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Title: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: divemaster127 on September 02, 2005, 05:36:18 pm
hey guys love my psp & the awesome thing it does with movies, quick question is it possible or does the psp have a output to go into a vcr or receiver via RCA plugs, just curious if this was possible
thanks
divemaster
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pmc on September 03, 2005, 10:45:31 am
I don't think that's possible. I too wish it had video and sound output. I'm not a big fan of watching little tiny movies unless I'm on the go.

-pmc
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Scott84 on September 03, 2005, 11:38:48 am
WHy not just watch DVD... its better quality.

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Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pmc on September 03, 2005, 11:57:17 am
I agree. But if you have a PSP in your hand and you don't have a DVD player in your other hand... it begs the question.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Otraotaku on September 07, 2005, 11:01:00 am
I do not own a PSP, but im sure you could convert it into a simular format on the computer, then possibly burn it to a CD, im not sure where i saw these guys doing some sort of Test to see if theyll be able to get a PSP's video file to a DVD,
(in preperation to the new FinalFantasy movie)
 so far i hear its been successful

but as for playing games on PSP on a regular TV, im affraid it would look incredible ......................-ably............................





.... crappy.... the resolution isnt something you can stretch im guessing itll look close to Playstation 1 when enhanced, thats like taking a Jpeg and increasing its size by 200% its gonna look ugly.... if video is the same way, your looking at a bad gif...  lol
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: ChadTower on September 07, 2005, 11:15:26 am

So, if you have a PSP in your hand, and a melon in the other, it begs the question... can you drink melon juice out of your PSP?
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Pik4chu on September 07, 2005, 04:17:52 pm

So, if you have a PSP in your hand, and a melon in the other, it begs the question... can you drink melon juice out of your PSP?

now THAT was funny

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that TVs have a much lower resolution than a PC monitor, even though they are much larger in size (barring HDTV that is)  surprisingly small in fact.  Let me see if I can find the link that describes the video formats.  But anyways. IMO getting sound output would be the easiest.  The challenge is the video.  Don't own a PSP yet so this is all theory but the PSP has onboard speakers.  Well speakers are powered by electronic pulses (duh)  so if you put a connection between the wire/traces and the speakers on the PSP and run it to a normal RCA plug (mono/stereo)  likely need to run it through an amplifier and then into your speaker setup.

The question remains of what video output the psp gives to its little display.  An adapter in that area could get pricey pretty quick.  (think LCD video encoders, which run in the few hundreds)
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: divemaster127 on September 07, 2005, 11:29:45 pm
the only reason i asked this question some of my umd movies i dont have on regular dvd like hellboy, i thought it would be cool if i could hook it to a tv, the psp is a awesome device, with a 1 gig chip i have tons of movies
thanks
psp
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 08, 2005, 12:02:23 am
I do not own a PSP, but im sure you could convert it into a simular format on the computer, then possibly burn it to a CD, im not sure where i saw these guys doing some sort of Test to see if theyll be able to get a PSP's video file to a DVD,
(in preperation to the new FinalFantasy movie)
 so far i hear its been successful
Prepare for what? Squeenix is releasing it on DVD and UMD at the same time.

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but as for playing games on PSP on a regular TV, im affraid it would look incredibly crappy.... the resolution isnt something you can stretch im guessing itll look close to Playstation 1 when enhanced, thats like taking a Jpeg and increasing its size by 200% its gonna look ugly.... if video is the same way, your looking at a bad gif...  lol
Ummm....
Resolution is about the same(acutally half, since PSP is a widescreen 320*240), but in terms of geometry, texture quality, anti-aliasing, and everything EXCEPT resolution, PSP blows PS1 out of the water.

There's so much more to image quality than resolution.
That's why the SNES has prettier games than the NES, even though they run at the same resolution.
...
In fact, that's a very valid comparison.




Also, one thing to keep in mind is that TVs have a much lower resolution than a PC monitor, even though they are much larger in size (barring HDTV that is)  surprisingly small in fact.  Let me see if I can find the link that describes the video formats. 
640*480-ish. TVs are also less sharp than VGA monitors, at least on the CRT side. Things are equal on digital displays like DLP, LCD, and plasma cell.

