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Title: * SlikStik Lighted Joystick Handles -New Photos- *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on February 25, 2005, 10:00:18 pm
All,

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Post by: tmasman on February 25, 2005, 10:06:59 pm
 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Drool....

Very nice.
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Post by: AmericanDemon on February 25, 2005, 10:20:33 pm
Awesome...  now if SS would only produce lit buttons in similar fashion.  ;)
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Post by: tetsujin on February 25, 2005, 10:26:42 pm
Will they work with T-Sticks?
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Post by: Helmgar on February 25, 2005, 11:02:22 pm
Will there be bat handle versions of these?
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Post by: cholin on February 25, 2005, 11:14:20 pm
Wonder how much theyll be and will they work with a T-stik plus?
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Post by: Witchboard on February 25, 2005, 11:22:06 pm
I notice that you have a multi-color cycling.  Are all the balls clear with different colored LEDs, or is that just the color cycling one?
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Post by: quarterback on February 25, 2005, 11:36:26 pm
Ooooohh baybeee.  RandyT might have taken a little too long to get those translucents online.  I was waiting for those but now I just might wait a couple weeks more for these!
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Post by: NY_in_TX on February 26, 2005, 12:07:53 am
oh so many choices!!  :o

Yeah, I second the question about if the balls are clear and the LED makes the color.  If the multicycling could be a multi-SELECTABLE that would be a no brainer. 

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and what's the pricing?  I suggest a discount for  everyone in this thread  ;D

ny
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Post by: Kremmit on February 26, 2005, 12:19:39 am
I don't see how these could work with T-sticks.  The wiring for the LED is almost certainly fed through a a hole at the base of the shaft- making it impossible to attach the 4/8 way switching device.

But does the P360 version fit the Wico leaf I sent you, Christian?
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Post by: quarterback on February 26, 2005, 12:23:46 am
And will these fit in the Ms Pac reunion?
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Post by: mahuti on February 26, 2005, 12:25:55 am
You can always cut your own e-clip grooves with a dremel. Takes about 10 minutes or less.
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Post by: quarterback on February 26, 2005, 12:27:24 am
You can always cut your own e-clip grooves with a dremel. Takes about 10 minutes or less.

Indeed.   I've actually thought about doing that with some leaf buttons I've got since they sit higher than the microswitch buttons on my cp
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Post by: SOAPboy on February 26, 2005, 01:03:35 am
i want lightup bats :(
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Post by: Kremmit on February 26, 2005, 01:31:20 am
Man, we're a hard bunch to satisfy, aren't we?  ::)

Hey, Christian- Thanks!  :angel:
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Post by: Will on February 26, 2005, 02:59:10 am
Damn it!!!!!!AWESOME!!!Must resist temptation!!






Screw it you win christian I mush have shiney joysticks now.......
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Post by: Fat_Trucker on February 26, 2005, 04:54:07 am
Its about time someone included a guide to fobbing off the wife in the FAQ.

There's so much great gear about and I'm running out of ways to covertly raid the joint account.
Title: Re: * New SlikStik Product *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on February 26, 2005, 05:18:27 am
Thanks to everyone for the support, these handles are simply awesome and the photos don
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Post by: MameMaster! on February 26, 2005, 03:15:50 pm
that is so freakin' cool!....nice job on those. One of the cooler mods for sure.

Good luck!...I'm sure they'll sell well.

MameMaster!  8)
Title: Re: * New SlikStik Product *
Post by: crashwg on February 26, 2005, 06:57:50 pm
I'm intrigued byt what you call an "anti-twist system".  Care to explain?  Or should I just wait till someone recieves one and can let us all know what the deal is...
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Post by: evlbeaver on February 26, 2005, 09:31:31 pm
Any pics of what they look like under normal room lighting?  My cocktail is in my living room and it not usually that dark  ;D
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Post by: KevSteele on February 26, 2005, 10:16:28 pm
Pretty lights...oooh....me like...


I'll definitely be getting a set of these for a review.

I like the "user selectable" idea - it would be cool to wire up a switch to change the joystick colors when the mood strikes.

Even as they are, though, it's a pretty cool idea.

Kevin
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Post by: 1UP on February 26, 2005, 11:39:59 pm
Light up everything I say!  I'm gonna have to start offering a free set of sunglasses with my cabs...  8) Ooooh....

I have one question:  How much extra space is needed beneath these puppies?  For wiring, anti-twist gizmo, etc?

Bling.
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Post by: Xiaou2 on February 27, 2005, 01:40:10 am

 While nice... theres something I dont get...

   Why anti-twist?

