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Title: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 22, 2005, 06:06:49 am
Hi,

I have this Mini-Flipper , i'm looking for any information you can have.

The PCB inside is Pinball Action. There is no brand on the cab. Who did that? What year? Is it commun?

thanks

(http://www.atomicfe.com/divers/miniflip1_640.jpg)
(http://www.atomicfe.com/divers/miniflip2_640.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: paigeoliver on April 22, 2005, 06:22:23 am
Super Pinball by Electro-Plastics. Not common, it was a French company, there were several different versions of the game. Year is 1983.

You will probably NEVER find a board. Looks neat as it is though, I would keep it if I were you.

Similar games include Chicago Coin's Super Flipper, and I think there was one other, it is eluding me now, but the Electro-Plastics ones were the only ones in those teeny tiny shorty cabinets.

Or there is a mild chance that someone did a video conversion of a shorty type pinball, but I don't see any scoring stuff on the backglass.

Or this might also be a previously unknown game that just happened to be in a shorty pinball cabinet like the Electro-Plastic ones were. Yours is certainly different from the ones on their flyer, but has a few extreme similarities.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: paigeoliver on April 22, 2005, 06:34:26 am
Nope, I was wrong, it is a Rumatic "Mini Flipper", made in Spain, mid 80s. Almost no information out there other than lists of flyers people own, and a dead link for a photo of the game.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 22, 2005, 06:35:53 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: paigeoliver on April 22, 2005, 06:43:36 am
Read my updated message, "Mini Flipper" was made by Rumatic in Spain, about 1986. I can't find any info on it other than the name, manufacturer or year.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Stingray on April 22, 2005, 10:11:17 am
I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that. Very neat!

-S
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 22, 2005, 10:21:56 am
Yes, i'm very happy to have found that!   (in fact i played on this one (really this one not another cab like that) when i was 14 or 15 year old , and now it's mine!  :) )

Could be a nice cab for VPinMame...   but it is not my project.  I want to keep it like that.

Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on April 22, 2005, 10:50:02 am
(http://img225.echo.cx/img225/7295/miniflipperct7ur.jpg) (http://img225.echo.cx/img225/7295/miniflipperct7ur.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 22, 2005, 10:53:58 am
What is this model?  Is it the Rumatic one from Spain??  If yes, it seems very different than mine.



Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on April 22, 2005, 11:03:34 am
My understanding is that this is the Rumatic "Mini Flipper" from 1986
You can click the picture for a larger image.
There was also a Rumatic "Mini Flipper 2" in 1987 but I haven't seen a picture of it.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 22, 2005, 11:06:33 am
Yes, it is what i saw.  So mine couldn't be a Rumatic.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on April 22, 2005, 11:15:29 am
I'm thinking that it might be the Rumatic "Mini Flipper 2"

Here's the Electro Plastic ones that paigeoliver was talking about just for reference:

(http://img182.echo.cx/img182/3391/super1dv.jpg) (http://img182.echo.cx/img182/3391/super1dv.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: RayB on April 22, 2005, 11:16:50 am
Very cool! I'm jealous! :-D
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on April 22, 2005, 11:37:30 am
can you post a few closeup shots of the marquee, instructions, playfield etc?

also, look under the bottom and around the back for any kind of labels
maybe open the coin door and look around in there too

you might also try emailing these guys pinballspain@pinballspain.com
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: NY_in_TX on April 22, 2005, 12:12:07 pm
Nice Find!

If you happen to have time, some measurements would be great to get over to Jakobud.

I love the idea of a vpin cab in this shape.

How big is the monitor?

ny
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: paigeoliver on April 22, 2005, 02:40:09 pm
European game makers are famous for having all sorts of alternate cabinets and junk, and flyer pictures cannot always be trusted, many times the flyers go out way ahead of the games themselves, and the production models end up looking quite different than the final versions.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on April 22, 2005, 02:58:50 pm
None of the pictures that I have found have that curved cutout on the back
but the picture of the "Mini Flipper" does have a lot of similarities like those two round buttons on the front for example.
I'm thinking it's a Rumatic "Mini Flipper 2"
Maybe if he emails those guys I told him about they'll be able to verify what it is.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on April 24, 2005, 05:24:35 am
thanks to all.

