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Title: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 14, 2005, 12:35:18 pm

Linky (http://homepage.mac.com/dmowczan/PhotoAlbum7.html)
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 14, 2005, 01:44:29 pm
Looks like a very nice one. What's Major Havoc going for these days? I haven't seen one at all in years, much less a complete one.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 14, 2005, 01:51:23 pm

The starting point being discussed on that one was four grand.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 14, 2005, 02:14:38 pm
YOW!

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Level42 on September 14, 2005, 02:25:03 pm
What a beauty ! Do we agree this is still a modern looking design today ?
anyone got the dimensions, would be nice to rebuild something like that...
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: skippy on September 14, 2005, 05:25:09 pm
I still do not understand the demand this game brings.  Gameplay is decent not great.  Not something I have great memories of as a kid,  I've only remember playing one once back in the day.  And I think there are lots of other cabinets out there that have much better artwork/concept.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: paigeoliver on September 15, 2005, 05:37:29 am
I still do not understand the demand this game brings.  Gameplay is decent not great.  Not something I have great memories of as a kid,  I've only remember playing one once back in the day.  And I think there are lots of other cabinets out there that have much better artwork/concept.

All the hype is based on the fact that it is a rare vector game, put out by Atari. Atari didn't put out many "rare" games, almost everything they did had big runs.

If the game had a production run like Space Duel did, then they would cost $450 and people would be ripping the monitors out of them for other titles.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 09:54:03 am

I've played it (real hardware, converted Tempest cab, spinner) quite a bit.  It is a unique and excellent game.  I really enjoy it and think it belongs up there with Tempest when the production run is considered.  $5000, definitely not, but that is only for a perfect dedicated.  They only made like 500 of those.  You can get a conversion kit for Tempest much much cheaper.

It is definitely one of the best vector games.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 15, 2005, 11:41:20 am
It's rare, it's color vector and it's Atari. Like Paige pointed out, that alone is enough to warrent it's status as a mega-collectable classic. It's also in a strikingly unique looking cabinet and uses a unique controller. This one is just loaded with reasons why it's in high demand and commands a premium price.

Like anything else in this hobby, a large part of it just has to do with whether or not you played and enjoyed it when it was current. If you did, it's obviously got a nostalgia value that it doesn't have if you never sat in front of one and threw your lunch money into it.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 11:45:00 am

The controller isn't completely unique, there are others that use it.  I, Robot uses it, I think.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 15, 2005, 11:48:58 am
Okay, unique was a poor choice of words. We can all agree that it's a very unusual controller though, and it does set the game apart and add to it's mystique.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: SirPoonga on September 15, 2005, 11:50:02 am
Yep, rare game plud color monitor plus semi-unique control = big bucks.  I'd love to find a mint Lunar Lander....
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 11:51:56 am

The game likely plays better with the spinner anyway.  Does anyone know if the roller is illuminated?
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Havok on September 15, 2005, 07:43:33 pm
Yep, rare game plud color monitor plus semi-unique control = big bucks.  I'd love to find a mint Lunar Lander....

They have a Lunar Lander with the cool lever control at a kid's museum near me - set to freeplay!
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Q*Bert_OP on September 15, 2005, 07:54:15 pm

The controller isn't completely unique, there are others that use it.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 08:40:23 pm

D'oh.

There is a Lunar Lander near you on freeplay and you are here?  What is wrong with you?!  Go!
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Kremmit on September 15, 2005, 11:38:15 pm

The controller isn't completely unique, there are others that use it.  I, Robot uses it, I think.

I,Robot uses a "hall effect" joystick

I, Robot uses the same cabinet.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 08:50:22 am

Yeah, I had a brain fart.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 10:30:52 am
There are one or two other games that use the roller though aren't there? My brain isn't willing to relinquish which games those are at the moment, but there is at least one other one, right?

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 16, 2005, 11:13:34 am
There is some game called Moon Cresta or something like that.

Anything Atari sells for a lot. Anything rare sells for a lot.  Yup, what other people said.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 11:37:48 am
Moon Cresta? That one just uses a simple 2 way left/right joystick doesn't it?

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 16, 2005, 11:57:48 am
Yeah, my bad. There was a panel on Ebay that was moon something... It had a left/right roller. I can't remember what it was for the life of me.

EDIT: Bingo!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6203515292&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:13:22 pm
I don't think that's the one I had in mind. I've never seen a roller with that shape before.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:14:29 pm

WTF is the vector director on that thing?
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:16:10 pm
That's the odd shaped roller I was talking about. Never seen one like that before.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:18:45 pm

It's not the same roller as Major Havoc, though.  Different shape.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:27:15 pm

Different shape.