 All joysticks except trigger sticks allow free rotation I believe.
Reason ... is probably so that when you rotate in circles it dosnt burn
your hands up from the friction.   
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Post by: 1UP on February 27, 2005, 01:45:03 am
It sounds like the anti-twist feature allows the stick to turn, but not 360 degrees.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on February 27, 2005, 01:22:12 pm
crashwg,

  I don
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: whammoed on February 27, 2005, 02:53:44 pm
Very cool.
Since you already have the hollow shaft/anti twist thing figured out, how bout a trigger style replacement handle next?
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on February 27, 2005, 08:30:56 pm
Very cool.
Since you already have the hollow shaft/anit twist thing figured out, how bout a trigger style replacement handle next?
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: NIVO on February 27, 2005, 08:56:44 pm
Christian, sorry for the bad pun here, but these are SLICK! hehe
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Post by: SirPoonga on February 27, 2005, 09:15:52 pm
   2nd question: You are 100% correct, it is there to prevent the wire which powers the LED from becoming twisted and being disconnected. Additionally, it does not have a positive return to center, it
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on February 28, 2005, 02:31:07 am
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Post by: SOAPboy on February 28, 2005, 03:09:49 am


Bat versions are not planned due to issues with the bat itself having problems becoming fully illuminated from the led.


i might be able to solve that..

if it works, maybe a free pair for me? ^_^

PM me some time.. i can light up anything
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Xiaou2 on February 28, 2005, 06:52:16 am

  Opps... didnt think about the wires - but hey, it was late : )

   Anyways... One thing to note.   I believe these are Frosted.   
Not a bad idea.. but I personally would prefer clear.   However..
if one has a frosted stick... wouldnt one want frosted buttons to
match? 

  I would think that it would look odd without matching
buttons.

 and for the lighting... one could possibly develop a non spinning
mount for the leds - which still allow the shaft to spin.  Though...
I honestly am blank to this currently so maybe Im offbase about it.

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Post by: tetsujin on February 28, 2005, 09:47:35 am
I don't see how these could work with T-sticks.  The wiring for the LED is almost certainly fed through a a hole at the base of the shaft- making it impossible to attach the 4/8 way switching device.

That doesn't make it impossible.  The T-Stick Plus's toggle is attached by a regular threaded nut.  It doesn't cap the end of the shaft.

But I'm guessing the fact that these weren't made for the T-Stick makes them not work with the T-Stick...  :(
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Shape D. on February 28, 2005, 01:03:41 pm
*Sorry for thread jacking everyone*

Any word on the limited runs for your stainless steel joysticks yet?
Just curious I know it was originally supposed to be in January, I'm still looking forward for those.

*Once again, sorry for the thread jacking, but I can't get onto your forums for some reason.*
Title: Re: * New SlikStik Product *
Post by: Kremmit on February 28, 2005, 02:11:29 pm
I don't see how these could work with T-sticks.  The wiring for the LED is almost certainly fed through a a hole at the base of the shaft- making it impossible to attach the 4/8 way switching device.

That doesn't make it impossible.  The T-Stick Plus's toggle is attached by a regular threaded nut.  It doesn't cap the end of the shaft.

But I'm guessing the fact that these weren't made for the T-Stick makes them not work with the T-Stick...  :(

Yeah, that would do it too!  ;D
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Nannuu on March 02, 2005, 12:23:40 pm
So they are just white when it cab is turned off?  Do you plan on making any colored joys that light up?  If they where colored I'd buy 4 today.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Goz on March 28, 2005, 10:57:07 pm
Any update of when these will be available?

-Goz
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: The 80s Man on April 11, 2005, 10:12:31 pm
Do all of the SlickStick shafts have a hole clear through the shaft? Or only the new Lighted Joystick Handles?

 I would like to order a pair of regular (non lighted) Slick Stick Joystick handles but only if the shafts have a hole clear through so I can run wires through the shaft for an up coming project. Please let me know
I've looked at the official Slick Stick site FAQ page and the answer was not there.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: AmericanDemon on April 11, 2005, 10:33:29 pm
So they are just white when it cab is turned off?  Do you plan on making any colored joys that light up?  If they where colored I'd buy 4 today.

I second this comment.  Especially now that the translucent microswitch buttons are a go....  :: poor mans drool smiley ::
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Post by: Timstuff on April 12, 2005, 12:28:19 am
They look cool, but I prefer the feel of "Bat" style joysticks rather than "Ball" style joysticks. If a "Bat" variety comes along, I'd be very stoked about that. :)
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Post by: Goz on April 12, 2005, 12:31:57 am
Of course today I grew tired of waiting on these to become available and purchased some translucent versaballs from Randy.

Now I'll have to buy both...


-Goz


Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: paigeoliver on April 12, 2005, 12:46:38 am
I am a bit confused as to what these will REALLY work on.

Happ super handles fit the reunion base.

P360 and Wico handles interchange.

So why WOULDN'T these work with Reunion bases or Wico bases? If it works with the Happ Super and the P360 then it should work with the Reunion stick and the Wico sticks as well.

Yet Christian says they don't work with Reunion or Wico. Is that because he didn't bother to try  (perhaps because he doesn't actually understand how the assorted joystick types are related). Or is there something in the design that makes it fit one base in a class, but not another? Sometimes that happens (the Super Handle fits the reunion base, but the reunion handle would need another eclip spot to fit the super base).

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Post by: dan57fina on April 12, 2005, 11:18:33 pm
whammoed,

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Post by: gl.tter on May 12, 2005, 03:32:03 pm
They will be available with in the next 2 weeks in our online store, enjoy.

