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Title: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 23, 2005, 02:07:55 pm
http://www.wral.com/news/4191531/detail.html

this is the first thing that I thought of:


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Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Grasshopper on October 23, 2005, 02:13:53 pm
That's pretty scary. Don't you have employee protection laws in the States? Surely you can't sack someone and not give a reason.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 23, 2005, 02:22:46 pm
Sad thing is alot of places think "We just don't need you anymore" is reason enough and unless you have enough money to fight them in cour,t they will win.
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Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Jabba on October 23, 2005, 02:25:07 pm
No joke with that Pepsi ad. I worked as a contractor for Pepsi for a couple of years and Coke
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: NoOne=NBA= on October 23, 2005, 02:33:04 pm
That's pretty scary. Don't you have employee protection laws in the States? Surely you can't sack someone and not give a reason.

In most states, you can be released without cause.
The only protections are for provable abuse or discrimination.

If someone fires you because they "don't need you anymore", it is up to you to prove that they were discriminatory in doing so.
In Oregon and Washington, it is almost impossible to win a case against an employer, unless there is clear cut evidence to the contrary.

If this case were tried in either of those states, it may be winnable--IF they hired someone to replace your exact route.
If they divided up your route amongst the remaining drivers for a time, you wouldn't win--even if they subsequently decided that they "did" need your job, and rehired for the position at a later date.

Either way, you'd probably have a very difficult time finding a lawyer to take the case because they will probably only do so with a guaranteed payment, win or lose.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Ed_McCarron on October 23, 2005, 08:15:47 pm
No joke with that Pepsi ad. I worked as a contractor for Pepsi for a couple of years and Coke   ***WAS*** a four letter word. They were paying me pretty good and I kinda started liking Pepsi (if ya know what I mean).

Actually, I think this is the same in all HEAVILY branded hugely successful product companies in the US.  The competition is THE enemy!

Other side of the coin.

I worked as a temp for Coke when I was in college.  Went into work with a cup of soda from Taco Bell...  Wasn't fired but caught hell for eating there.  Pepsi prodicts were verboten.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 24, 2005, 10:47:14 am
Sad thing is alot of places think "We just don't need you anymore" is reason enough and unless you have enough money to fight them in cour,t they will win.
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It is enough to fire a person.

Look up At Will Employment.  You can quit for any reason, they can fire you for any reason.  That is the law in most states and it should be the law in most states.

More to the point, a person caught drinking Bud Light should be beaten and then fired.  It doesn't taste, smell, look, or act like a beer.  It is a soft drink.  I couldn't get drunk off a whole case of Bud Light.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 24, 2005, 10:50:03 am
a person caught drinking Bud Light should be beaten and then fired.

No argument here.

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 24, 2005, 12:42:28 pm
Still BS though, he was not at a company function, or on company time. Oh well, sucks to have to work. People with money dictate the rules. Unfortunately, nothing illegal about it. Just keep on supporting the competition is about all you can do in retaliation.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Harry Potter on October 24, 2005, 12:49:19 pm
That's right. CHUG CHUG CHUG  :D :D
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Dartful Dodger on October 24, 2005, 01:32:39 pm
This isn't a matter of company loyalty it's a matter of survival.

If sales drop, a company can't afford to support their employees, so some people will need to be fired.  By that employee buying one Bud, Miller sales dropped by one, so instead of firing a random employee, they fired the guy that caused the drop in sales.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 24, 2005, 04:45:05 pm
More to the point, a person caught drinking Bud Light should be beaten and then fired.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 24, 2005, 08:47:52 pm
I just think it's sad a company can fire you just because they feel like it.....

Why?  You can quit because you feel like it.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: duffjr on October 25, 2005, 02:23:40 am
This isn't a matter of company loyalty it's a matter of survival.

If sales drop, a company can't afford to support their employees, so some people will need to be fired.  By that employee buying one Bud, Miller sales dropped by one, so instead of firing a random employee, they fired the guy that caused the drop in sales.

was he buying bud before the sales drop?  if beer flavor is anything like potato chips, does it really matter what you drink?  do they check your fridge to make sure you only have miller products?  if the employees get 25% off, why buy another beer?
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: shmokes on October 25, 2005, 02:32:55 am
Britney Spears was fired by Pepsi for being photographed drinking Coke.  Of course, she was being payed millions of dollars at the time just to tell people that Pepsi is better than Coke so.....She's a ---auto-censored--- moron and Pepsi should have hired someone to go club her kneecaps. 

Kid Rock, on the other hand, was on vacation at a resort in Mexico and he actually called Coors (he was their spokesperson) and said, "Hey....they don't have Coors here and I AM going to be drinking beer."  They sent him a Coors truck.


Disclaimer:  The above is not an endorsement of Kid Rock.  I think that his music sucks.  I just think he's a better employee than Britney Spears.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Bones on October 25, 2005, 04:13:01 am
My current employer is the company with the dynamic ribbon device. I occasionally drink the other Cola product if it is delivered with a pizza, but I would never deliberately purchase the oppositions product.

Is is all about loyalty to your employer, that and the fact I get 48 cases of drink per year as part of my salary package.....
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 07:11:08 am
I just think it's sad a company can fire you just because they feel like it.....

Why?
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 25, 2005, 08:52:47 am
This isn't a matter of company loyalty it's a matter of survival.

If sales drop, a company can't afford to support their employees, so some people will need to be fired.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 08:56:27 am

I bet he was just another completely incompetent, poor work ethic jerkwad and they used this as an excuse.

Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 09:09:00 am


Kid Rock, on the other hand, was on vacation at a resort in Mexico and he actually called Coors (he was their spokesperson) and said, "Hey....they don't have Coors here and I AM going to be drinking beer."  They sent him a Coors truck.



Must be nice to have that kind of pull. :)

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 09:09:55 am

If Pepsi thought for one second that she was actually selling product, Spears would not have been fired.  Catching her drinking Coke was just a convenient excuse to terminate a dead weight contract.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Harry Potter on October 25, 2005, 10:25:02 am
My current employer is the company with the dynamic ribbon device. I occasionally drink the other Cola product if it is delivered with a pizza, but I would never deliberately purchase the oppositions product.

Is is all about loyalty to your employer, that and the fact I get 48 cases of drink per year as part of my salary package.....
I work for a very large retail chain and i frequently shop as Safeway (the evil competitors). They don't care since I tell them all the time our prices and products sometimes suck.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 10:35:01 am

I work for a very, very large pharmacy retail chain... I still attempt to use my local independent pharmacy when I can and rarely shop at my employer's location.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: AceTKK on October 25, 2005, 10:54:42 am
My current employer is the company with the dynamic ribbon device.

The what?  ???
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 10:57:03 am
Coca Cola, you butthead.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Harry Potter on October 25, 2005, 10:58:11 am
My current employer is the company with the dynamic ribbon device.

The what?  ???
Got coke?

Doh! Not quick enough.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 10:59:21 am

Although, Pabst Blue Ribbon is almost a cola.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 25, 2005, 11:21:02 am

Although, Pabst Blue Ribbon is almost a cola.

Pabst , like Molson, is piss water...
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 11:24:18 am

REAL Molson is very good.

They don't ship real Molson outside of Canada.  They ship the crappy stuff that failed quality control.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: whammoed on October 25, 2005, 11:33:21 am
BYOAC rule #25467:

If a thread mentions beer, a discussion on what constitutes crappy (or good) beer must ensue.  There are no exceptions to this rule.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Grasshopper on October 25, 2005, 12:12:23 pm
Sad thing is alot of places think "We just don't need you anymore" is reason enough and unless you have enough money to fight them in cour,t they will win.
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It is enough to fire a person.

Look up At Will Employment.  You can quit for any reason, they can fire you for any reason.  That is the law in most states and it should be the law in most states.


Chad, I know how you love to play devil's advocate, but that is still a totally ridiculous thing to say. A contract between an employer and an employee is not the same as a contract between two private individuals. In the case of the former the balance of power is skewed sharply in favour of the employer.