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But anyways. IMO getting sound output would be the easiest.  The challenge is the video.  Don't own a PSP yet so this is all theory but the PSP has onboard speakers.  Well speakers are powered by electronic pulses (duh)  so if you put a connection between the wire/traces and the speakers on the PSP and run it to a normal RCA plug (mono/stereo)  likely need to run it through an amplifier and then into your speaker setup.
Easier way: mini-headphone jack->2-RCA cable.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Pik4chu on September 08, 2005, 12:45:50 am
hehe, figured it had a headphone jack..  Still brings it back to Sound=easy  video = snowballs chance in hell

and ya on LCD/plasma as its different technology by far from CRTs/projection
And definately that resolution isnt all there is to it. SNES Vs NES is a great example.

Also, has anyone jsut tried scouring the net to see if there is a umd-> ? conv4erter? like DivX or MPG?

/offtopic
Man I wish the FF movie would hurry and come out already, read about it like years ago  :-\
/offtopic
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: ften on September 12, 2005, 06:44:30 pm
Maybe some day this will exist.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000963057605/

-FTen

Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 12, 2005, 07:04:21 pm
Also, has anyone jsut tried scouring the net to see if there is a umd-> ? conv4erter? like DivX or MPG?
UMD movies are MPEG4. Divx should play them. If it doesn, tXvid will, because Xvid supports all possible MPEG4 schemes.

The problem is nothing but the PSP can read UMDs.

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/offtopic
Man I wish the FF movie would hurry and come out already, read about it like years ago  :-\
/offtopic
Years ago? I think that was FF:Spirits Within. That's come and gone...




Footnote: I screwed up when I listed the PSP res as 320*240(hell, 320*240 is a 4:3 res...). Ir's 480*272.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Pik4chu on September 12, 2005, 07:09:45 pm
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/offtopic
Man I wish the FF movie would hurry and come out already, read about it like years ago
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 12, 2005, 07:16:39 pm
/offtopic
Man I wish the FF movie would hurry and come out already, read about it like years ago  :-\
/offtopic
Years ago? I think that was FF:Spirits Within. That's come and gone...

no, I read about it in a gaming PC when they were showing the previews in Japan, and it was definately atleast 1.5 years ago when I did.  With estimates say the JPN release would be in Oct/Nov with the US release unkown.  And it still hasn't been released here to my knowledge. Not even sure if its come out in Japan yet even.  Cant find it on Import sites.  :-\

Ah, okay.
1 and a half makes a lot more sense than "years".

And Advent Children came out just the other day in Japan. 'S like 3 days old.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pmc on September 18, 2005, 08:27:21 pm
Maybe some day this will exist.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000963057605/

Just saw this:

http://www.psp-vault.com/Article306.psp
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: paigeoliver on September 19, 2005, 08:08:19 am
Even HDTV resolution is weak compared to almost ANY computer monitor.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 19, 2005, 05:25:01 pm
Even HDTV resolution is weak compared to almost ANY computer monitor.

1920*1080(HDTV's highest resolution) = 2, 073, 600 pixels.

1600*1200(the highest resolution my monitor can physically do, which it is not rated for, and flickers like mad at) = 1, 920, 000 pixels.

Winner: HDTV.


Caveat: 1080-line is only available in interlaced mode over the air.
There IS a 1080p mode, and it IS available to wired devices, but it takes more than a single TV channel of bandwidth, and thus cannot be broadcast.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: paigeoliver on September 19, 2005, 05:31:49 pm
Even HDTV resolution is weak compared to almost ANY computer monitor.

1920*1080(HDTV's highest resolution) = 2, 073, 600 pixels.

1600*1200(the highest resolution my monitor can physically do, which it is not rated for, and flickers like mad at) = 1, 920, 000 pixels.

Winner: HDTV.


Caveat: 1080-line is only available in interlaced mode over the air.
There IS a 1080p mode, and it IS available to wired devices, but it takes more than a single TV channel of bandwidth, and thus cannot be broadcast.

I have monitors that go higher than that.

And interlaced modes are HALF the resolution that they appear to be. My 2048x1600 computer monitor could display a 2048x3200 interlaced signal, if such a thing existed.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 19, 2005, 06:04:32 pm
Even HDTV resolution is weak compared to almost ANY computer monitor.

1920*1080(HDTV's highest resolution) = 2, 073, 600 pixels.

1600*1200(the highest resolution my monitor can physically do, which it is not rated for, and flickers like mad at) = 1, 920, 000 pixels.

Winner: HDTV.


Caveat: 1080-line is only available in interlaced mode over the air.
There IS a 1080p mode, and it IS available to wired devices, but it takes more than a single TV channel of bandwidth, and thus cannot be broadcast.

I have monitors that go higher than that.
But you said almost any monitor would go voer that. I've got 3 relatively recent ones here that won't.

