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Title: Help me pick out a car
Post by: whammoed on January 27, 2005, 12:26:34 am
Looking for:
5door/hatchback
close to 30mpg
Under $19,000
Power windows/locks
alloy wheels
cruise control
ABS
relatively safe (i'll have the kids in there from time to time)

So, what do you suggest to fit the bill?
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: GGKoul on January 27, 2005, 12:31:30 am
Buying a new car is the worst investment.  I would buy car thats a couple of years old.  For that price and what your looking for.  I suggest a 1997-2000 Volvo V90 Wagen.  I have a 1998 Volvo S70 and its a tank.  I feel very safe driving it and it's very reilable.  I'm had no issues with mine for the past 4 years.

Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: danny_galaga on January 27, 2005, 03:17:06 am
i heartily recommend the BMW 4wd
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: mr.Curmudgeon on January 27, 2005, 07:01:53 am

Orange!
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: JoyMonkey on January 27, 2005, 08:03:37 am
I'm extra-ordinarily cheap, so I'd get a 2002/2003 Ford Focus ZX5 hatchback. You should be able to pick one up in great condition for about $8,500 and they get 26mpg. Next time I buy a car this is probably what I'd go for.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Harry Potter on January 27, 2005, 10:08:11 am
i heartily recommend the BMW 4wd
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31146.0;id=9337;image)

I thought Drew's beamer was blue.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: rerstad on January 27, 2005, 10:48:41 am
Toyota Prius.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: JoyMonkey on January 27, 2005, 11:15:47 am
Speaking of Toyota, I think a Matrix would fit your description pretty well. You could even get a brand new 4wd model for under $19,000.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Shape D. on January 27, 2005, 11:27:38 am
Buying a new car is the worst investment.  I would buy car thats a couple of years old.  For that price and what your looking for.  I suggest a 1997-2000 Volvo V90 Wagen.  I have a 1998 Volvo S70 and its a tank.  I feel very safe driving it and it's very reilable.  I'm had no issues with mine for the past 4 years.


I would agree with this statement. My wife baught a 2003
 buick last year for about $7000 less than it would have costed a year before.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: clanggedin on January 27, 2005, 11:45:02 am
I work at a dealership and If you can find a Prius that is used then get that. We sold a 2003 Prius w/GPS and only 44K for about $14K. We also had a Honda Civic Hybrid for 16K.

JD Powers rated Hyundai as reliable as Toyota and Honda. You could get a 2004 Sonata GLS with 15K miles for around $12-13K. Thats all with all power options, alloy wheels and power moonroof.

The Malibu Maxx would be another goos vehicle, you get all power and DVD with that one. You'd could probably buy one new for under $19K
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: whammoed on January 27, 2005, 12:49:36 pm
Yes, I am not against a used car and did not specify it had to be new.  I am open to all suggestions.  I will check into whats been suggested so far.

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Stingray on January 27, 2005, 01:29:20 pm
I wonder if anyone can pinpoint the exact moment that station wagons became "five door hatchbacks". Ah marketing. ;)

-S
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: TOK on January 27, 2005, 02:29:14 pm
I'd go for the Mazda 6 hatchback, mainly because it doesn't look like a hatchback!
I keep my cars/trucks until they die, maintain them myself so they last, and don't consider a new one a bad investment. I'd hate to buy a newer used car then discover it has some nightmarish problem that is what caused the previous seller to dump it.

(http://www.grohol.com/mazda/mazda6_hatchback4.jpg)
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: missioncontrol on January 27, 2005, 02:37:02 pm
I wonder if anyone can pinpoint the exact moment that station wagons became "five door hatchbacks". Ah marketing. ;)

-S

so does this mean the wifes 91 Buick Roadmaster is now a "five door extended hatchback with roomy interior"? :D
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: whammoed on January 27, 2005, 02:39:56 pm
Quote from: missioncontrol link=topic=31146.msg263940#msg263940

so does this mean the wifes 91 Buick Roadmaster is now a "five door extended hatchback"?
[quote
The "wagon" name got a real bad rep in the 80s with the ugly designs and faux wood paneling. ::)
I actually want the big back end and not just a hatchback so it has more cargo room so that particular mazda is a no go for me.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 27, 2005, 03:38:30 pm
I wonder if anyone can pinpoint the exact moment that station wagons became "five door hatchbacks". Ah marketing. ;)

-S

so does this mean the wifes 91 Buick Roadmaster is now a "five door extended hatchback with roomy interior"? :D

holy crap thats a boat!!! and you let a girl drive that... damn i think i would be afraid to drive something to large. im used to my agile little sports cars
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Stingray on January 27, 2005, 03:42:51 pm
That's not a boat, this is a boat:

(http://www.stingraysmadness.com/images/photoalbum/15/ambassador.jpg)

1972 AMC Ambassador Five Door Hatchback. Bet you could get a cherry deal on one of those. ;)

Okay I'll stop. Seriously, sombody suggested the Focus. I went and test drove an SVT Focus not long ago. Saw a few of the wagon (or five door if you prefer) version while I was there.  Not a bad little car for the money, I thought.

