:25 am
"Due to a recent marriage and my friends no longer coming over my house, I am putting up this Mame Video Arcade."

What's with these guys who get married and then promptly chop off their nuts?!


It seems like that is always the case from reading these forums(not only ebay), eiether they are getting rid of stuff or they are in the process of asking to be able to have a cab.

I agree though, get a pair and have what you enjoy dammit.

i enjoy a pair of boobs
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Havok on December 06, 2005, 09:03:12 am
"Due to a recent marriage and my friends no longer coming over my house, I am putting up this Mame Video Arcade."

What's with these guys who get married and then promptly chop off their nuts?!


Besides, who needs friends to come over and play the games? I'll sit there by myself for hours even if no-one is around...

 ;D
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Frosty on December 06, 2005, 10:36:24 am
i enjoy a pair of boobs

Sweeeeeet.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 06, 2005, 11:26:34 am

It always boggles my mind that people will spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars building a MAME machine and then NOT use a cordless mouse and keyboard.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Crazy Cooter on December 06, 2005, 12:18:53 pm
** Spreading my legs so I can get kicked in the nuts about this topic (again)  ::). **

Has anyone bothered to help the MAMEdevs and bring it to their attention?  Or are we waiting for them to quit sleeping and their daytime jobs so they can add all the latest titles and fix the bugs, and fix the control listings and police ebay and craigslist and do everything else "we" want them to...

The ban isn't gone.  The MAMEdevs asked for the communities help for stuff like this.  (that means us).

Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 06, 2005, 12:20:12 pm

"we" want them to?

Ain't my job to protect their property.  I was just observing that the policing of Ebay appears to have stopped.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Crazy Cooter on December 06, 2005, 12:44:22 pm

"we" want them to?

Ain't my job to protect their property.  I was just observing that the policing of Ebay appears to have stopped.

Right, that's why they asked.  They're not telling anyone.  But it isn't their job to release anything to the public either.  I just don't understand why people get up in arms (like last time this issue was discussed) about bringing auctions to their attention.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 06, 2005, 12:46:31 pm

You are the only one up in arms.  Put your arms down and there will be no one up in arms.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Crazy Cooter on December 06, 2005, 12:48:50 pm
I'm not up in arms.  I just don't understand why people are resistant to helping the MAMEdevs.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Havok on December 06, 2005, 01:04:23 pm
Bah! I say as long as you are not a business, then sell it on e-bay. Just remove the Mame program, and tell people where to get it on their own. The guy deserves to sell the cab - he built it and put the time in to configure, etc. Just try to keep it legal, that's what I say.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 06, 2005, 01:53:57 pm
I'm not up in arms.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: whammoed on December 06, 2005, 01:56:37 pm
I'm not up in arms.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 06, 2005, 01:58:39 pm
Bah! I say as long as you are not a business, then sell it on e-bay. Just remove the Mame program, and tell people where to get it on their own. The guy deserves to sell the cab - he built it and put the time in to configure, etc. Just try to keep it legal, that's what I say.

I agree. I mean, I guess I should not sell my wife's Explorer because it uses proprietary Ford software. Yeah, not even close to the same thing, but I'm a smartypants.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: SirPoonga on December 06, 2005, 03:37:07 pm
I'm not up in arms.  I just don't understand why people are resistant to helping the MAMEdevs.

We are resistant to helping the MAMEdevs because we are not up in arms about their issue.

Were we up in arms we would feel compelled to help the MAMEdevs.

I am also not up in arms about the leaves in my backyard, thus I am not helping them relocate.

Who is this "we"?

So, if you saw your neighbor's house getting robbed you wouldn't do anything as it has nothing to do with you?  It's not your issue they are getting robbed, it's theirs, right?  So you would observe the policing in your area has stopped and do nothing about it?
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Havok on December 06, 2005, 04:09:02 pm
I'm not up in arms.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 04:11:03 pm
Bah! I say as long as you are not a business, then sell it on e-bay. Just remove the Mame program, and tell people where to get it on their own. The guy deserves to sell the cab - he built it and put the time in to configure, etc. Just try to keep it legal, that's what I say.

I agree. I mean, I guess I should not sell my wife's Explorer because it uses proprietary Ford software. Yeah, not even close to the same thing, but I'm a smartypants.