It's been a long 2 weeks... any news?
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Post by: Veinman on May 12, 2005, 04:23:18 pm
You mention that they can be powered from the I-PAC. Would this still be true if you were already powering a Druin rotary board from it?
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Post by: Thndrbug on May 15, 2005, 02:08:09 pm
I cant wait for these... they would go great in my second project.

any word on controling the multicycling ones?
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Post by: Kremmit on May 15, 2005, 02:51:25 pm
I cant wait for these... they would go great in my second project.

any word on controling the multicycling ones?

Unfortunately, there's no word on anything regarding these.  SlikStik announced them in February, and since then seems to have forgotten all about them.

Vaporware.
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on May 15, 2005, 05:57:18 pm
I cant wait for these... they would go great in my second project.

any word on controling the multicycling ones?

Unfortunately, there's no word on anything regarding these.
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Post by: Kremmit on May 16, 2005, 02:28:21 am
Christian-

It's just that you haven't posted about them since Feb 28, and folks've been asking with no response.  I was kind of hoping the vaporware comment would scare you out of hiding.  ;)

At any rate, I'm very glad to hear they're not dead. 
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Post by: RetroBorg on May 17, 2005, 01:39:24 am
All,

We have developed a custom anti-twist system that allows the joysticks to move freely with no restrictions during game play but limits them from turning 360 degrees and are available for Happ Competition, Super, Ultimate & Optical joystick bases.

Are these balltops compatiable with the Happs 49-way joysticks?

Is the 49-way based on Competition, Super, Ultimate or Optical joystick bases?
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Post by: Kev-in DFW on May 17, 2005, 06:56:07 am
oh so many choices!!
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Post by: Chris on May 18, 2005, 10:47:10 pm
Between these, the translucent buttons, and Budda's LED board, I doubt there will be an unlit panel to be found soon...
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Post by: Flinkly on May 18, 2005, 11:10:02 pm
i don't know about the rest of you guys with all this money, but i'm going old-skool and all my buttons will be unlit.  now before anyone says anything, i know that a few old games had lit buttons, but not any that i'm modeling my panels after. 

so there will be at least one unlit panel in america...
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Post by: JustMichael on May 19, 2005, 06:38:44 pm
Any frosted sticks?  I want to light them with different colors.
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Post by: AmericanDemon on May 19, 2005, 07:01:10 pm
they are all frosted.  They look white when unlit.
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on May 20, 2005, 02:24:46 pm
Any frosted sticks?
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Post by: UndeadMeat on May 25, 2005, 09:58:45 am
Wow, these look great! Pretty soon everything on my whole cabinet is going to light up, and I like it. Can't wait.

-UndeadMeat
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Post by: vib_ribbon on May 25, 2005, 11:02:09 am
what's with all these light-up devices lately??  ;D

whatever tickles your fancy i suppose... they do look rather neat.

what's next on the horizon? i guess we need better lit coin slots, or stools that light up when you sit on them.  ;)

carry on the good work.
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Post by: UndeadMeat on May 26, 2005, 08:31:24 am
what's with all these light-up devices lately??  ;D

whatever tickles your fancy i suppose... they do look rather neat.

what's next on the horizon? i guess we need better lit coin slots, or stools that light up when you sit on them.  ;)

carry on the good work.

I want air that lights up different colors as stuff moves through it and as you breath it in and out.  ;)

-UndeadMeat
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Post by: Tiger-Heli on May 26, 2005, 09:42:57 am
I want air that lights up different colors as stuff moves through it and as you breath it in and out.  ;)
Los Angeles has colored air - only comes in brownish, though.   ;D
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 11, 2005, 01:57:55 pm
FYI, these new sticks are now ready and will be available for sale this week, enjoy.
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Post by: JustMichael on July 11, 2005, 03:32:03 pm
I can't find them on the website yet.  Does this mean later this week?
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Post by: Scoobie on July 11, 2005, 03:36:18 pm
Any chance these will work with Ultimarc T-Stick Pluses, either now or in the future?
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Post by: NY_in_TX on July 11, 2005, 03:53:32 pm
price? 

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Post by: AlanS17 on July 11, 2005, 04:05:52 pm
Wow, I wish I wasn't too lazy to wiring the lighting...
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 11, 2005, 04:35:00 pm
JustMichael,

  They will be up this week on the website; we are just completing the web page for them.

Scoobie,

  Since the T-stick/plus has a screw in the end of the shaft, that disables our anti-twist system and they will not work like the other sticks. For that reason we will not be manufacturing our lighted sticks for them.

NY_in_TX,

  The handles will retail for an introductory price of $29.95ea for 30 days, after that they will go up slightly.

They will also work with the many led driver boards that are being released. They can be wired directly into the driver boards just like the lighted buttons and be included in the attract mode or other lighting sequences that customers can program.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: AlanS17 on July 11, 2005, 04:39:52 pm
Do the handles come with wiring and LED's? Or are we responsible for figuring that out on our own?
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 11, 2005, 04:57:06 pm
Do the handles come with wiring and LED's? Or are we responsible for figuring that out on our own?