If an employee gets fired the consequences for that individual can be devastating because many people rely on a steady income to pay their mortgage, feed their kids etc. However if an employee resigns the effect on a large employer is negligible unless the employee held a very senior position.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 12:28:20 pm

I bet he was just another completely incompetent, poor work ethic jerkwad and they used this as an excuse.



Why must Chad allways be in favor of THE MAN???
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Grasshopper on October 25, 2005, 12:31:19 pm

I bet he was just another completely incompetent, poor work ethic jerkwad and they used this as an excuse.



Why must Chad allways be in favor of THE MAN???

Maybe he is THE MAN.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 12:39:06 pm
ha it's starting to make sense now........
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Dartful Dodger on October 25, 2005, 12:43:11 pm
You are making an assumption that said employee actually SWITCHED from Miller to Bud, for the sales drop. If he NEVER drank Miller, than their sales have suffered nothing...

You are making the assumption that people that drink Miller products never die.

Miller is always looking to replace clients.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 12:47:35 pm
You are making an assumption that said employee actually SWITCHED from Miller to Bud, for the sales drop. If he NEVER drank Miller, than their sales have suffered nothing...

You are making the assumption that people that drink Miller products never die.

Miller is always looking to replace clients.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 25, 2005, 01:13:27 pm
You are making an assumption that said employee actually SWITCHED from Miller to Bud, for the sales drop. If he NEVER drank Miller, than their sales have suffered nothing...

You are making the assumption that people that drink Miller products never die.

Miller is always looking to replace clients.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 01:16:22 pm
oh great now you did it Havok next thing you know they'll be blaming the administration for this conspiracy
 
and it'll become another debate............
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 25, 2005, 01:17:38 pm
oh great now you did it Havok next thing you know they'll be blaming the administration for this conspiracy
 
and it'll become another debate............

I'm just waiting for Chad's post.

 ;D
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:36:46 pm
oh great now you did it Havok next thing you know they'll be blaming the administration for this conspiracy
 
and it'll become another debate............

It's Bush's fault.

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 01:40:03 pm
Chad, I know how you love to play devil's advocate, but that is still a totally ridiculous thing to say. A contract between an employer and an employee is not the same as a contract between two private individuals. In the case of the former the balance of power is skewed sharply in favour of the employer.

I am not putting any opinion into this at all. The law is clear on the definition of AT WILL EMPLOYMENT.  Unless he had a contract, and very few workers ever have a contract, he signed an AT WILL EMPLOYMENT agreement.

If you don't believe me, do a google on AT WILL EMPLOYMENT.  Look at the papers you signed at your own job.  They probably say something very similar to "employee can be terminated, with or without cause, at the discrection of employer at any time", somewhere after it says "employee can terminate employment at any time without reason".

Now, if he's Union, that's different, because the Union does have a contract with the company.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:42:31 pm
Unless he had a contract, and very few workers ever have a contract...

I have a contract. :P

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 01:45:32 pm

You're Union, though, because you are a public school employee, yes?
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:48:24 pm
That's what they tell me, despite the fact that I've never paid dues, been to a meeting, or recieved any kind of corrospondence from said union.

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 01:49:11 pm

Eh, public employee Unions are pretty much there to negotiate your miniscule pay raises every year.

Trust me, it won't protect you from a damn thing.
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:50:45 pm
I don't expect it to. I've been here for six years and have never seen any situation where any employee needed protection from anything. It's a pretty laid back place to work.

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: missioncontrol on October 25, 2005, 01:54:04 pm
---Drew---
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:55:30 pm
---fudgesicle---

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: ChadTower on October 25, 2005, 01:56:01 pm
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Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Stingray on October 25, 2005, 01:56:32 pm
---Drew---

I can't for the life of me work out which word produces this.

-S
Title: Re: Miller Beer Employee Fired For Drinking Bud Light
Post by: Havok on October 25, 2005, 03:47:42 pm
---Drew---

I can't for the life of me work out which word produces this.

-S

Windbag

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