-S
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: DrewKaree on January 27, 2005, 07:21:20 pm

I thought Drew's beamer was blue.


No, you're thinking of when I got a Hummer.....and it TURNED blue......it all worked out in the end  ;D
After that, I had to change my plates from W4NK3R....sigh



Now, back to the topic at hand.

Mazda Protoge Wagon.  It fits all your criteria....that "big back end" comment was about the car, right?  Otherwise the wife is gonna need a new frying pan after her skillful application of it to yer skull!  ;D
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: whammoed on January 27, 2005, 08:36:11 pm
[quote author=DrewKaree link=topic=31146.msg264104#msg264104 that "big back end" comment was about the car, right?
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: krick on January 27, 2005, 09:32:22 pm
Looking for:
Power windows/locks
ABS

Personally, I will never buy a car with power windows or locks.  They just don't last.  Every one I know with power windows has had them stick up/down and had one or more of their power locks fail.

I'm also against ABS.  I think that for people who know how to use their breaks properly, ABS is dangerous.  ABS only works properly when you jam on the breaks and hold it.  I learned to drive in the days before ABS and I know how to feather the breaks to get the optimal stopping results.  I drove that way on a car with ABS and nearly had an accident.

But other than that, get a Toyota or Honda.  Everything else is junk.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: SOAPboy on January 27, 2005, 09:42:29 pm
Looking for:
Power windows/locks
ABS

Personally, I will never buy a car with power windows or locks.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: danny_galaga on January 27, 2005, 10:57:51 pm
Looking for:
Power windows/locks
ABS

Personally, I will never buy a car with power windows or locks.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: krick on January 27, 2005, 11:13:35 pm
i wont ever buy a car without at LEAST power locks.. windows are no big deal, but locks, pfft, i want my keyless, and not have to lean over to unlock a door for someone..

Dude, chicks dig it when you unlock and open the door for them on the passenger side first before you walk around and open your side.

You can't really be chivalrous with power locks.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: clanggedin on January 27, 2005, 11:46:02 pm
You could get a Ford Taurus Wagon, but I think you would be better suited in a Mazda 6 or Mazda 3 hatch back. They are fun to drive!
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: SirPoonga on January 27, 2005, 11:50:53 pm
Speaking of Toyota, I think a Matrix would fit your description pretty well. You could even get a brand new 4wd model for under $19,000.

Oh hell no.  You don't want a corolla awd.  I mean, why put 140hp on awd.  Awd requires power to make it effective.    I wish they could have made the celica engine version awd!

I suggest looking at Ford Focus.  Especially the new ones.  As of last year I think Ford put the Protoge engine in the Focus.  It's a pretty nice car.

I would like to get an AWD car myself.  For the US that pretty much limits you to Suburu and Audii/Volkwagon.  If I could get my hands on a Mitsubishi vr4....

Now, where do you live?  Is rear wheel drive out of the question for you?  For me I don't even want to look at rear wheel since I want something that handles in the snow.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Ravant on January 28, 2005, 01:31:49 am
I'm not sure it fits the hatchback, but you can get a 4-door Chevrolet Cobalt LT for just under $17,000 that gets about 29 MPG according to Car and Driver Magazine. The only brand of car I recommend staying away from are any brand cars that are controlled by Ford Motor Company, in light of their recent recalls that even effected their supposedly perfect Ford GT.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: maraxle on January 28, 2005, 07:43:59 am
I'd go for the Mazda6 Hatchback or Wagon, or the Mazda3 Hatchback.  I traded my POS 2000 Volkswagen Jetta in on a new Mazda6 4-door back in December, and it's a great car.  This is the second Mazda I've owned (the other was a 1993 Mazda 626), and both have been excellent.

As a side note, I'd recommend AGAINST anything Volkswagen (at least post-1999).  Mine was by far the worst car I've ever owned.  My girlfriend's '02 New Beetle is nearly as bad, although she hasn't had any $1000-plus repair months like mine occasionally had (all with less than 45k miles on it...)  Check out www.myvwlemon.com for plenty of other horror stories.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Trenchbroom on January 28, 2005, 09:31:47 am
Always been a big fan of Mazda myself.  If you don't have to buy a car immediately you might want to check out the Mazda5 when they come out this summer.  Sort of a mini minivan, based on the 3 platform, seats six and supposedly doesn't feel like a van.  Supposed to sell for under $18000 base:





Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: krick on January 28, 2005, 09:49:08 am
[quote author=SirPoonga link=topic=31146.msg264224#msg264224
I suggest looking at Ford Focus.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 28, 2005, 10:22:26 am
lmao, i wish i got 25MPG

i get about 18 MPG if i drive normal... the downfall to 660cc fuel injectors and a 255lph fuel pump setup =P
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: GGKoul on January 28, 2005, 10:36:11 am
I'd go for the Mazda6 Hatchback or Wagon, or the Mazda3 Hatchback.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Bones on January 28, 2005, 10:47:04 am
This seems like a sensible choice however the speedo needs some work as it tops out about 80 mile less than it should. (This can be fixed later with some mild mods).

