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Title: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 08, 2005, 11:56:42 am
Hi there, I've got a silly question, but I don't want to end up breaking my cab. I Own a 26 1/2" Dynamo Cab.

My concern is that I want to remove the backpanel to paint inside, but I don't see any screws, bolts, etc. that enable me to remove it... do you guys have a suggestion, I've been thinking of hammering it out,  i dunno

Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Stingray on February 08, 2005, 12:19:51 pm
Hey you don't happen to know what game was in that originally do you? It looks pretty close to the MVS conversion that I've been trying to ID:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,31467.0.html

In any case if yours is like mine, there's a lock in the middle-top of the rear door which is all that holds the back door on mine. If the lock is gone it's possible that someone nailed in on and filled/ painted over the nail holes.

-S

(http://www.stingraysmadness.com/images/photoalbum/12/neogeo2.jpg)
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: walls83 on February 08, 2005, 01:00:03 pm
I WOULDNT hammer it out.  That would be a big mistake I would think

Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 08, 2005, 01:06:06 pm
Hey you don't happen to know what game was in that originally do you? It looks pretty close to the MVS conversion that I've been trying to ID:

Mine is a traditional Dynamo Cab, those are generic cabs. Your cab looks a lot like a Dynamo Cab. Except for the Control Panel, mine has a metal control panel with cut corners.... Maybe someone did remove the lock :(

I WOULDNT hammer it out. That would be a big mistake I would think


I'm not willing to do that!! :(.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Witchboard on February 08, 2005, 01:11:49 pm
Just out of curiosity, why would you want to paint the inside of the cab anyway?
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Stingray on February 08, 2005, 01:13:48 pm

Mine is a traditional Dynamo Cab, those are generic cabs. Your cab looks a lot like a Dynamo Cab. Except for the Control Panel, mine has a metal control panel with cut corners

Mine has a metal control panel as well.

Going back to the door, rather than hammering it out, you may try just pushing it out from the inside. If it's nailed in with just a few short nails you may be able to push it out and not damage anything.

-S
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 08, 2005, 01:20:12 pm
Just out of curiosity, why would you want to paint the inside of the cab anyway?

(http://www.oscarcontrols.com/unnamed/images/07_small.jpg)
This pic is from oscar's unnamed mame cab.

this is why, I'm going to paint the inside white, then cover the coin door hole with plexi, snap on a couple of blue neon lights!! to let the PC glow!! :D


Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 08, 2005, 01:21:45 pm

Mine is a traditional Dynamo Cab, those are generic cabs. Your cab looks a lot like a Dynamo Cab. Except for the Control Panel, mine has a metal control panel with cut corners

Mine has a metal control panel as well.

Going back to the door, rather than hammering it out, you may try just pushing it out from the inside. If it's nailed in with just a few short nails you may be able to push it out and not damage anything.

-S

I think i might just give that a try, or else i'll figure another way to paint the inside!!  :-\
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Witchboard on February 08, 2005, 01:30:08 pm
Ah.. Okay.  Either way you're going to need back panel access.  If not for painting, for setting up other stuff.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 08, 2005, 01:33:02 pm
You got it bro.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: kinu64 on February 08, 2005, 04:00:15 pm
have you tried to pry it apart with a crow bar?
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Stingray on February 08, 2005, 04:32:15 pm
Assuming his back door is like mine, it fits between the side panels. I'm pretty sure you'd end up breaking a side panel if you tried prying with a crowbar.

-S
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: walls83 on February 08, 2005, 04:40:46 pm
The easiest way might just to cut a big door panel  in it.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 09, 2005, 07:54:56 am
The easiest way might just to cut a big door panel in it.


That's a nasty trick, but it sounds ok....
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: SirPeale on February 09, 2005, 08:29:40 am
Since this is an existing cab:

1) Clean it out well.  I mean really, *really* well.

2) gut it.  Completely.

3) climb in the back door and paint the inside.  Mask off anything you DON'T want painted.

Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 09, 2005, 08:45:02 am
Since this is an existing cab:

1) Clean it out well. I mean really, *really* well.

2) gut it. Completely.

3) climb in the back door and paint the inside. Mask off anything you DON'T want painted.

Or am I missing something?

Step 1 Done
Step 2 Done
Step 3 - Don't get it  :-\ - I mean how can I climb in the back door!! The cab has a monitor shelf so I cant reach the bottom from behind!! I can only reach inside through the coin door hole :(

My cab is already painted outside... 

*edit*
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: SirPeale on February 09, 2005, 08:53:24 am
There isn't a back door with a key to remove to access components back there?  Can't see anything, since you didn't provide pictures of the back.  The very place you're asking advice on!
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 09, 2005, 09:02:48 am
I'm sorry I haven't posted pictures.. The arcade is in my old home, I'm living in an apartment now. There's no keyhole, I don't see any hinges from the inside that indicate that the back door is open able...  :-\. I'll see if my brother can shoot a picture for me tonight so I can post it and get more answers
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: dabone on February 09, 2005, 10:16:33 am
Most cabs don't have hinges, it fits in a groove.

Look at the top center of your back door. Do you see a lock?

Or a few screws around the edges?


I've never seen a wooden cab that the back panel is not removable.


If its a lock in the back just see if you can reach the back of the lock from the front and remove the cam portion.


Later,
dabone
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: SirPeale on February 09, 2005, 10:16:54 am
Please do!  All the cabs I've seen have had a removable back door, so you have access to components.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Ken Layton on February 09, 2005, 10:42:14 am
Dynamo (and a few other game cabinet manufacturers) made some cabinets without back doors. The reasoning was then there would be no way for kids to break into the back of the machine. In these kinds of cabinets ALL access was from the front only.

I have seen some cabinets that did have back doors, but they were screwed shut and did not have a lock (or lock hole). Sometimes the wood swells and a back door is hard to remove. That's when I use a metal putty knife to wedge in there and pop it open.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: SirPeale on February 09, 2005, 10:50:14 am
Thanks, Ken.  That makes sense.

Can you unbolt the monitor shelf?
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Stingray on February 09, 2005, 11:07:58 am
I would assume that the monitor shelf is removable since mine is virtually identical to his except mine doesn't have a monitor shelf and does have a back door.

-S
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: RayB on February 09, 2005, 01:24:36 pm
Here's another thought... Does your cab have a front drawer? When you open the control panel (swivels open) can you pull on it and pull open a drawer?

If so, maybe this style cab does not open in the back. I know Dynamo had at least one variation of it's cut-corner cab where a drawer in the front slid out. It was great for swapping PCBs cuz they would just sit in the drawer!

~Ray B.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: Stingray on February 09, 2005, 01:28:36 pm
Here's another thought... Does your cab have a front drawer? When you open the control panel (swivels open) can you pull on it and pull open a drawer?

If so, maybe this style cab does not open in the back. I know Dynamo had at least one variation of it's cut-corner cab where a drawer in the front slid out. It was great for swapping PCBs cuz they would just sit in the drawer!

~Ray B.

I had a Cyberball like that. Pretty handy. Doesn't look from the picture like his does that though. Mine is hinged on the bottom of the CP, looks like his attaches the same way.

-S
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: RayB on February 09, 2005, 01:39:08 pm
Yeah you're right.
Title: Re: Removing Back Panel -
Post by: brained on February 09, 2005, 02:17:06 pm
Here's another thought... Does your cab have a front drawer? When you open the control panel (swivels open) can you pull on it and pull open a drawer?

If so, maybe this style cab does not open in the back. I know Dynamo had at least one variation of it's cut-corner cab where a drawer in the front slid out. It was great for swapping PCBs cuz they would just sit in the drawer!

~Ray B.

THAT is the type of cab i OWN!! :)... is really comfortable for that reason, but I'm willing to paint inside. Maybe I can spraypaint it from above...