AlanS17,

   Yes they come with everything. The handles have a self contained LED and anti-twist system. Plug and Play, nothing more.
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Post by: Buddabing on July 11, 2005, 04:59:33 pm

They will also work with the many led driver boards that are being released. They can be wired directly into the driver boards just like the lighted buttons and be included in the attract mode or other lighting sequences that customers can program.

Before you make a blanket statement like that I should ask some questions to make sure your your handles are compatible with my LED controller.

Do you have a resistor in series with the light source? What ohms?

What is the maximum current your LED can take?

I don't anticipate any problems. I am indeed supporting lit joysticks in my software. There are some limitations of my hardware, however.

Limitation #1: Current is limited to 24 milliamps maximum.
Limitation #2: The total voltage drop over your LED and any resistor is limited to 4.4 volts maximum.

These limitations may limit the value of your series resistor if you have one. For example, let's say the voltage drop over your LED is 2.4 volts, a typical value. Limitation #2 says that the voltage drop over your resistor, therefore, is less than 2.0 volts:

Ohm's law says V=IR. Limitation #2 says IR<V, or (24 mA)R < 2.0.
Solving for R gives R< 83 ohms.

For larger LED voltage drops, the series resistor must be even lower. The ultrabright white LEDs I use drop 3.2 volts. This makes IR < 0.8 volts, or R < 33 ohms.

Regards,
Buddabing
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: AlanS17 on July 11, 2005, 05:08:20 pm
Do the handles come with wiring and LED's? Or are we responsible for figuring that out on our own?

AlanS17,

Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 11, 2005, 05:24:06 pm

They will also work with the many led driver boards that are being released. They can be wired directly into the driver boards just like the lighted buttons and be included in the attract mode or other lighting sequences that customers can program.

Before you make a blanket statement like that I should ask some questions to make sure your your handles are compatible with my LED controller.

Do you have a resistor in series with the light source? What ohms?

What is the maximum current your LED can take?

I don't anticipate any problems. I am indeed supporting lit joysticks in my software. There are some limitations of my hardware, however.

Limitation #1: Current is limited to 24 milliamps maximum.
Limitation #2: The total voltage drop over your LED and any resistor is limited to 4.4 volts maximum.

These limitations may limit the value of your series resistor if you have one. For example, let's say the voltage drop over your LED is 2.4 volts, a typical value. Limitation #2 says that the voltage drop over your resistor, therefore, is less than 2.0 volts:

Ohm's law says V=IR. Limitation #2 says IR<V, or (24 mA)R < 2.0.
Solving for R gives R< 83 ohms.

For larger LED voltage drops, the series resistor must be even lower. The ultrabright white LEDs I use drop 3.2 volts. This makes IR < 0.8 volts, or R < 33 ohms.

Regards,
Buddabing

Buddabing,

  Thanks for the information. I have listed the LED info below;

We use super bright LEDs and have pre tested them at 2.0v - 3.5v / 20mA with no issues. The current setup in use uses a 100 ohm resistor which when tested on a 5v source provides more than enough power.

I did not name the exact led driver boards in my previous post, but if yours will not work with the above specs please let me know and I will exclude it from any forward statements.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Toonces on July 16, 2005, 03:03:35 pm
Ok, the site says get ready to order them when they are released on 7/16/2005. I waited for 2 hours at 12:01 last night while getting my son the new Harry Potter book and the link to buy never showed up on the site.  Where are they?  I'm ready now! :laugh:

At least there aren't 2,000 other people dressed in various arcade costumes waiting in line before me. Or maybe there are.....
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 16, 2005, 03:31:35 pm
They are now available.
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: JustMichael on July 16, 2005, 05:42:37 pm
So where is the video of the color morphing stick?
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 16, 2005, 08:02:50 pm
So where is the video of the color morphing stick?

  I did have a small QuickTime video about a minute long that I took a while back but the quality was absolutely horrible and it was deleted. I didn
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: g1275 on July 17, 2005, 08:09:57 pm
SlikStik Christian,

Do the Multi Color Cycling joysticks cycle by themselves or do they need a driver board to cycle? Because I wanted to use a driver board to be able change the colors of each balltop to a different constant color according to what game I was playing. Like when I open up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles blue, orange, purple, and red ball tops and buttons would be lit. Is this possible with the Multi Color Cycling joysticks?
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: JustMichael on July 18, 2005, 01:06:48 am
Now I think changing the stick color to match the game would really rock!!
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 18, 2005, 02:17:16 pm
SlikStik Christian,

Do the Multi Color Cycling joysticks cycle by themselves or do they need a driver board to cycle? Because I wanted to use a driver board to be able change the colors of each balltop to a different constant color according to what game I was playing. Like when I open up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles blue, orange, purple, and red ball tops and buttons would be lit. Is this possible with the Multi Color Cycling joysticks?


g1275,

  The multi-colored handles morph on their own, no driver board needed. It cannot be controlled. There is a led that will allow you to select colors but they are way too big in physical size for the application we use them for.

g1275,

Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: AlanS17 on July 18, 2005, 03:24:44 pm
SlikStik Christian, could I make a suggestion?