I checked every where there is absolutly no sticker , sign  or information on the manufacturer.

The size is about 1m60 x 1m x 80cm  (i didn't really measured , it is just an approximation)

the screen could be 20 inch.   I will try to get real measures as soon as possible.

I'm going to email the guy at pinballspain.

thanks a lot.

Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Dire Radiant on April 24, 2005, 09:29:00 am
Does anyone else suddenly have an overwhelming urge to scratchbuild one of these for VP or is it just me?

*edit* Note to self - read WHOLE thread before inserting $0.02
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: RayB on April 24, 2005, 03:27:15 pm
I would, but then I'd add some joysticks, so it's more than just pinball.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Stingray on April 25, 2005, 01:40:31 pm
Does anyone else suddenly have an overwhelming urge to scratchbuild one of these for VP or is it just me?


Me too, and unlike a real pin, I could actually fit one of those into my gameroom.

-S
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Onji on April 25, 2005, 01:48:49 pm
Does anyone else suddenly have an overwhelming urge to scratchbuild one of these for VP or is it just me?

*edit* Note to self - read WHOLE thread before inserting $0.02

Same here! Please take and share the measurements!
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 01, 2005, 03:04:26 pm
I still don't know who manufacturer did this cab. I looked inside no more information.

Here somes pictures
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Tailgunner on May 01, 2005, 03:16:01 pm
Does anyone else suddenly have an overwhelming urge to scratchbuild one of these for VP or is it just me?


Me too, and unlike a real pin, I could actually fit one of those into my gameroom.

-S

Me too, and I can fit real pins in my gameroom.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Dire Radiant on May 01, 2005, 05:21:42 pm
On that note just think of the things you could do with a widescreen monitor and an LCD in the backglass.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 01, 2005, 05:58:09 pm
You could be interrested by this kind of things.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 01, 2005, 06:05:42 pm
Or this one!  :)


(http://www.splin.be/images/produits/virtual_pinball_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Tailgunner on May 01, 2005, 10:32:12 pm
I still like yours better, it actually looks like a pinball machine. The machine in your bottom pic has had a thread here before. I still think it's needs a backglass, and I'm curious to see how they hold up long term.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on May 01, 2005, 11:51:36 pm
Looks like there is some writing in these two places.
What does it say?


(http://img158.echo.cx/img158/9713/26cr.jpg)

(http://img158.echo.cx/img158/1989/18of.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 02, 2005, 02:42:53 am
It is just a stamp of the company who was renting this cabinet to Arcade.   It was ElectroFlip , it was a little company in my city.  Not a manufacturer.   Nice Try. ;)


Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Thenasty on May 05, 2005, 07:08:21 am
could you take a pic of how that plunger works.....
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 05, 2005, 12:04:27 pm
What Plunger?   ???



Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: IntruderAlert on May 05, 2005, 12:25:16 pm
It is just a stamp of the company who was renting this cabinet to Arcade.   It was ElectroFlip , it was a little company in my city.  Not a manufacturer.   Nice Try. ;)



maybe they have a record of where the purchased it from
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 05, 2005, 12:36:41 pm
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maybe they have a record of where the purchased it from


This company disapear 8 year ago...  :'(

Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Thenasty on May 05, 2005, 02:23:30 pm
What Plunger?
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: ChadTower on May 05, 2005, 02:31:29 pm
Those are some fancy red arrows.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: DaveDog on May 07, 2005, 11:17:06 pm
Those red arrows ARE fancy.

Did you use some kind of glow effect on them?
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 07, 2005, 11:48:19 pm
I'm seeing a pushbutton for the plunger (unless that's just some sort of start button).

I NEED PLANS FOR THIS THING!!!
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 08, 2005, 07:28:26 pm
Does anyone else suddenly have an overwhelming urge to scratchbuild one of these for VP or is it just me?

*edit* Note to self - read WHOLE thread before inserting $0.02

You're not alone. Suddenly I NEED the dimensions on this machine. It should be a snap, actually. I wonder why nobody though of this sooner! (Maybe they did and I just didn't notice.)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 09, 2005, 04:51:56 am
Yes, it is just a push button for the plunger. We can not really see it on the picture because it is black on right.