You're not paying any attention to me at all today are you?

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:29:49 pm

You sound like a needy chick.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:34:47 pm
You assume I'm not one.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:35:31 pm

No I don't.  I've been suspecting it all along.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:38:31 pm
My secret is out. I require jewelry, flowers and heaps of attention.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:42:05 pm

No one said they assume you're a hot, needy chick.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 16, 2005, 12:52:16 pm
There are one or two other games that use *the roller though aren't there? My brain isn't willing to relinquish which games those are at the moment, but there is at least one other one, right?

-S

Ah, I misread "the" as "a." No other game used the major havoc version of the roller. Sorry.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:55:09 pm
I would have sworn that some other game used the same controller, but maybe a different color. Could have been an oregano dream.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 12:56:01 pm

I've never seen an Oregano Dream cab, but I'd like to.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 12:59:46 pm
It's a great game. The visuals are fantastic. Too bad the storyline doesn't make any sense.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 01:09:27 pm

Oddly enough I don't remember it.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 01:23:05 pm
That's a sure sign that you've played it.

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: RayB on September 16, 2005, 02:10:48 pm
Kickman.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Kremmit on September 17, 2005, 01:38:34 am
Too bad the storyline doesn't make any sense.

-S

And yet, it's still funny.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 18, 2005, 06:32:31 pm
I find the fact that stringay and CT keep bantering back and forth. Just get a room, for cripes sake.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 18, 2005, 09:15:01 pm


We did.  We call it BYOAC.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 19, 2005, 11:50:32 am
Too bad the storyline doesn't make any sense.

-S

And yet, it's still funny.

I see you've played it too. :)

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Kremmit on September 19, 2005, 02:38:57 pm
Too bad the storyline doesn't make any sense.

-S

And yet, it's still funny.

I see you've played it too. :)

-S

Played what?  I forgot what we were talking about.  Could you turn up the Hendrix?  I'm hungry.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 19, 2005, 02:45:07 pm

Dude, who was going to make toast?  I need some toast.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 20, 2005, 10:49:53 am
You put bread in, push the lever and in a few minutes toast pops out. Where did the bread go?

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 20, 2005, 11:04:48 am

I ate the bread.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Havok on September 27, 2005, 10:59:19 am
Just posting here to breakup the Chad\Stingray conversation...

Nothing to see here, move along, move along...
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: RayB on September 27, 2005, 02:34:23 pm
POOT!
 ;D
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: Stingray on September 27, 2005, 03:10:16 pm
Hehehehehehe heheheheeh heheheheheheh

Poot.

heheheheh hehe heh heehheheheh hehe

-S
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: ChadTower on September 27, 2005, 03:42:13 pm

Imuh sine you pitty onna runny kine.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: tbombaci on September 27, 2005, 08:05:06 pm
Kickman actually uses a trackball. I noticed KLOV called it a "roller".

Acelerator uses the same roller. It is an Atari proto.

http://www.safestuff.com/wtf16.jpg

-tom
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: RayB on September 28, 2005, 01:03:44 pm
Kickman actually uses a trackball. I noticed KLOV called it a "roller".

It's a Roller shaped like a ball. It will only move along one axis (spin it left or right).
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 29, 2005, 02:21:22 pm
Kickman actually uses a trackball. I noticed KLOV called it a "roller".

Acelerator uses the same roller. It is an Atari proto.

http://www.safestuff.com/wtf16.jpg

-tom

Doh! I remember I played that at CAX. It sucked.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: RayB on September 29, 2005, 02:57:06 pm
Doh! I remember I played that at CAX. It sucked.

You bastard!

 ;D

Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: tbombaci on September 29, 2005, 11:26:10 pm
No way! Kickman rocks!

I loaded it up on my sons miniMAME (since I sold mine) after I played it at CAX 'cause it was cool. It's actually so lame that t is fun to play.

-T
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: DarkKobold on September 30, 2005, 12:54:57 pm
I meant the accelerator proto. It was confusing, the ship was going around in a loop really fast, for no reason.
Title: Re: You probably won't see this again
Post by: RayB on September 30, 2005, 01:04:48 pm
I loved Kickman. It was one of the first games to hook me. I think I was 11 or 12 at the time. I got up to level 5 I think, with the brown ghosts. You have to be really fast with the trackball.