You might want to think about making some sort of lighted mounting plate. Picture a 3"x6" plastic rectangular plate with 6 button holes. It would be white plastic and lighted by inserting LED's using Knievel's method (if you're not familiar I could elaborate). It would be held in place underneath the control panel by the buttons when they're screwed in.

It would provide a plug-and-play lighting method for buttons for anyone willing to use a Street Fighter layout (75% of all users), it would be cheaper than trying to develop individually lighted buttons, and would mean the user only has to wire up one thing instead of 12 or more.

This would give you the ability to offer customers a way to light their buttons so that they match your sticks. It would also give you a way to quickly offer lighted buttons on your own control panels.

I'll just ask for a sample of the finished product in exchange for my excellent idea.  ;) (I'm not getting my hopes up over it, though.)
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Toonces on July 18, 2005, 08:18:57 pm
SlikStik Christian,

Do the Multi Color Cycling joysticks cycle by themselves or do they need a driver board to cycle? Because I wanted to use a driver board to be able change the colors of each balltop to a different constant color according to what game I was playing. Like when I open up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles blue, orange, purple, and red ball tops and buttons would be lit. Is this possible with the Multi Color Cycling joysticks?


g1275,

  The multi-colored handles morph on their own, no driver board needed. It cannot be controlled. There is a led that will allow you to select colors but they are way too big in physical size for the application we use them for.

g1275,

  The multi-colored handles morph on their own. It cannot be controlled. There is an led that will allow you to slect colors but they are way to big in phsycal size for the application we use them for.

What size LED does the stick use and is it possible for the end user to change them?

Thanks!

Toonces
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Toonces on July 18, 2005, 08:41:37 pm
Sorry, one more question and I'm done :) What length are the shafts? Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both? I am thinking of a set of these in Red or maybe color cycling for my Robotron. I already have competion bases with repro stainless shafts/red ball in 4" height but lit up red would be sooo cool.

Thanks Again,

Toonces
Title: Re: * New Product Lighted Joystick Handles *
Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 19, 2005, 07:31:26 am
Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both?
I think they might be either, but I don't think they can be both?   ;D
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 19, 2005, 10:40:02 am
Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both?
I think they might be either, but I don't think they can be both?
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Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 19, 2005, 10:42:35 am
Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both?
I think they might be either, but I don't think they can be both?   ;D
With more than one notch, why couldn't they be both?
You missed the joke . . .  :(
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Post by: Toonces on July 19, 2005, 04:42:58 pm
Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both?
I think they might be either, but I don't think they can be both?   ;D
With more than one notch, why couldn't they be both?
You missed the joke . . .  :(

I was just trying to cover all the bases. a 4" shaft with 2 notches could be both. But, in technical terms of the english language, the shaft length is what it is and so it could not be both. Only one or the other. Mongo not know. Mongo just a pawn in the game of life. :)
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 19, 2005, 05:16:24 pm
Are they standard 3.5" or 4" or both?
I think they might be either, but I don't think they can be both?
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 19, 2005, 09:32:23 pm
Toonces,

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Post by: pointdablame on July 20, 2005, 12:47:23 am
Are these joysticks their respective colors if they are unlit... or are they all clear until the LED is illuminated?

BTW... they look totally amazing.
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 20, 2005, 08:35:10 am
pointdablame,

  When they are powered off they are plain opaque white. It
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 20, 2005, 10:16:36 am
Thos things are spiffy.
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Post by: Knievel on July 20, 2005, 11:13:21 am
Man those pictures look photoshop'd...I find it hard to believe an LED could light that ball so evenly.
I will be buying some if they really look that good in person.
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 20, 2005, 11:19:00 am
Are the balls frosted or translucent? I could see a frosted ball doing that, but not a translucent one.
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Post by: pointdablame on July 20, 2005, 11:29:17 am
Are the balls frosted or translucent? I could see a frosted ball doing that, but not a translucent one.

My guess is that by Christian's use of the word opaque as opposed to translucent is that the ball is frosted in some way... that would definitely explain the even glow.

All I know is that when I finally get around to building my new control panel... these will be on it. 


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Post by: gl.tter on July 20, 2005, 11:33:33 am
Man those pictures look photoshop'd...I find it hard to believe an LED could light that ball so evenly.
I will be buying some if they really look that good in person.

Agreed, compared to the earlier pictures that clearly showed a highlight in the top half (as expected from uplighting), this is just too perfect.
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Post by: gl.tter on July 20, 2005, 11:38:10 am
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Post by: quarterback on July 20, 2005, 04:02:37 pm
At first I thought it was a 3D render, because even the buttons seem fake in the first pic - but the start button looks real...

I had similar thoughts, but I didn't think it was a 3D render.  It just looks to me like there was some 'tweaking' of the reds in that first pic.

