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Title: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 02:45:30 am
OK, due to popular demand, here's my tried and true method of hacking analog arcade controls to a Dual Strike interface.

(http://www.rmfx.com/images/Dual_Strike.jpg)

First, you need a MS Dual Strike.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: johnpurs on March 20, 2002, 04:50:53 am
Great write up!  :D I already hooked mine to a gameport via Jude's Star Wars Hack but this seems easier.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: enemyace on March 20, 2002, 07:17:19 am
1UP, you be one hackin' mofo. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. These write-ups are really great.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: SirPoonga on March 20, 2002, 09:27:16 am
Great writeup, This needs to go on byoac site.

Got pics of the yoke?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Dave_K. on March 20, 2002, 09:37:41 am
So is the usb mouse mode through software emulation only?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Lilwolf on March 20, 2002, 09:54:18 am
Bump!  

(yes this needs to be added to the examples Saint!)

And I just won my first analog joystick on ebay yesterday!!!

BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE BID!!!

$175 happs flight stick for 10 bucks!  And I think I might spend the cash to get the right hand handle for 20 from happs and I will be happy!

btw, a GREAT place to get a DualStrike is on ebay.  They are going between 5 - 9 bucks without shipping.

btw, 1UP, you might consider adding one more thing to your writeup (since I believe you mentioned it worked before) is add the hotswap ability (it does work right?).  Best part about the hotswap, is if you ignore the buttons, then you can get both on a 9pin serial plugs.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 12:42:21 pm
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btw, 1UP, you might consider adding one more thing to your writeup (since I believe you mentioned it worked before) is add the hotswap ability (it does work right?).
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: SirPoonga on March 20, 2002, 02:34:18 pm
Those wires underneith the left/right pot wires are the buttons on the left part of the gamepad?
Mame should see those buttons on the right hand normally, right?  Through DirectInput?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 02:54:32 pm
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Those wires underneith the left/right pot wires are the buttons on the left part of the gamepad?
Mame should see those buttons on the right hand normally, right?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: SirPoonga on March 20, 2002, 03:19:24 pm
Yeah, I know, just asking.
I like the idea of the positional gun.  Does it aim correctly at all areas of the screen?  even where most joysticks have a "deadzone"?

Urebel showed my hte directx code in mame that I can set the deadzone to 0.  if I can hacka  positional gun (fancy joystick) to mame then I could get it to work with all mame games by acting like a mouse too.
Anyway, I'd rather have the act labs solution if they make it.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Lilwolf on March 20, 2002, 03:29:27 pm
btw, for hotswapping, I was more wondering if you had it working with just the pots swapped out.

so I can plug in an analog joystick on one control panel, a starwars yoke on one, and maybe a omega race controller on the last... with only one DualStrike!

Have you tested/tried this?  
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: SirPoonga on March 20, 2002, 03:39:45 pm
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btw, for hotswapping, I was more wondering if you had it working with just the pots swapped out.

so I can plug in an analog joystick on one control panel, a starwars yoke on one, and maybe a omega race controller on the last... with only one DualStrike!

Have you tested/tried this?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 03:47:52 pm
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btw, for hotswapping, I was more wondering if you had it working with just the pots swapped out.

so I can plug in an analog joystick on one control panel, a starwars yoke on one, and maybe a omega race controller on the last... with only one DualStrike!

Have you tested/tried this?
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: SirPoonga on March 20, 2002, 04:11:01 pm
I hope Act Labs realize they need more than a trigger on those guns.

Yeah, recoil and freedom of movement would be awesome.

I hope they can do dual gun support.  maybe they know somethig about dual mice hacks in win2k/xp.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 05:05:07 pm
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I hope Act Labs realize they need more than a trigger on those guns.


You could always get one of those small red pushbottons at Radio Shack and run an extra couple of wires to your IPAC.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 20, 2002, 05:14:26 pm
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I like the idea of the positional gun.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Agent Davis on March 20, 2002, 05:46:37 pm
Great write-up man!

Hey 1UP, with your permission I'd like to add this or link to it on mamecab.com.  Email me at agentdavis@mamecab.com

Massive update to mamecab.com coming soon!

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Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on March 21, 2002, 06:10:19 pm
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Great write-up man!

Hey 1UP, with your permission I'd like to add this or link to it on mamecab.com.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Agent Davis on March 21, 2002, 06:26:38 pm
Ok, just let me know.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Billabong on March 21, 2002, 07:23:41 pm
Just want to add 'nice write up'. :)
That picture is mint!

Later,
Billabong
Title: Have photos of disassembled DS pad if you need em'
Post by: Johnny the MAMEr on March 21, 2002, 08:09:10 pm
Hey 1UP, If you are planning a web site on your DS hack you might be able to make use of a few pix I have taken of the pre-hacked, disassembled DS pad. Just e-mail me if you need them sugg3d@comcast.net

Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: Lilwolf on April 08, 2002, 10:38:57 am
bumping back to the top.  This needs a link on the side Saint  :)
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on April 08, 2002, 10:49:36 am
Don't worry, my site is going online this week!  All writeups will be included.  I'll post a message when everything's ready.
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on April 14, 2002, 11:04:13 pm
This writeup has been updated at http://www.1UParcade.com!
Title: Question: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: tron on April 29, 2002, 10:18:03 am
I finally got my SW yoke, didn't have the wrench to open it, looking at the wires...
I'm trying to figure out which wire does what without opening the yoke.

Black grounds go to connector/plug and connect as one black wire. Other wires come are separated(SW buttons).
There are nevertheless two red wires that interconnect in this plug, other one comes from (visible) left/right pot, I was wondering if the other one is from up/down pot?...and why they are merged as one...Can I connect this red wire for either one of DS pcb "pot red inputs", or do I have to connect them as separate?

More importantly, can I break something if I put SW  wires in wrong places of DS pcb (not counting common/ground) ?

Thank you for your writeup 1UP!
Title: Re: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: tron on April 30, 2002, 03:58:23 am
Well?
Title: Re: Question: Analog to Dual-Strike USB writeup!
Post by: 1UP on May 02, 2002, 12:56:03 am
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I finally got my SW yoke, didn't have the wrench to open it, looking at the wires...
I'm trying to figure out which wire does what without opening the yoke.

Black grounds go to connector/plug and connect as one black wire. Other wires come are separated(SW buttons).
There are nevertheless two red wires that interconnect in this plug, other one comes from (visible) left/right pot, I was wondering if the other one is from up/down pot?...and why they are merged as one...Can I connect this red wire for either one of DS pcb "pot red inputs", or do I have to connect them as separate?

More importantly, can I break something if I put SW