-S

no you should sell the explorer because it's junk. most people I know who have had an elpoder has had transmission problems.

stupid Ford replacing the Bronco for that crap
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 06, 2005, 04:29:54 pm
Don't be an Explorer hater. :)

I bought it new in '98, still going fine with 110,000 miles.

I'm sure this has something to do with MAME on eBay.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 06, 2005, 04:30:06 pm
Who is this "we"?

So, if you saw your neighbor's house getting robbed you wouldn't do anything as it has nothing to do with you?
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 04:38:37 pm
Don't be an Explorer hater. :)

I bought it new in '98, still going fine with 110,000 miles.

I'm sure this has something to do with MAME on eBay.

-S

yeah that one sounds defective because the trannie is designed to go out at approx. 70,000 miles
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 06, 2005, 04:41:21 pm
Good thing the warrenty is expired. I don't want the transmission "upgrade".

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 04:49:13 pm
Ford Explorers are funny....

They put crappy transmissions in them then decide to give everybody who still has the original tires a free tire replacement to make up for it.


hey Ford people if you ever read this Bring back the Bronco and not that stupid concept version you had a few years ago
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: GGKoul on December 06, 2005, 05:03:06 pm
hey Ford people if you ever read this Bring back the Bronco and not that stupid concept version you had a few years ago

I'm sure they could get OJ as there celebrity spokeman for a redesigned White Bronco.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: SirPoonga on December 06, 2005, 05:14:06 pm
Uh oh - here we go again. Stealing isn't a good analogy: the Mame devs have lost nothing.
<insert any crime analogy>  It doesn't matter if it is stealing or not.  I could have used, "So if you saw someone committing arson on your neighbor's house..."

Also it doesn't have to be your neighbor.  I get your sarcasm Chad...

I could have said "If you saw someone being mugged".  Heck, nothing has to be lost either or it doesn't have to be a crime.  You could just be a helpful person.  I could have said "If you saw someone next to a car on the side of the road in freezing weather with hazzards on ..." would you at least stop to see if help was needed?

The devs have asked for help with it and have a form you can fill out on mamedev.com.  If you didn't want someone making money off of something you created but didn't have the money to enforce the trademark would you ask others that like your product to help out?  Don't answer with the sarcasm that you'd charge money for it.  That's not what I am asking.  I am asking if you were in situation the mamedevs are in would you ask for help?

the mamedevs aren't even asking that you actively go search for auctions.  They are happy if you just report the ones you happen to come across in your normal ebay activities.  Just like I am not going to go out and actively seatch for crime to try and stop it, that is the police's job.  But if I do see something amiss I am going to report it.  I had to do that in summer.  I saw a manhole cover missing in the road and reported it.

Now yes, as an individual it's your choice to help or not.  But the term "we" was used as in to indicate someone is representing the whole forum.  I was just countering that isn't how the whole forum thinks.

Another good example that has to deal with this board.  You don't have to use the "report to moderator" link (and many of you don't but still think a thread should be nixed and reply in length about it without clicking the link, tsk tsk) but some of you do to help us out.

So, to add insight to Crazy Cooter's statement "I just don't understand why people are resistant to helping the MAMEdevs", it's because there are people who aren't helpful and don't see the need to help anyone but themselves.  Luckily not everyone thinks that way, otherwise there would be no volunteer fire departments :)

I like the tangent this thread has gone off on.  I'd almost swear the regulars of this forum had ADD.


Edit: After re-reading what I said it does sound like I am "going after" ChadTower.  This is not the case.  I tried to present the issue from both sides on why or why not one would help the mamedevs in reporting auctions.  It seems a little on the why you would side but that is because I think the why not has been covered in other peoples opinions.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 05:42:36 pm
hey Ford people if you ever read this Bring back the Bronco and not that stupid concept version you had a few years ago

I'm sure they could get OJ as there celebrity spokeman for a redesigned White Bronco.

I don't know it's pretty friggin ugly....


(http://www.broncodriver.com/images/concept.jpg)
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: SirPoonga on December 06, 2005, 05:43:50 pm
I don't know it's pretty friggin ugly....
It's not that bad.  It's kinda like if Ford designed a mini-hummer.  At least it isn't an Aztek.

