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Title: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: rchadd on August 05, 2005, 06:55:38 pm
just been looking at the info page on the Jpac as i am going to by a jamma wired cocktail table and i want to mame it.

http://www.ultimarc.com/jpac.html

At bottom page it says following. Why is this? Surely i can wire up the coin door switch to the J Pac like i did with an I Pac in my othe cab?

Important Legal Note.

For legal reasons we must state here that the J-PAC is not designed to be used in revenue-earning applications where a credit mechanism is used. The J-PAC contains no specific interface functionality for any credit device. Although it has inputs which connect to the JAMMA coin signals, these are designed such that activating a switch connected to them causes the MAME "coin" keycodes (5 or 6) to be sent. These are designed to be used with panel pushbuttons not coin doors or note acceptors.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Q*Bert_OP on August 05, 2005, 06:57:46 pm
For legal reasons, they say that, but you can certainly wire it up to a coin switch, as long as you do not use your mame machine for profit :police:
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: NoOne=NBA= on August 05, 2005, 06:58:17 pm
You can wire it up, but you can't use it in a revenue-generating environment.
It hasn't passed all the government required tests to be used in "official" gaming/gambling devices.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: RayB on August 05, 2005, 07:33:20 pm
It's just MAME trademark BS. Ignore it. (and sounds like you have ALOT of reading to do, if you really want to know what this is all about :-D )

Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Tailgunner on August 05, 2005, 09:17:47 pm
Actually that disclamier was up at Andy's site long before the MAME trademark issue developed.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: RayB on August 05, 2005, 09:26:32 pm
Actually that disclamier was up at Andy's site long before the MAME trademark issue developed.

Why? His device should be perfectly legal to use in a for-pay setting. Let's say I designed a new game using the PC platform, and then I decided to use JPACs and then had 1000 machines made... That's 1000 JPACs sold. Why would he object to that?

Wouldn't every part of a PC then need such a disclaimer?
Anyways.....
 :-\
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Tailgunner on August 05, 2005, 09:40:17 pm
Why? His device should be perfectly legal to use in a for-pay setting. Let's say I designed a new game using the PC platform, and then I decided to use JPACs and then had 1000 machines made... That's 1000 JPACs sold. Why would he object to that?

Anyways.....
 :-\


The same reason a bathroom scale says "Not legal for trade" on the readout.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Dervacumen on August 05, 2005, 09:54:18 pm
Red Tape. :P

If you are serious about using it as a part of a for profit venture, you should see your lawyer.

It's just that it hasn't been approved by the US Gov as a "fair" gaming (gambling) piece of work.  So don't go opening a casino with it.

Derv
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: RandyT on August 05, 2005, 10:46:44 pm
It's really none of my business, but....I don't think anyone has it right yet,,,,


Email Andy if your really want to know.  It's kind of silly to theorize when you can just ask him :)


RandyT
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Dervacumen on August 05, 2005, 11:29:58 pm
And RandyT gets the golden ring.
Elegant amswer.
Derv
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: RayB on August 06, 2005, 01:22:30 am
Heh
 ;D
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Havok on August 06, 2005, 01:36:45 am
It's really none of my business, but....I don't think anyone has it right yet,,,,


Email Andy if your really want to know.  It's kind of silly to theorize when you can just ask him :)


RandyT

So, if someone does, make sure to ask if it's ok to post the answer here - because inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Arcade82 on August 06, 2005, 11:15:06 pm
heh I would soooo open up an arcade with just mame machines in it if i had the money
everyone who walks in could go to any machine and choose any game
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: KDOG on August 06, 2005, 11:24:14 pm
And you would have a team of lawyers at you door waiting to attack.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: Arcade82 on August 06, 2005, 11:25:41 pm
nah no one would care
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: AceTKK on August 07, 2005, 12:52:59 am
I guarantee you every other local arcade / movie theater / fun center would care.  You would be shut down faster than you could say "copyright infringement".

-Ace-
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: pointdablame on August 07, 2005, 01:11:15 am
nah no one would care

he says as he's dragged to federall pound me in the --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- prison.
Title: Re: J Pac Legal Notice
Post by: AlanS17 on August 07, 2005, 01:50:44 am
nah no one would care

he says as he's dragged to federall pound me in the --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- prison.
... and I'd be the one making the "anonymous phonecall".