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And interlaced modes are HALF the resolution that they appear to be. My 2048x1600 computer monitor could display a 2048x3200 interlaced signal, if such a thing existed.
I know that.

As I said, 1080p is an option, it just can't be broadcast over the air.
It WON'T be carried on satellite or cable, because they're still resisting carrying any HD content.

So for TV watching, 1080i is as good as it gets.
Or 720p, depending on how you approach it.

But for gaming, movies, hijacking your DTV for use as an f'ing huge PC monitor, you can run up to 1080p.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: paigeoliver on September 19, 2005, 06:40:38 pm
Also, you might want to realize that I HATE interlaced signals with a passion. It hurts my eyes. I watch almost everything on non-interlaced displays because of it.

I used to have a Mr. Driller 2 jamma board, the game was interlaced, it drove me nuts. You could turn it off, but then the game looked terrible.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JB on September 19, 2005, 07:12:22 pm
Also, you might want to realize that I HATE interlaced signals with a passion. It hurts my eyes. I watch almost everything on non-interlaced displays because of it.
Ah.

In my experience, it has more to do with the display than the encoding.

My VGA monitor at 60 Hz flickers way too much to even be considered for use at that refresh.
But a TV is no problem whatsoever.


Admittedly, I don't have much comparison between interlaced and progressive scan that's really relevant.  Just TV VS VGA, which isn't fair.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 20, 2005, 04:49:50 pm
(http://www.pspupdates.com/psp_2Dtv.1_thumb.jpg)

Here
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Otraotaku on September 20, 2005, 09:45:29 pm
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And Advent Children came out just the other day in Japan. 'S like 3 days old.

so thats why theres no subbtitled version on my desktop... ummm nope.....  ;D


Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on September 20, 2005, 10:07:28 pm
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And Advent Children came out just the other day in Japan. 'S like 3 days old.

so thats why theres no subbtitled version on my desktop... ummm nope.....  ;D




If i were to somehow find a subbed version of Advent Children..... I would probably say it's freaking awesome.   :angel:
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 21, 2005, 07:28:12 am
Movie Torrent (http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3382031.torrent/Final.Fantasy.VII.DVDRip.XviD-BiEN_(Advent_Children).3382031.TPB.torrent)

Subtitle files (http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3382216.torrent/English_Sub_for_Final.Fantasy.VII.DVDRip.XviD-BiEN.3382216.TPB.torrent)
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Otraotaku on September 21, 2005, 09:05:26 am
Imesh ,is my freind... hehe ^.<

(what you say your computer hasnt been shut down in over 3 weeks!!!!  ??? )
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on September 21, 2005, 09:44:32 am
Movie Torrent (http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3382031.torrent/Final.Fantasy.VII.DVDRip.XviD-BiEN_(Advent_Children).3382031.TPB.torrent)

Subtitle files (http://static.thepiratebay.org/downloadtorrent/3382216.torrent/English_Sub_for_Final.Fantasy.VII.DVDRip.XviD-BiEN.3382216.TPB.torrent)


way to ruin the sarcastic tone of my post  :P

It really is a great film though, I've seen it twice already.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Otraotaku on September 21, 2005, 04:25:09 pm
to tell ya the truth i havent been able to find a subtitled version as of yet... lol but i have seen it once in japanese... kore sore, (this, that) Oui's! (hey) and blah blah, are, (that over there) grrr cant understand alot.... errrrr...

but the movie itself is a work of art...


im gonna have to bring it to school to show it off to some freinds on my PDA... ^.<....
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: shmokes on September 21, 2005, 07:02:19 pm
You haven't been able to find a subtitled version!!!?

Hoagie_one provided links to the movie and subtitles like three posts ago.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: JoyMonkey on September 30, 2005, 07:28:05 pm
*GASP* $120 (http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/zz-psp-2tv)!
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on October 01, 2005, 11:56:11 am
*GASP* $120 (http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/zz-psp-2tv)!

That's exactly what I said when I saw the price.  It's a neat little gadget, but no thanks.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Samstag on October 02, 2005, 09:48:08 am
Ha!

That's not a video adaptor.  That's a camera.  You're paying $130 for a cheap camera and a box that clips on top of the PSP.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on October 02, 2005, 11:25:44 am
Ha!

That's not a video adaptor.  That's a camera.  You're paying $130 for a cheap camera and a box that clips on top of the PSP.


what??

Did you even look at how that thing works?  It attaches to the BACK of the PSP... what exactly is it taking a picture of?  It's obviously tapping into the video feed of the PSP, otherwise how could you get the picture.