But I'm sure it's only to the degree that makes the photo appear the same as real life :)
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 20, 2005, 06:36:27 pm
The main reason we had a custom solid opaque ball made rather than an exterior only or frosted one is so that the light would refract throughout the entire ball as much as possible. In addition we modify the LED's in such a way that the beam of light is at 180 degrees or more to light up the sides and bottom.

The photos were not altered in any way except for cropping around the images. Its probably the way the camera took the photos, I would even say they are more red in person than in the photos. Also its not too visible but the bottom of the ball (in a lit room) is a little lighter than the top which is expected, but in the dark you cant see that, the entire ball glows like the sun.

Each color is different obviously; I will have photos of each very soon.

If anyone is interested I have them here in our showroom and you are more than welcome to come see them in person.
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 20, 2005, 06:58:31 pm
I, for one, am a believer. There's no business sense in faking it. There would just be hundreds of returns being made.

However, if people have a hard time believeing it, I'd recommend a video clip. That's a lot harder to photo shop. (Yes, that's sarcasm - not an ignorant statement.)

I don't need a video clip for proof, but I would like to see how darker colors would look.
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Post by: sonicflood on July 20, 2005, 07:29:35 pm
Is there a way to make them pulsate?  That would be really cool!  I too, wish you offered bats as well as the ball type.  I may have to have one of those for my 4-way.

Sonic
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Post by: pointdablame on July 20, 2005, 07:39:47 pm
The main reason we had a custom solid opaque ball made rather than an exterior only or frosted one is so that the light would refract throughout the entire ball as much as possible. In addition we modify the LED's in such a way that the beam of light is at 180 degrees or more to light up the sides and bottom.

The photos were not altered in any way except for cropping around the images. Its probably the way the camera took the photos, I would even say they are more red in person than in the photos. Also its not too visible but the bottom of the ball (in a lit room) is a little lighter than the top which is expected, but in the dark you cant see that, the entire ball glows like the sun.

Each color is different obviously; I will have photos of each very soon.

If anyone is interested I have them here in our showroom and you are more than welcome to come see them in person.


hmm... I may just take you up on that.  You're in NJ correct?  How far away from the Union/Elizabeth area are you?
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 20, 2005, 07:43:49 pm
The main reason we had a custom solid opaque ball made rather than an exterior only or frosted one is so that the light would refract throughout the entire ball as much as possible. In addition we modify the LED's in such a way that the beam of light is at 180 degrees or more to light up the sides and bottom.

The photos were not altered in any way except for cropping around the images. Its probably the way the camera took the photos, I would even say they are more red in person than in the photos. Also its not too visible but the bottom of the ball (in a lit room) is a little lighter than the top which is expected, but in the dark you cant see that, the entire ball glows like the sun.

Each color is different obviously; I will have photos of each very soon.

If anyone is interested I have them here in our showroom and you are more than welcome to come see them in person.


hmm... I may just take you up on that.
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Post by: Toonces on July 20, 2005, 11:43:12 pm
Toonces,

Title: Re: * SlikStik Lighted Joystick Handles -New Photos- *
Post by: pointdablame on July 21, 2005, 12:51:02 am
The main reason we had a custom solid opaque ball made rather than an exterior only or frosted one is so that the light would refract throughout the entire ball as much as possible. In addition we modify the LED's in such a way that the beam of light is at 180 degrees or more to light up the sides and bottom.

The photos were not altered in any way except for cropping around the images. Its probably the way the camera took the photos, I would even say they are more red in person than in the photos. Also its not too visible but the bottom of the ball (in a lit room) is a little lighter than the top which is expected, but in the dark you cant see that, the entire ball glows like the sun.

Each color is different obviously; I will have photos of each very soon.

If anyone is interested I have them here in our showroom and you are more than welcome to come see them in person.


hmm... I may just take you up on that.  You're in NJ correct?  How far away from the Union/Elizabeth area are you?

20 minutes, you can take the turnpike to RT3 and be here in no time. Then you can come back to the arcadecontrols forum and post exactly what you have seen.

How does Friday around 6pm sound?


Actually... I might be able to make that happen.  I'll PM you in a moment.
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Post by: amerish on July 21, 2005, 02:20:37 pm
Just got my two in the mail today.  They are for two different cabs so I did not need them joined together (nice shrink wrap though).

Are there resisters on the wire feeds or can I just cut the wires?

I also want to convert the Happ super to 4 way.  When I open it up, should I be worried about anything or need to be specially careful with.

On a side note, for those on the fence, they are SWEET and the glow fills the entire ball top.

I also am thinking of powering it with the optipac, dont think it should be a problem.
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Post by: pointdablame on July 21, 2005, 02:24:55 pm
I'm pretty positive that I'll be taking a ride there on Saturday morning to see them.  Christian said that I could take pics, so I'll be sure to post them when I get back.  At least that might help some people as to whether the pics were photoshop'd or not.