Unfortunaly i don't have time to make plan for this cab.   You should try to find one cab like that!  ;)

Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: RayB on May 09, 2005, 01:47:31 pm
What about a quick n dirty sketch with some of the general measurements?

ie:
 - Length, height and width of the main body.
 - Height from floor to top of the glass.
 - Height of the backglass box

I think that should be enough for people to design from...
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 09, 2005, 01:53:09 pm
Yes, it is just a push button for the plunger. We can not really see it on the picture because it is black on right.

Unfortunaly i don't have time to make plan for this cab.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: The Man on May 09, 2005, 02:48:36 pm
Unfortunaly i don't have time to make plan for this cab.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 10, 2005, 03:38:51 am
Ok, i 'm going to get few measurement for you, if i can tonight.  :)


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WHAT!?!?!  You're just joking right?


About what?

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Good news: I found a cab online.
Where?  The same?

Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 10, 2005, 09:20:02 am
The one I found was a mini pinball, but not the same game. It's just similar.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Lilwolf on May 10, 2005, 09:27:59 am
Let us know where the other cab is.  If your not going to drive... others might.

I would LOVE to have one... but have a feeling my wife wont let me do it.

But I have a dream of future pinball being finished with support for pinmame... Adding the eyetoy type head placement... To have the ultimate in home every - pinball pinball machine.
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Stingray on May 10, 2005, 12:02:02 pm
Actually I think it wouldn't be too tough to design one yourself. Start with the monitor and just build around that. The bottom part only needs to big enough to accomidate the monitor and coin door. Everything else can go behind the back glass. I'm seriously thinking about building one of these.

Anyone have a source for pinball legs and glass hardware?

-S
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 10, 2005, 02:24:47 pm
Actually I think it wouldn't be too tough to design one yourself. Start with the monitor and just build around that. The bottom part only needs to big enough to accomidate the monitor and coin door. Everything else can go behind the back glass. I'm seriously thinking about building one of these.

Anyone have a source for pinball legs and glass hardware?

-S

That's what I was thinking - legs and and glass retainers. The rest should be a snap!
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 10, 2005, 02:30:10 pm
Let us know where the other cab is. If your not going to drive... others might.

I would LOVE to have one... but have a feeling my wife wont let me do it.

But I have a dream of future pinball being finished with support for pinmame... Adding the eyetoy type head placement... To have the ultimate in home every - pinball pinball machine.

I know what I said about posting ebay auctions in the B/S/T forums (I don't like it), but this is different. It's from an ebay store...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13725&item=6176503210&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

The seller lives in South Carolina, and it looks like it's for local pickup only. They only want $350 for it, and I think it's working.

Anyone who buys this thing has to measure it off and post the dimensions. Deal?
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Stingray on May 10, 2005, 03:40:31 pm
I'd love to have more info on the "plunger" on that one.

If it were within 100 miles of Tulsa I'd be seriously considering it.

-S
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: APFelon on May 11, 2005, 07:22:55 am
Are you looking to set up a "plunger - like" switch, Stingray?

It might be pretty simple to hack one together. A regular plunger and spring assembly with a way to trigger an opto switch with a modded actuator on the plunger itself, with a rubber bumper stop of sorts to simulate hitting the "ball"... It might not be that hard to hack one together.

APf
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: Stingray on May 11, 2005, 11:45:09 am
Are you looking to set up a "plunger - like" switch, Stingray?

It might be pretty simple to hack one together. A regular plunger and spring assembly with a way to trigger an opto switch with a modded actuator on the plunger itself, with a rubber bumper stop of sorts to simulate hitting the "ball"... It might not be that hard to hack one together.

APf


Yeah, that's true. I hadn't thought of trying to hack a real one. Now I just need to find one to experiment with.

-S
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: AlanS17 on May 11, 2005, 12:13:48 pm
Wow... we must all have ADD. How off-topic can we get?  :)

(I know I've got ADD.)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: youki on May 17, 2005, 08:11:29 am
I finally find time to take some measurements.

I considered the cabinet as big rectangular boxes but it is not true. So it is just to give you an idea.

(http://www.atomicfe.com/divers/dimflip.jpg)
Title: Re: Need Information on this cab!
Post by: RayB on May 17, 2005, 09:26:50 am
Thank Youki!
 :D