Doesn't seem like a camera to me.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: shmokes on October 02, 2005, 03:33:50 pm
I think Samstag looked at the picture and thought that the PS2 controller in the foreground was the device in question here.  Of course he didn't realize that it's just a PS2 controller, instead thinking it was a video camera, filming the screen of the PSP and sending the signal to the TV.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: knuttz on October 03, 2005, 03:36:59 am
what??

Did you even look at how that thing works?  It attaches to the BACK of the PSP... what exactly is it taking a picture of?  It's obviously tapping into the video feed of the PSP, otherwise how could you get the picture.

Doesn't seem like a camera to me.

Take a look at this picture.  I think it is some type of camera too.  See the way their included faceplate has to be used for this to work.
Also refer to this link http://www.modchipman.com/psp-tv-p-597.html
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on October 03, 2005, 11:04:43 am
I still don't see how it could be a camera... at all.

Your link has a picture that shows the fingerboard connector... that is what the faceplate adds.  They need the faceplate so that they can interface the PSP to their device.

I just don't see how it can be a camera... where is it taking a picture?  There is NOTHING in front of the screen, and the faceplate does not go BEHIND the LCD.. so how would they take video of it?  To take a picture of the screen, you'd obviously need a head on view of the screen.  The PSP2TV attaches to the back of the PSP, and there would have to be something in front of the LCD to take a picture.

I still say it's not a camera.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: shmokes on October 03, 2005, 04:11:17 pm
Yeah...I think the new faceplate just gives them the space they need for their hardware.  If the faceplate actually had some kind of camera or scanner built in on top of the LCD screen it would render your PSP unplayable (cos it would be blocking it).
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: MameMaster! on October 03, 2005, 05:18:05 pm
....a camera would be way too elaborate for this thing. I'm guessing it somehow taps into the video signal as it's going into the PSP screen (hense the need for a special faceplate) as others have already guessed.

Hmmm....this is a neat gadget....but does it really serve a purpose?

I guess it could be considered a super small/portable PS2 & DVD player....but realistically for movies you have to either use UMDs which are expensive or save movies to the memory stick which don't look that great on the small screen as it is (at least the software I'm using to convert to PSP).

If you're really determined to use the PSP on TV....it seems to work (at least according to the photos); but a brand new PS2 for $150.00 seems like a better idea....that's pretty small too!

Hmmm.......not sure what to make of this short of it being a novelty.

I'll wait until it's $40. bucks.

The MameMaster!
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: SirPoonga on October 03, 2005, 06:24:41 pm
The people at X-Play (on G4 tv) were getting alot of emails from people asking why they weren't reviewing PSP games.  They couldn't display video without a developer kit.  They must have got their hands on something because they started reviewing games.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Effayy on October 04, 2005, 12:49:32 pm
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Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: pointdablame on October 04, 2005, 06:32:53 pm
I agree that it makes the UMD format a BIT more useful.. but to do so, you have to spend $120.  This PSP2TV will never be hugely popular if previous add-on sales figures give us an indication, so how much does it REALLY help UMDs? 

Not much if you ask me... I'd still rather buy the DVD, play it in everything that plays DVDs, and convert it for a memory stick on my PSP.  UMD movies are useless IMHO.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: shmokes on October 05, 2005, 12:07:22 am
What's the quality like of UMD?  Will it blow up well?  Is the resolution the same as a DVD?  With good compression a UMD is plenty big to make a movie look good on a big screen, but are the Studios assuming they will only be played on portable devices and not bothering?
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Hoagie_one on October 05, 2005, 10:46:37 am
UMD's use a low loss mpeg-4 encoding process.  It's vry nice.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: Samstag on November 03, 2005, 10:56:46 am
Ha!

That's not a video adaptor.
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: gonzobrian on November 04, 2005, 04:13:13 pm
Here is another example of one
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3706&&lsaid=219793
that requires no modification of your PSP.
It uses "a precision lens and mirror system at the top, capturing the image and light, in a similar way a scanner or camera would. It then converts it into a video signal that is sent through video leads going from the adapter to your TV"
Title: Re: PSP movies going to a regular TV possible??
Post by: MameMaster! on November 11, 2005, 03:21:05 pm
there's a great article the new psp to tv gadget (that's mentioned in this thread) with video,  photos and other neat stuff.

Basically it was a complex (but not mind numbing) install......and they had mixed feelings about the usability of the product....

As a modder I'm tempted.....but the results don't seem to be worth the effort....

http://gear.ign.com/articles/666/666034p1.html