The mirrors don't quite fit the rest of the style.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 05:50:51 pm
topless bronco


(http://www.roadfly.com/magazine/galleries/detroit_auto_show_2004/photos/photos-01-2004/Ford-Bronco-Concept-pic-12-9668518.JPG)
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: MYX on December 06, 2005, 06:54:47 pm
I love this place. Everyone gets into an argument about one thing then suddenly curves into a conversation about cars. Only here man. I say sell the cab but without the software. It should not be "selling point" It is a nice cab, just with bad motivation. I also agree that it is fun to play by yer self. And who is this person that he cant get more friends. Perhaps we should all get on e-may and jack the price up to like $15,000, then stiff em. I would love to do it. I need to get a trash eBay account.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 06, 2005, 06:57:50 pm
I love this place. Everyone gets into an argument about one thing then suddenly curves into a conversation about cars. Only here man. I say sell the cab but without the software. It should not be "selling point" It is a nice cab, just with bad motivation. I also agree that it is fun to play by yer self. And who is this person that he cant get more friends. Perhaps we should all get on e-may and jack the price up to like $15,000, then stiff em. I would love to do it. I need to get a trash eBay account.

but how do you really feel about explorers and broncos?
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: mccoy178 on December 07, 2005, 09:48:37 am
In this particular instance, I don't have a problem with the mame name being used.  If I sell my cabinet, I want to have a reference that anyone looking for this sort of thing will know.  What's wrong with mentioning mame if nothing comes installed and is being sold by a private owner?  What would one look for on ebay if searching for this type of machine.  Seeing mame in the title of an auction while I was looking for a golden tee machine is what led me to here.  You could put any title on the auction and say it can play over 4000 games, but with out name branding, how would one search for such a thing?  Anyways, I don't agree with mass marketing and mame being tide together, but for a personal owner trying to sell his cabinet, as long as nothing came installed, I would have no problem with it and certainly would not get irate about it.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Havok on December 07, 2005, 09:58:20 am
topless bronco

Did someone say topless? Blonde, Brunette, or Redhead?
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: MYX on December 07, 2005, 10:10:36 am
but how do you really feel about explorers and broncos?

I drive a dodge intrepid. Intrepids also have a history of bad Transmissions but mine has been great. Explorers and Broncos? Hmmmmm. Never driven either of em so I somehow have to live vicariously through those who do... naw, actually I never lost sleep about never driving one. The Ford Hummer Ripoff looks like fun. I used to be a huge hummer fan untill they brought out the H2 and now H3. The reason to love the the orriginal hummer was, it was this mean grizzly hunk of metal that would climb a tree if you wanted it to. Now it looks like a 4 runner. It is moms tank to take the kids 3 miles to school. Don't get it.

As to the cabinet. I agree Sell it as a MAME cabinet but do not sell MAME or the ROMs as part of the package. It is folks like this that put up all the flags that send the snoops out to seek and destroy all sign of ROM distributers. Of course we ALL own ALL of these games and have the right to the roms as we all have huge warehouses full of arcade machines. But for the guy who doesn't and just is looking for a ROM here and there it sucks when someone goes out onto a public forum, highly visable, and says YOU can play ALL these great games on this machine... FOR FREE... If you buy it from me.   
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 07, 2005, 12:10:56 pm
I used to be a huge hummer fan untill they brought out the H2 and now H3.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: PetitMorte on December 07, 2005, 12:18:59 pm
So, assuming that one IS interested in helping the mamedevs police e-bay, how would this theoretical one do such a thing?  You probably couldn'y just yell at e-bay, cause you're not a mamedev.  So would there be a report the mame abuse now hotline email address or phone number or something?

Also... lusty, freckle-dappled redheads with long legs, green eyes, huge breasts, and an irish lilt in their voice as they smile, set down a pint of cold dark ale in front of you and ask if there's *anything* else they can do for you.

Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 12:34:32 pm
Ford Explorers are funny....

They put crappy transmissions in them then decide to give everybody who still has the original tires a free tire replacement to make up for it.


hey Ford people if you ever read this Bring back the Bronco and not that stupid concept version you had a few years ago

What is funny about that?

One is a bad part.  No consequences other than customer satisfaction.

The other is a major safety issue.  Without that recall, it would have been followed by major wrongful death suits and a class action suit.

It is normal business.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 07, 2005, 12:36:07 pm
Ford Explorers are funny....

They put crappy transmissions in them then decide to give everybody who still has the original tires a free tire replacement to make up for it.


hey Ford people if you ever read this Bring back the Bronco and not that stupid concept version you had a few years ago

What is funny about that?