Otherwise this seems to fit your criteria well.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 28, 2005, 11:11:46 am
lol, i would so drive one of those if i could find one
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: patrickl on January 28, 2005, 11:36:39 am
I wonder if anyone can pinpoint the exact moment that station wagons became "five door hatchbacks". Ah marketing. ;)

-S
A stationwagon and a hatchback are really different (mybe subtle but still). Both also different from the coupe and sedan models.
A hatchback is basically a car with big boot lid (car end is sloped) where a station wagon has the roofline run high till the end (car end is more or less straight down). For instance the new C4 will be available both as hatchback (berline) and stationwagon (break) in half a year or something.

I know the difference because my wife is looking for a car and all the hatchback models we saw were too small, so she needs a stationwagon.

Actually they recently added the (mini) MPV to
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Gunstar Hero on January 28, 2005, 01:41:55 pm
This seems like a sensible choice however the speedo needs some work as it tops out about 80 mile less than it should. (This can be fixed later with some mild mods).

Otherwise this seems to fit your criteria well.

Plus when that baby hits 88 miles per hour you're gonna see some serious s@#t.  ;D
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: krick on January 28, 2005, 02:20:46 pm
A hatchback is basically a car with big boot lid (car end is sloped) where a station wagon has the roofline run high till the end (car end is more or less straight down).

Ok... using that logic, these are station wagons ;)
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: missioncontrol on January 28, 2005, 03:22:31 pm
You could get a Ford Taurus Wagon, but I think you would be better suited in a Mazda 6 or Mazda 3 hatch back. They are fun to drive!

The Ford Taurus Wagon is a reliable car, the Wife had one of those before I got her the Buick Roadmaster we had over 200,000 miles on it when we sold it. We had very few problems with it.

and beleive it or not it was fun to drive. I had the speedometer pegged out many times on the interstate  :D
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: patrickl on January 28, 2005, 06:11:16 pm
A hatchback is basically a car with big boot lid (car end is sloped) where a station wagon has the roofline run high till the end (car end is more or less straight down).

Ok... using that logic, these are station wagons ;)
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: SOAPboy on January 28, 2005, 06:29:59 pm
i wont ever buy a car without at LEAST power locks.. windows are no big deal, but locks, pfft, i want my keyless, and not have to lean over to unlock a door for someone..

Dude, chicks dig it when you unlock and open the door for them on the passenger side first before you walk around and open your side.

You can't really be chivalrous with power locks.

so  :P
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: DrewKaree on January 28, 2005, 07:31:49 pm
Dude, chicks dig it when you unlock and open the door for them on the passenger side first before you walk around and open your side.

You can't really be chivalrous with power locks.

so  :P


He IS being chivalrous to his girlfriend  ;)

He's making less work for his "girlfriend" by only requireing "her" to push a button when opening the other door  ;D
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: SirPoonga on January 28, 2005, 07:38:08 pm
[quote author=SirPoonga link=topic=31146.msg264224#msg264224
I suggest looking at Ford Focus.  Especially the new ones.  As of last year I think Ford put the Protoge engine in the Focus.  It's a pretty nice car.
Quote

I can't speak for the new Focus but I have a 2001 myself.

My car has had about 11 recalls since it's been released.

My 3 biggest problems with the car...

1) The brakes are WAY WAY WAY too small for this car and don't last for sh*t.  You shouldn't need new pads and rotors after 30K miles.  It's probably the car's biggest design flaw.  In fact, on the SVT model Focus, they replaced them with larger brakes. 

2) The windshield wiper motors are designed poorly.  My car had a wiper moter that wasn't covered under the major recall they did and it failed the same way anyway.  When it gets too much load (like when your wipers are frozen with ice), it just strips the teeth off of the gears inside and quits working.  Now with the replacement motor which I took off of a 2002 model, if it hits a load, it blows fuses.

3) The gas mileage on the automatic is horrible.  I get a little over 25mpg.  My neighbor's Focus with a manual tranny gets nearly 35mpg.  Plus, he has the larger 4 door model.





I know many people form focaljet.com.  It is agood car.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: shmokes on January 28, 2005, 08:00:12 pm
I'd recommend a Subaru Outback Sport.  It's a bit lower than you want on gas mileage, but the AWD makes them really safe vehicles, especially if you live somewhere that gets much snow or ice.  And they're a ball to drive.  Good car.
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: missioncontrol on January 29, 2005, 07:07:04 pm
I found you the ultimate "five door hatchback" :D

Chicks will dig this car.......

Plenty of storage space......

Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: mrhowell on January 31, 2005, 04:38:45 pm
My wifes been very happy with her Mazda 3 5 door.  Good mileage and power.  160HP I think.  We have a 2004 and it's loaded. Got it for around $19000
Title: Re: Help me pick out a car
Post by: Jakobud on January 31, 2005, 05:01:23 pm
Yeah I'd look toward the Mazda 3 wagon.  Those things look pretty sweet.  I drive a Mercedes but I'd like to have one of those Mazda 3's.