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Title: Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: OSCAR on December 06, 2002, 04:29:09 pm
I've put together a page that explains how to connect a spinner and trackball to a single USB mouse interface, as I have had quite a few email requests for info on this.

http://www.oscarcontrols.com/DPDTswitch.shtml.

This "How-To" doesn't go into actually hacking a mouse, as that is already well documented on Minwah and BobA's webpages (which are linked to on my page).  Let me know if there are any questions or if something isn't clear.


Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: RacerX on December 06, 2002, 05:51:12 pm
That's why you da man!  You see a need and fill it!

 ;D
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: Tiger-Heli on December 07, 2002, 10:08:06 pm
First class write-up, as usual, OSCAR.

Quick question.  I notice you mention +5V and GND wires connecting to the PC Power Supply.  I was hoping that a single trackball could connect to the USB interface and use the USB port for power.  Will this work or do I need a separate +5V source?

Thanks again!!!
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: OSCAR on December 07, 2002, 10:37:34 pm
Yes, it should be possible.  I say should because I didn't actually try that, but based on my previous experience with USB mice, the +5V for each optic board needs to be taken from different places on the mouse if it isn't taken directly from the incoming power source on the USB cable.

I used one of my mouse boards in my example, and since the USB mice boards I sell take the +5V from the original phototransistor locations, if taken from those locations they don't give enough "juice" to power simultaneous optic boards.  I take the power from those locations because it makes the wire harness simpler with fewer connections.  So, rather than re-hack a mouse to power all three boards, I opted to source the power directly from the PC power supply.

I realize that for your specialized controllers the method I used isn't very desirable, but my example is geared more towards a typical MAME cab setup.

When I get a few spare minutes, I'll rewire the harness to see if it will work all from the mouse.
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: isugoat on December 08, 2002, 12:33:45 am
i'm clueless on the whole trackball/spinner scene.  would this hack work as well as an optipac?  I'm gonna grab a trackball and throw it in a panel over xmas and i want to get the most accurate recreation of a golden tee machine.
are there any major advantages for either the optipac or mouse hack(aside from havin to do the hack yourself)? is one more accurate?
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: OSCAR on December 08, 2002, 01:17:17 am
The Opti-PAC is seen by Windows as a standard mouse and uses the same native drivers as a generic mouse.

I've had trackballs connected to both an Opti-PAC and a mouse, and I can't tell the difference between them performance-wise.

The Opti-PAC is an out-of-the box solution that allows multiple devices to utilize a single port, but it is still seen by your system as a mouse.
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: isugoat on December 08, 2002, 01:33:35 am
ah, thats kinda what i was assuming.  thanks for verifying
Title: Re:Connecting both a trackball & spinner to single mouse
Post by: OSCAR on December 08, 2002, 07:23:43 pm
Yes, it should be possible.  I say should because I didn't actually try that, but based on my previous experience with USB mice, the +5V for each optic board needs to be taken from different places on the mouse if it isn't taken directly from the incoming power source on the USB cable.

I modified my wire harness to take the +5V and GND directly from the mouse board and it works just fine.  I soldered a wire to back of the mouse board right where the +5V comes in from the USB cable connection to the PC.

Let me know if you have more questions.  :)