I swear to tell the truth... unless SlikStik wants to bribe me with free parts  :P
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Post by: gl.tter on July 21, 2005, 02:27:43 pm
Christian said that I could take pics, so I'll be sure to post them when I get back.
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Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 21, 2005, 03:43:25 pm
I also want to convert the Happ super to 4 way.  When I open it up, should I be worried about anything or need to be specially careful with.
Catch the E-clip retainer BEFORE it goes flying across the room, never to be seen again.
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Post by: AlanS17 on July 21, 2005, 06:03:09 pm
I also want to convert the Happ super to 4 way.
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Post by: amerish on July 21, 2005, 07:12:25 pm
okay could not wait, turns out the wires were just joined together, no resistors. The optipac will work find for powering the stick. 

As for the pics being altered.  Nope, in the dark the red is darn right sinister.  My opinion is that the red is the strongest color and it does look like the pic.

smiling all the way with the line to the wife..... "I bought it for the kids".
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Post by: KevSteele on July 21, 2005, 10:12:21 pm
I'm going to be getting a set of all 8 colors for a review, and I'll be sure and take some video of the joysticks both lit and unlit, in a bright room and dark. Video is certainly the best way to get a feel for the overall lighting (I'll "arc" around the joysticks with the camera)

I'm looking forward to reviewing these...between these and the translucent buttons and the new LED driver boards coming out, my CP's about to get a lot brighter...  ;D

Kevin
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Post by: pointdablame on July 22, 2005, 12:45:37 am
If Christian gets back to me and I can get over there on Saturday, I should be able to take some videos as well.  My cam takes pretty decent video, and I can hold around 12 minutes or so, so we'll see what happens.

I'd need a place to host the videos though, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
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Post by: stellarola on July 22, 2005, 12:55:48 am
They look really soft...I don't know why. I want to touch the balls....whoops!  :-*
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Post by: KevSteele on July 22, 2005, 01:04:27 pm
If Christian gets back to me and I can get over there on Saturday, I should be able to take some videos as well.
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Post by: Toonces on July 22, 2005, 09:27:51 pm
Just got my two in the mail today.  They are for two different cabs so I did not need them joined together (nice shrink wrap though).

Are there resisters on the wire feeds or can I just cut the wires?

I also want to convert the Happ super to 4 way.  When I open it up, should I be worried about anything or need to be specially careful with.

On a side note, for those on the fence, they are SWEET and the glow fills the entire ball top.

I also am thinking of powering it with the optipac, dont think it should be a problem.

Any possibility that you could measure the shaft from the lowest e-clip to the bottom of the ball for me? I want to see if they'd work in my Robotron cab.

Thanks!

Toonces
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Post by: Jedi Master Matt on July 29, 2005, 10:40:41 pm
Greetings gang,

I'm getting the urge to do some upgrades to my cabinet and I'm thinking of replacing my sticks with some of these bad boys to match the rest of my LED mad control panel... all pushbuttons illuminated, trackball, and trigger joystick.

A couple of quick requests for advice.

I currently have a J-Stick ball top serving as a dedicated 4-way and this would be the one stick that I'm most intrestest in swapping out with one of the illuminated ones.

The question would be in your opinion, what would be the best 4-way joystick base to pick up to be compatible with the new illuminated ball top?
The one requirement I'd have for this would be it would need a diamond restrictor.

The other question would be about swapping my beloved P360 bats for some illmuninated love.   I play a lot of fighters and have always prefered bats for those games, so I think I already know what advice I'll get... but, has anyone ever switched from bats to ball tops and not regreted it?

Thanks in advance!
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Post by: 1UP on July 30, 2005, 05:20:18 pm
Chris, Glad to see these are finally for sale.
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Post by: pointdablame on July 30, 2005, 05:37:53 pm
1Up is totally right.. the colors of these handles in pictures are NOTHING like in person.

I have a bunch of pictures in the thread I made, but again, the colors aren't really done justice.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=40387.0
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Post by: gl.tter on July 30, 2005, 06:34:01 pm
I have a bunch of pictures in the thread I made, but again, the colors aren't really done justice.

Cameras on auto will usually over-expose this type of picture.  You need manual exposure control to capture these right - knock the exposure down until the colour doesn't overload anymore.
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Post by: JustMichael on July 31, 2005, 12:08:17 am
How do we order?  Seems like the web application is unavailable...   ;)
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Post by: pointdablame on July 31, 2005, 01:03:40 am
How do we order?  Seems like the web application is unavailable...   ;)