One is a bad part.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 12:38:58 pm

Your sense of humour serves you like an amputated leg.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Havok on December 07, 2005, 12:44:02 pm
Also... lusty, freckle-dappled redheads with long legs, green eyes, huge breasts, and an irish lilt in their voice as they smile, set down a pint of cold dark ale in front of you and ask if there's *anything* else they can do for you.



I need a cold shower...

What was this thread about, anyways?
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 07, 2005, 12:45:55 pm


Also... lusty, freckle-dappled redheads with long legs, green eyes, huge breasts, and an irish lilt in their voice as they smile, set down a pint of cold dark ale in front of you and ask if there's *anything* else they can do for you.



I love posts that I can agree with without any reservations whatsoever.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 12:59:39 pm

Cold beer in Ireland is a myth.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 07, 2005, 01:05:33 pm
I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that this lovely Irish vision is serving beer here in the land of cold lager.

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 01:16:03 pm

Irish chicks are mental.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: RayB on December 07, 2005, 01:30:10 pm
Back on topic, I'd like to say that we can't really police it for the MAMEdevs.

Why?

Go ahead and try to report one of those auctions. See what happens. Nothing. Unless YOU own the IP being violated, Ebay will do nothing. They need to be able to verify the claims, otherwise people would be pulling each others' listings left right and center.

No listing I've reported has ever been taken down.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 01:30:52 pm

I will police ebay listings for MAME when I get something out of it.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Stingray on December 07, 2005, 01:31:58 pm

Irish chicks are mental.

"She ain't all there, but then not all of her has to be". --Jayne Cobb

-S
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: ChadTower on December 07, 2005, 01:34:42 pm

It does when she is sweetening the gas in your car with confectioner's sugar.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: SirPoonga on December 07, 2005, 05:16:28 pm
I used to be a huge hummer fan untill they brought out the H2 and now H3. The reason to love the the orriginal hummer was, it was this mean grizzly hunk of metal that would climb a tree if you wanted it to. Now it looks like a 4 runner.
Put the snorkel on it and you could go through 5ft of water!
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Crazy Cooter on December 07, 2005, 05:25:03 pm
http://mamedev.com/contact.html

Nobody should have to deal with ebay.  Just copy/paste some info so the MAMEdevs can find it easily and they will make the judgement call themselves.  That way they can let it slide, ask the person to change a part of it, talk to ebay, whatever.  No need to even "police" ebay.  They just ask that if you happen to see something, let them know.

I kind of like that Bronco btw... with the top on.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: Ed_McCarron on December 07, 2005, 07:25:15 pm
yeah that one sounds defective because the trannie is designed to go out at approx. 70,000 miles

Wow.  My 96 Explorer lost the trans in 2002.  Probably dang close to 70k.  Shifted into reverse - bang - had to drive 9 miles down I-95 doing 13 mph on the shoulder cause the stupid thing wouldn't leave first.

A grand to rebuild the trans and it still takes 15 seconds to shift from reverse to drive.
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: MYX on December 07, 2005, 07:54:37 pm

What was this thread about, anyways?
No one is really sure, we just keep writing things and other people keep writing things back.

I am on e-bay about once a night. Checkin for local deals to snipe. It is how I got my Ms. Pac.
I saw a horrid MAME cabinet about 2 weeks back. If was a home brew. It had no bezel just a computer monitor sitting in a big box.


Now today I found this...
Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Furniture-MAME-tm-Arcade-Machine-Cabinet-195-GAMES_W0QQitemZ6234106029QQcategoryZ13716QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It is like a coffin with video games inside. Who needs a high def screen for asteroids.   


Edit by moderator: shorten those links, dogonne it!
Title: Re: So, is the big ban on MAME on ebay gone?
Post by: missioncontrol on December 07, 2005, 11:22:55 pm
yeah that one sounds defective because the trannie is designed to go out at approx. 70,000 miles

Wow.  My 96 Explorer lost the trans in 2002.  Probably dang close to 70k.  Shifted into reverse - bang - had to drive 9 miles down I-95 doing 13 mph on the shoulder cause the stupid thing wouldn't leave first.

A grand to rebuild the trans and it still takes 15 seconds to shift from reverse to drive.


I bet you could have used my warning a couple years ago huh