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Title: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: cornbread on May 25, 2005, 07:39:42 pm
I am selling a 39 in 1 arcade cabinet on ebay, Ultracade had my auction pulled off.  I see these games for sell all the time?  I was told it was a copyright problem?  Has anyone else had this problem?
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: Timstuff on May 25, 2005, 07:49:53 pm
Ultracade is the problem. David Foley is the product of a blasphemouse affair between his mother and Satan.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: Tahnok on May 25, 2005, 08:20:09 pm
It depends, are you selling a PC with the games already installed and no original disk/license for the person? Or are you just reselling some software normally available from a store with a cab?

If it is real software and you are buying it new for every cab, I don't see how there can be a problem.

I suggest getting advice from a real lawyer.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: CheffoJeffo on May 25, 2005, 08:32:13 pm
I am presuming that this was a cabinet with one of the "illegal" (e.g. unlicensed) 39-in-1 boards  ... if so, not much you can do ... except try to sell it on RGVAM ...

Cheers.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: danny_galaga on May 25, 2005, 08:36:05 pm
I am presuming that this was a cabinet with one of the "illegal" (e.g. unlicensed) 39-in-1 boards
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: spidermonkey on May 25, 2005, 09:13:59 pm
Yeah,it seems Foley has been working his greedy little butt off lately as there's almost no MAME cabs for sale on Ebay. If you do come across one it usually disappears before the end of the auction. Probably due to threats from Foley.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: MonitorGuru on May 25, 2005, 11:03:50 pm
What foley does is bad (cancelling anything Mame--legal or not), however what you were doing was worse.  The x-in-1 games are ALL illegal.

The only multi-games that are legal are the two Namco Classic Collections and Ms.Pac/Galaga combos.

The x-in-1's are nothing more than mame hacked into bios with a video adaptor board on some proprietary x86 processor board.  They are loaded with game roms from mame and they try to hide the mameness, but it's still emulation--it's still outright theft.

It has nothing to do with competing with Dave Foley and his little crusade. It is selling a product without licence from the original game manufacturers, no better than selling a PC with Mame and 39 mame roms included.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: Veinman on May 25, 2005, 11:22:54 pm
I'm not going to comment on legal vs not legal, but it seems to me that Ultracade has a lot of time on their hands if they bother to interfere with ebay auctions.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: sc1103 on May 25, 2005, 11:24:35 pm
I'm not going to comment on legal vs not legal, but it seems to me that Ultracade has a lot of time on their hands if they bother to interfere with ebay auctions.

Well they dont have to worry about answering questions on their forums  ;)
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: paigeoliver on May 26, 2005, 12:08:34 am
I do place the X-in-1 in a slightly different class than the JAMMA Multiwilliams. Neither is "legal" but the owners of the Williams IP don't seem to CARE, while Namco does care.

Namco is still idiotic, they missed the boat, those bootleg boards outsold their Reunion machines like 50 to 1. They would have been a lot better of financially just to release an affordable JAMMA board/kit. There would be no market for the bootlegs if people could get a genuine Namco board for only a little bit more.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: Popcorrin on May 26, 2005, 12:24:05 am
Cornbread, on two previous topics started by u, people have told you that these boards are pirated and illegal.  I don't see why you are questioning the fact that your auction got pulled?
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: NiN^_^NiN on May 26, 2005, 03:22:02 am
Screw him back email ebay saying he is selling your ULTRACADE machines and it's illegal.

Ebay doesn't seem to even look at the emails or ask for proof so give him back some of his own medicine  ;D
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: paigeoliver on May 26, 2005, 05:56:24 am
Just do this. Relist the sucker, avoid keywords like 39 in 1, Multicade or mame in the title.

Best to give it a title like "(Insert game name) with upgrade kit for extra games".

Then make the entire contents of your auction an IMAGE. One image, all your pictures, all your text, everything in the image. The automatic search robots will never pick it up, but your customers will be able to read it just fine.

DO NOT make it a featured auction.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: Stingray on May 26, 2005, 11:35:09 am
Ultracade is the problem. David Foley is the product of a blasphemouse affair between his mother and Satan.

Got it in one. We have a winner.

-S
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: ethous on May 26, 2005, 12:09:27 pm
Dam I wish I would have been that lucky :P
I was trying to sell a bootleg MS Packman board that was created long time ago and i put bootleg ebay pulled it.
Then i changed the phrasing that same dam bastard sorry for language got ebay to pull it...
I had my account susspended for a dam month.

Oh By the way I am new here I am from Ottawa Canada.

Just do this. Relist the sucker, avoid keywords like 39 in 1, Multicade or mame in the title.

Best to give it a title like "(Insert game name) with upgrade kit for extra games".

Then make the entire contents of your auction an IMAGE. One image, all your pictures, all your text, everything in the image. The automatic search robots will never pick it up, but your customers will be able to read it just fine.

DO NOT make it a featured auction.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: RayB on May 26, 2005, 01:44:47 pm
Yo Ethous.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: ChadTower on May 26, 2005, 02:13:16 pm
Namco is still idiotic, they missed the boat, those bootleg boards outsold their Reunion machines like 50 to 1. They would have been a lot better of financially just to release an affordable JAMMA board/kit. There would be no market for the bootlegs if people could get a genuine Namco board for only a little bit more.

Yes, but the profit margin on those boards is so much lower that they probably made as much if not more from the Reunion machines than they would have from 50x more X in 1 boards.
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: ethous on May 26, 2005, 02:27:57 pm
Hey Ray!!!!
Another board to add to my list ;D

Yo Ethous.

Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: HoopstarsGarage on May 26, 2005, 09:49:12 pm
Namco is still idiotic, they missed the boat, those bootleg boards outsold their Reunion machines like 50 to 1. They would have been a lot better of financially just to release an affordable JAMMA board/kit. There would be no market for the bootlegs if people could get a genuine Namco board for only a little bit more.

Yes, but the profit margin on those boards is so much lower that they probably made as much if not more from the Reunion machines than they would have from 50x more X in 1 boards.
So where can one purchase one of these boards..?
Title: Re: Ultracade had me pulled off ebay
Post by: paigeoliver on May 26, 2005, 10:20:01 pm
Well apparently cornbread has one. Ask him, maybe he will sell the board.