yeah seems like their web store is broken, but they were right on the parts page.  I guess they are having some technical issues??
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on July 31, 2005, 03:32:58 am
Thanks for the compliments guys, we appreciate it. As for the web store, we are doing a massive upgrade and the store will be down for a day, this should be running at top speed on Monday morning.
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Post by: JustMichael on July 31, 2005, 02:07:26 pm
One last question (hopefully),  can I get the lighted sticks unassembled?  Or at least to where I can remove the knob and use my own led?
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on August 01, 2005, 02:20:58 pm
Yes, if you would like. When you are ready to purchase one do so, and then send me an email at info@slikstik.com referencing your order ID# and I will ship it unassembled.
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Post by: whammoed on August 02, 2005, 10:17:53 am
Gotta say I love them.  Not sure what I would use them on yet but I will be getting some to play with on my next order.
So...when are you going to come out with a trigger style ball top for this stick?  A trigger stick p360...that would be sweet!
What size are the threads for the ball tops on these?  I might consider buying some stock ball knobs and try to fashion a button to them if possible.
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Post by: Brewser on August 11, 2005, 11:17:34 pm
I finally set mine up tonight. These things are bright and look sweet!!
A couple things though:
1. the handle is longer than my previous super. Is there a way to change this to make them a little shorter? I have tried everything. I actually would like them down about 1/2" or so. I put them in without the top washer, and the length was great, but you can't use the joysticks that way since they won't center very well.
2. The plug on the bottom has come out twice. It is not in very tight. Is there a secret to getting these to stay on. I have only played with mine for about an hour so I don't have any long term use to the plug coming loose over time. It is pushed in all the way, so don't ask that question.
Overall a great product.
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Post by: KevSteele on August 12, 2005, 10:16:04 am
A trigger stick p360...that would be sweet!

<Hulk>
Me want...me want NOW!
</Hulk>

Kevin
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on August 13, 2005, 06:09:45 am
I finally set mine up tonight. These things are bright and look sweet!!
A couple things though:
1. the handle is longer than my previous super. Is there a way to change this to make them a little shorter? I have tried everything. I actually would like them down about 1/2" or so. I put them in without the top washer, and the length was great, but you can't use the joysticks that way since they won't center very well.
2. The plug on the bottom has come out twice. It is not in very tight. Is there a secret to getting these to stay on. I have only played with mine for about an hour so I don't have any long term use to the plug coming loose over time. It is pushed in all the way, so don't ask that question.
Overall a great product.

The handles are a little higher than the stock ones and cannot be adjusted. As for the plug not staying in, you must have the loop between the end and where you put the clamp on too short which if that
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Post by: Agm on August 13, 2005, 12:10:14 pm
Hey Christian this is Agm from your boards too.

I get to come down to the store and pick mine up soon too?

And also does anyone have a template so I can make a nice overlay for my slikstik quad? I am unable to find anything anywhere and I really want to put down a cool costume layout on it.
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Post by: Midnight Tboy on August 17, 2005, 11:12:31 am
heya,

I hope you're still checking this thread Christian.  I must say, excellent looking sticks and I'm definately after a pair from your site, definately with joysticks as they'll have to replace my T Stick Plus's.  Not sure whether to go for the blue ones or the multi coloured ones

Firstly though, am I right in thinking that these will be powered straight off the ipac4 controller I have no problems.

secondly, I like in the UK, so shipping would cost too much here, and when they add tax etc...but my parents are going to see my godparents in New York (or was it New Jersey I can't remember now - somewhere there anyways) in a week or so for a fortnight.  Would you say they'd be delivered in time for them to bring back with them, or do you have a huge backlog of demand?

dammit, I've been tryin to get this cabinet finished off and its starting to look nice now but I def need some illuminations for the cabinet :)   hmmm while I'm at it I could get some translucent pushbuttons, or one of those LED boards I've heard about..I'll have to find a source for them :)

cheers,
Tuck
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Post by: SlikStik Christian on August 17, 2005, 02:53:22 pm
Agm,

  Absolutly, you are welcome to come down and pick your order up in person, just email us at info@slikstik.com to setup a time and date.

Tboy,

  Yes, they are powered directly off of the I-Pac, nothing else needed. As for shipping them to NY or NJ so that they will have them in time, no problem. If that
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Post by: Hoopz on August 31, 2005, 07:33:27 pm
I placed an order tonight for 4 handles.  Has anyone ordered recently and can state how long it took to receive their order for these?

Not that I am impatient or anything....  :)
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Post by: Santoro on April 02, 2006, 07:03:38 pm
Christian, any chance you will ever come out with these for the Galaga/MsPacman 4-ways?
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Post by: markrvp on April 02, 2006, 10:25:56 pm
Christian, any chance you will ever come out with these for the Galaga/MsPacman 4-ways?

That's a Super base, so the lighted handles for the Happ Super should work perfectly in the reunion stick.  It will be taller, though.
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Post by: MikeQ on April 02, 2006, 10:27:15 pm
I would stay away from the auto color cycling version of these handles if you plan to use them with an LEDWiz.  For some reason (I tried to get support from SlikStik but got no answer) the balltops don't cycle through colors correctly when hooked to an LEDWiz.  I suspect it is because the LEDWiz is doing some modulation. The LEDs/circuit used in the balltops don't like the modulation and basically just flicker mostly red all the time.  If I knew a little more about the LEDs/Circuit used to cycle the colors I could probably offer a solution.  I'll probably gut mine one day to find out what the issue is.  I'll post pics/info when I figure it out.  It isn't a priority right now though.  It will probably just require a diode and capacitor to even out the signal.  This might mess up waveforms from the LEDWiz though.  I may also just re-engineer them and put an RGB LED in the balltop so I can select my own color scheme from PowerMAME.