Build Your Own Arcade Controls Forum
Main => Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Forum => Topic started by: Blitzburgh on August 08, 2005, 10:35:37 am
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About 6 months ago, I came across a customer that had an mp3 jukebox complete with coin op mechanism. Am I searching in the right place for one?
Thanks, Mike
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there's a whole list on the very first POST. Go try some out.
"Jukebox software list"
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I apologize, you must not have been able to read the part of my sentence that said "coin op".
Like as in vending, collecting money, customer based in a commerical entity. Not software that runs on your desktop. i.e. MusicMatch, etc.
Thanks, Mike
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Look through replay.
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I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for. However, you can convert an old Rowe over to an mp3 Juke:
http://www.cdadapter.com/cd100mp.htm
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I apologize, you must not have been able to read the part of my sentence that said "coin op".
Like as in vending, collecting money, customer based in a commerical entity. Not software that runs on your desktop. i.e. MusicMatch, etc.
Thanks, Mike
Basically they are on the whole PC based with some software and a coin mech aqttached. Like the guy said look through the list, mine supports coin mechs BTW :p if you can get it to work LOL
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I apologize, you must not have been able to read the part of my sentence that said "coin op".
Like as in vending, collecting money, customer based in a commerical entity. Not software that runs on your desktop. i.e. MusicMatch, etc.
Thanks, Mike
is it just me or does it seem like this guy doesn't want any help?
he doesn't want software that runs on a computer and it's supposed to collect money and play mp3s....hmmm....the legalities of playing mp3s for money has been beaten to death. most of the mp3 jukebox software that I've used has an option to have a coin switch. wire it up. it's not rocket science. don't come in being an ass. oh but then it's software that runs on your desktop....WTF!? ???
Allroy
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He wants something he can legally put in a commercial location.
Like that bose system that Peale liked?
KenLayton said it stinks ;D
http://www.touchtunes.com/
<edit> BTW, we mostly build our own around here. You'll probably get more suggestions elsewhere.
Art
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In the USA a jukebox that plays MP3's, downloads, or has a hard drive inside and used in a commercial environment is illegal. Only the major jukebox manufacturers Rowe, Rockola/Antique Apparatus, NSM, Wurlitzer, and eCast are officially licensed to use this technology in commercial jukeboxes. They pay big money to all the performing rights organizations.
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It's a different story here in the uk ;)
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Yeah Ken.... they charge big money too. However, the Rowe wall box just came down in price. Now you can pick one up for what a Berkeley costs. It certainly just became more appealing.
What I'm wondering is... putting one of these mp3 players in a Rowe, and downloading the music from a site where you pay for the songs. It wouldn't be unlawfully duplicated because I paid for it, so everyone got their chunk. Throw a jukebox license on it of course. Or, I wonder how much hair pulling would be involved in getting permission to duplicate it. Even if you still had to buy the Cd's and load them to the mp3, the maintenance would be minimal. No more, reader, mech, mech controller, or decoder to worry about. Sounds good on paper anyway....hehehe.
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Yeah Ken.... they charge big money too. However, the Rowe wall box just came down in price. Now you can pick one up for what a Berkeley costs. It certainly just became more appealing.
What I'm wondering is... putting one of these mp3 players in a Rowe, and downloading the music from a site where you pay for the songs. It wouldn't be unlawfully duplicated because I paid for it, so everyone got their chunk. Throw a jukebox license on it of course. Or, I wonder how much hair pulling would be involved in getting permission to duplicate it. Even if you still had to buy the Cd's and load them to the mp3, the maintenance would be minimal. No more, reader, mech, mech controller, or decoder to worry about. Sounds good on paper anyway....hehehe.
Yeh but the jukebox manufacturer still has their hands in your pocket. The juke manufacturer gets 10 cents of every dollar going into the downloading jukebox as a "copyright" or license fee (can you say mafia?). The juke must be connected to the internet at all times or it shuts itself down and will not do a thing ("Call serviceman-Out of order" is on the display). Rowe may have lowered the price to purchase the downloader box, but the other 'fees' and their hand in your pocket are still there.
What you are proposing is still considered a "Public Performance" of copyrighted music that you DON'T HAVE PERMISSION FOR in the legal sense. You would be using technology that only the major jukebox manufacturers are legally licensed to do. That's why they have litterally paid millions of dollars for the exclusive rights to do so.
I have installed several brand new Rowe Berkely CD jukeboxes for a local chain of pizza joints. They run very well and are easy to install. These locations chose a cd juke because they like to buy their own discs and they pay a simple $300 a year per juke copyright license fee to the Jukebox License Office. Nobody has their hands in the owner's pocket with cd jukes.
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ROFLMAO!!! (can you say mafia?).... that's funny Ken.
I like the Berkeley, and Storm myself. Very nice boxes. I have a couple of Berks & a bunch of Storms. I agree...they are easy to hang and set up. A lot better than Rowe's first attempt at a wallbox... that I like to call the "Lung Box". It would have been almost as easy to put a bracket on a CD-100 and hang it on the wall...hehehe.
As far as that Pizza Chain, if it's a chain they should buy the Juke License's under one name (if they aren't already). That would save them some cash.
Wouldn't the "Public Performance" part of it be covered by the Juke License?
I understand what you are saying about them being in my pocket, trust me on that one. The big problem I have is with customers wanting them.