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Title: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: krick on November 01, 2005, 11:57:13 am
I just stumbled across a page that has NTFS drivers for DOS and 98SE...

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/NtfsDosProfessional.html

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/NtfsWindows98.html

They are read only drivers and can't be used for the boot drives but I could see having a large secondary drive formatted with NTFS just to hold ROMS.

I think they sell full read/write versions of the drivers but they cost big money.
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: Tiger-Heli on November 01, 2005, 12:06:00 pm
Also mentioned in this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=44634.0
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: krick on November 01, 2005, 12:14:03 pm
I wonder if there are any drive size limitations.
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: krick on November 01, 2005, 12:22:38 pm
I just found another NTFS driver...

http://www.datapol.de/dpe/freeware/index.html

It is discussed here...

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=30998
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: wboy on November 02, 2005, 05:50:19 am
Commerical product...

http://www.mount-everything.com/home/ntfsw/index.htm

The app was being given away for free (full version) with a PC mag I purchase a while back.

I pretty certain it hiding somewhere on my hard drive.... or cd rack for that matter.

Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: krick on November 02, 2005, 10:08:59 am
Commerical product...

http://www.mount-everything.com/home/ntfsw/index.htm

The app was being given away for free (full version) with a PC mag I purchase a while back.

I pretty certain it hiding somewhere on my hard drive.... or cd rack for that matter.



If you find it, get me a copy and I'll host it on my website so other people can share the wealth.

If necessary, make an image of the whole CD and you can upload it to my site via FTP.
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: Major Rock Hardy on November 04, 2005, 02:14:57 pm
Also mentioned in this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=44634.0

wow, someone actually read that post!  I have contributed!   ;D

I wonder if there are any drive size limitations.

so you know:
I got a brand new Seagate 120 GB PATA drive, formatted the whole thing NTFS under win2k using Seagate's DiscWizard utility because I was adding this as additional storage.  I did this because I read on newegg somewhere that this utility was fast for formatting.  I basically wanted a separate physical drive for my roms.  Anyway, after downloading the free utility that I posted about, it was a breeze.  Just booted to win2k, copied the necessary NTFS files (that they tell you about) to your win98 fat32 partition somewhere, then boot to win98 and follow the instructions.  I think somewhere in there you probably have to reboot at least once, but it worked great! 

I ran mame from my win98's C:\mame\mame.exe but used a rompath that included my ntfs drive - no problem.  Mame Analog+ for dual trackballs in win98 worked this way too!

of course, ymmv!  I would be a bit sketched out by doing it on a primary bootable drive (although this comment is not based on experience in any way).  So, specifically to answer your questions about drive size, I'm not sure... I haven't used more than 60 GB of the actual 120 GB drive (to reiterate: 1 big partition).

Good luck!
Rock
Title: Re: NTFS for DOS and 98SE
Post by: krick on November 04, 2005, 05:31:54 pm

of course, ymmv!  I would be a bit sketched out by doing it on a primary bootable drive (although this comment is not based on experience in any way).  So, specifically to answer your questions about drive size, I'm not sure... I haven't used more than 60 GB of the actual 120 GB drive (to reiterate: 1 big partition).


You can't use it on your primary boot drive.  Windows can't see the NTFS drive until the drivers load.  The NTFS drivers aren't loaded until Windows loads.  Mr. Chicken, meet Mr. Egg.

120GB is still under the 137GB LBA32 limit so you should be fine.  I'm curious about drives *over* 137GB.

I only own two drives larger than 120GB, both are 160GB and both are in my TiVo.