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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: Nipedley on September 10, 2005, 03:15:21 pm

Title: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 10, 2005, 03:15:21 pm
On my Megatech machine, (which was a bit beaten up when I got it), the first player's joystick doesnt function very well at all. The microswitches are all fine - but the metal contacts inside the joystick itself are bent, is there any way to disassemble these and bend them back into shape or do I need a new joystick?
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: paigeoliver on September 10, 2005, 03:53:17 pm
It depends on the stick, in general though you are better off just replacing them.

My quick fix for most games (especially cocktails) is to simply swap the player one stick with the player 2 stick.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 10, 2005, 04:16:29 pm
It depends on the stick, in general though you are better off just replacing them.

My quick fix for most games (especially cocktails) is to simply swap the player one stick with the player 2 stick.

Hm well I'd do that but Player 1 is Red and Player 2 is Black so it just wouldnt really look right :/
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: RayB on September 10, 2005, 07:33:36 pm
The metal contacts inside the joysticks?

Photos please!

Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 10, 2005, 08:59:45 pm
Hehe I'll get em tomorrow - but I'll try and describe, the joystick handle pushes against a base of 4 metal contacts which in turn pushes the microswitch and closes the circuit.. I'd take pictures now but its 2am, and rather dark :D
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 10, 2005, 11:22:30 pm
Hehe I'll get em tomorrow - but I'll try and describe, the joystick handle pushes against a base of 4 metal contacts which in turn pushes the microswitch and closes the circuit.. I'd take pictures now but its 2am, and rather dark :D

Aren't those "metal contacts" part of the microswitches themselves? On my Nintendo joysticks they are; but maybe Nintendo is just doing things differently than everyone else (wouldn't be the first time).
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: pointdablame on September 11, 2005, 12:45:50 am
yeah, it sounds like the micros used on Happ Supers... those metal actuators are part of the microswitch, so some new micros would fix up that problem.

It may not actually be what I'm envisioning though, but it sure sounds like it.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 11, 2005, 01:13:26 am
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yeah, it sounds like the micros used on Happ Supers... those metal actuators are part of the microswitch, so some new micros would fix up that problem.

Yeah:

(http://www.arcadeparadise.org/reviews/joysticks-happsuper.jpg)

The Nintendo joysticks used on games like Punch-Out and Vs. Machines are the same way.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 11, 2005, 06:13:09 am
I dont really know, I've been focusing on the monitor and art portions of my machine more than the controls to be honest :D I'll go out and get some pics now, you're all probably right though. I cant tell, though it definately looks like it, there is a plate over the top of the micro's obstructing from my view. Does this just screw off? (there is a screw in it). If it just needs new micros, are they a specific type? As my button micro's dont have the same function as those..
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 11, 2005, 06:24:59 am
On a similar note, is it possible to get replacement leaf-switch buttons? (I have the assemblies, just need new buttons..) the previous owner (-_-) decided he would play with the control panel layout and swapped colours around, and even put in fruit machine buttons for the game select/enter buttons (I'll just replace those with microswitch).. (He didnt actually bother to light them, though the bulb came in useful for the coin mech..)
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 11, 2005, 01:05:16 pm
I don't know anything about that joystick in your picture; but how did you come to the conclusion that:

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The microswitches are all fine - but the metal contacts inside the joystick itself are bent

If you can't see the microswitches or the actuators due to the view being obstructed by the cover thing? I'd take that cover off and have a look-see if it were mine.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 11, 2005, 03:34:45 pm
I don't know anything about that joystick in your picture; but how did you come to the conclusion that:

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The microswitches are all fine - but the metal contacts inside the joystick itself are bent

If you can't see the microswitches or the actuators due to the view being obstructed by the cover thing? I'd take that cover off and have a look-see if it were mine.
You can see in the circle where the handle is - all I saw was metal contacts that were bent out of shape, the actual view of the microswitches is obstructed by the plate yeah.. Might dig into it tomorrow, but now I have another (sigh) monitor problem to worry about
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 11, 2005, 03:53:21 pm
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You can see in the circle where the handle is - all I saw was metal contacts that were bent out of shape, the actual view of the microswitches is obstructed by the plate yeah.. Might dig into it tomorrow, but now I have another (sigh) monitor problem to worry about

I think you'll find when you remove the plate, that the "metal contacts" are part of the microswitches themselves; in which case, replacing the microswitches should do the trick. I don't know specifically which microswitches you need; though it probably doesn't have to be an exact replacement. There should be identification numbers on the tops of the switches which may help.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: SirPeale on September 11, 2005, 05:06:25 pm
I think you'll find when you remove the plate, that the "metal contacts" are part of the microswitches themselves; in which case, replacing the microswitches should do the trick. I don't know specifically which microswitches you need; though it probably doesn't have to be an exact replacement. There should be identification numbers on the tops of the switches which may help.

At which point you'll find that likely it's cheaper to replace the entire stick.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 11, 2005, 05:21:39 pm
No way of bending the contacts back to normal position then? I think it might have been intentional.. at every corner of this machine ive found something broken or incredibly dangerous that looks like it was left there on purpose -_-
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: RayB on September 11, 2005, 07:18:39 pm
Yeah, you can probably bend them straight...
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: MaximRecoil on September 11, 2005, 08:01:20 pm
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Be aware that some joysticks INTEND for the metal actuators to be bent. In fact Nintendos have a soft V bent in them that encompases the round bushing on the joystick end.

Yes they do, and is there any place you know of where you can get new replacement microswitches for those? I have a Super Punch-Out joystick and while the microswitches are fine in it, I would like to know where to get some spares. The "get a new joystick" advice doesn't apply here because SPO joysticks don't exactly grow on trees.
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Nipedley on September 12, 2005, 12:14:45 pm
These arent meant to be bent - it makes the game very hard to control, and player 2's controls (obviously less-used) are perfectly square
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: Stingray on September 12, 2005, 12:35:00 pm
If it were me, I'd save a lot of headache and just buy two new sticks.

-S
Title: Re: Is it possible to "fix" joysticks?
Post by: ChadTower on September 12, 2005, 12:35:40 pm

Agreed.  You're putting in a lot of work on this thing, don't put crappy sticks on it.  You'll end up with a very pretty, but annoying to play, cabinet.