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Title: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Thenasty on March 01, 2005, 04:46:39 pm
I'm trying Bittorent the first the first and I notice that as I downloa I'm also Uploading at the same time ? I'm I uploading to someone a bit of peices of the file of what i already downloaded ?
Notice also that my upload is quicker than my download. I mean I only got 50MB and already uploaded 500MB.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Buddabing on March 01, 2005, 06:02:04 pm
I'm trying Bittorent the first the first and I notice that as I downloa I'm also Uploading at the same time ? I'm I uploading to someone a bit of peices of the file of what i already downloaded ?
Notice also that my upload is quicker than my download. I mean I only got 50MB and already uploaded 500MB.

That's normal, and that's one thing that makes BitTorrent special.

Yes you are uploading to others while downloading.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: HaRuMaN on March 01, 2005, 07:15:12 pm
Get Azureus...  it allows you to throttle your upload speed, so you free up some bandwith for downloading. 
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Crazy Cooter on March 01, 2005, 07:25:54 pm
Bit Tornado is better IMO.  Azureus is sometimes frowned on.

You should upload more than you download.  It's good ediqutte ediquate sharing.  A 10:1 ratio seems quite high though.  And yes, you're uploading the piece(s) you've downloaded.  Now go watch that pr0n!
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: namzep on March 01, 2005, 07:27:41 pm
Definitely don't throttle it too low.  Usually cap your upload 10 to 15 kps below your actual upload availliable.  Just don't be the jerk who caps uploads at 1k - 2k.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: HaRuMaN on March 01, 2005, 07:48:59 pm
I cap mine at 40 k.

And why is Azureus frowned on?
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: SirPeale on March 01, 2005, 08:08:18 pm
If your ratio is like that (1:10) then you may have not opened the port on your router.  Do that for port 6881, and it should take right off.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Crazy Cooter on March 01, 2005, 08:14:39 pm
Some torrents are "capped" so people don't leech the files (download a pile and upload very little).
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: SirPeale on March 01, 2005, 09:12:48 pm
Wouldn't a closed port impede upload speed moreso than download?

You'd think so, but it's not the case.  I was having *terrible* download speeds, couldn't figure out why, until I asked on a Torrent site, and they asked about the port.  Thirty seconds after I opened the port, my download speeds went from 1-2k/s to 60-120k/s easy (depends on the torrent, seeds, etc of course)
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: HaRuMaN on March 01, 2005, 09:18:07 pm
Wouldn't a closed port impede upload speed moreso than download?

You'd think so, but it's not the case.  I was having *terrible* download speeds, couldn't figure out why, until I asked on a Torrent site, and they asked about the port.  Thirty seconds after I opened the port, my download speeds went from 1-2k/s to 60-120k/s easy (depends on the torrent, seeds, etc of course)

Same here, lol...
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Crazy Cooter on March 01, 2005, 11:01:16 pm
I never knew...
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Dexter on March 02, 2005, 05:42:40 am
I was using suprnova to search for torrents until they shut down, any tips on a good torrent search engine??
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Thenasty on March 02, 2005, 08:33:29 am
its been days and my download is not completed and now I get  a download error "cannot connect to tracker bla bla bla (10061) something. I'm stuck at 73%. Does this mean that the host(s) are all down an nobody wanted to share anymore cause they already finish getting it off me :) ? But mine is incomplete :(
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: SirPeale on March 02, 2005, 09:20:36 am
No, that means the tracker is offline.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Thenasty on March 02, 2005, 04:24:31 pm
No, that means the tracker is offline.

how long does it usually comes up again ?
Till now no work...Should I try to get another Torrent file for it or it would give me the same result.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: SirPeale on March 02, 2005, 06:58:57 pm
I don't know.  Perhaps you should visit the site referenced in the torrent file.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Thenasty on March 04, 2005, 11:11:24 am
after waiting for a day or 2, it finally continued and finally got to 100%. This reminds me when using the MODEM back in the days where my download would be finish days later  :D.

Whats the real benifit of using Torrent ? No one can track the downloads or something oppose to ABEM or MIRC ?

If the file was on ABEM, I would definetly get it there and maybe use Torrent if its the last option left.

Do you use Torrent alot or said choice ?
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: shmokes on March 04, 2005, 11:51:27 am
Personally, I think bit torrent and emule (which I use a lot more than bit torrent, especially now that suprnova is gone) is best used to get tons of stuff rather than one or two files at a time.  I'll go in and tell instruct it to down load TONS  of stuff at once.  Movies, games, music, pr0n, audiobooks...you name it.  It will have 50 -200 things waiting to be downloaded, and all of them downloading at various times.  At first, things move slowly, like you said.  But after a month or so it's like Christmas every day.  I'll take a look and I'll have five or more new files completed downloading (some of them I forgot were even coming).  10 minutes later I'll have another.  Next day, same thing, 5 or 10 new completed downloads.  I keep telling it to download new things as it occurs to me that there's something else I want, so this cycle continues and I keep getting lots of new stuff every day. 

For the first month, while everything's getting started, it you think, "This bit torrent thing isn't all it's cracked up to be."  But once you get established the files start pouring in (and they also start coming in faster because your upload status gets better and better the longer you use it and so on).

So yeah....absolutely open up your ports.  The difference is night and day.  But even after opening your ports it'll probably seem a lot slower than you want it to for the majority of files in the beginning.  Have a little patience for a month and then you'll never look back.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: SirPeale on March 04, 2005, 12:01:57 pm
Whats the real benifit of using Torrent ? No one can track the downloads or something oppose to ABEM or MIRC ?

It's a distributed filesharing protocol.  You're not downloading from a single source.  In this way, you're not limited to the bandwidth limitations of one person uploading to you, and it's *fast* once everything is configured correctly.  You can also stop/resume downloads at will.
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: Crazy Cooter on March 04, 2005, 08:03:40 pm
Whats the real benifit of using Torrent ? No one can track the downloads or something oppose to ABEM or MIRC ?

The downloads can be VERY traceable depending on the torrent.  Some sites retain statistics of how "well" you share even.

As an example of potential trouble (downloading movies):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/10/loki_down_mpaa/
""The operator of that site, Edward Webber, agreed to not only pay a substantial settlement with even greater financial penalties for any further such actions, but by Court Order must provide the MPAA with access to and copies of all logs and server data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal activities," the MPAA said in a statement."
Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: emdkay on March 10, 2005, 04:35:26 am
I also use Azureus.  Opening up ports 6881 and 6969 was a difference between night and day - much faster speeds with those ports opened.  Some nice search engines, in the order in which they kick ass:

http://www.torrentspy.com/

http://www.isohunt.com/

http://www.torrentreactor.net/

Title: Re: first time using Bitorrent (some q's)
Post by: HaRuMaN on March 10, 2005, 05:38:19 am
Also, get the PeerGuardian plugin for Azureus if you're using it.  It connects to a database everytime you start it up, and it prevents you from connecting to "bad" IPs.    :police: