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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: Sephroth57 on January 11, 2005, 07:14:00 pm
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im looking for something newb friendly. im sure i could pick it up fairly easy but im new to HTML so i dont want something crazy like dreamweaver. anyone know a good program? Price is no matter... i can aquire them cheap
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I have use Netobjects and Frontpage, both are easy.
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DreamWeaver..
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Ooooo... not FP :) I haven't used it in a while, but when I did, it did some NASTY stuff to the HTML :)
Dreamweaver is great, but kinda complicated to do 'right'.. HomeSite is probably the easiest I've seen. And since you can switch back and forth between GUI and code, it can help you learn HTML, as well :)
Of course, if you wanna do it the _right_ way, there's always vi :D
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Nothing is easier than Arachnophillia and it's free.
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frontpage is super easy. its set up like word so if you can do stuff in word you can do it in frontpage. ive been told that dreamweaver is more versatile but has a steeper learning curve.
oh, i dont know about other software, but frontpage seems to put in a lot of superfluous code. i wouldnt have known but a friend who hosts my site went through it for me and got rid of some of it. still would have worked the same but my friend is a programmer and wanted to keep the size down AND useless code is obviously anathema to a programmer!
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frontpage is super easy. its set up like word so if you can do stuff in word you can do it in frontpage. ive been told that dreamweaver is more versatile but has a steeper learning curve.
oh, i dont know about other software, but frontpage seems to put in a lot of superfluous code. i wouldnt have known but a friend who hosts my site went through it for me and got rid of some of it. still would have worked the same but my friend is a programmer and wanted to keep the size down AND useless code is obviously anathema to a programmer!
I second Front Page.. VERY easy!
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I second Frontpage, even though I haven't had time to use it to create my web site yet. I had a look at it and it was very easy to pick up.
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1st Page 2000 is easy, comes with a lot of great scripts, and it's free.
Front Page is easy, but it *does* in fact put a lot of code in that you don't need, and it will sometimes change code for you because it thinks it knows what you want to do. I can't recommend it because of that.
We use Visual InterDev 6.0 here at work. Yes, it's out-dated, but my company was always too cheap to buy .NET so we have been stuck in the 20th century.
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1st Page 2000 is easy, comes with a lot of great scripts, and it's free.
We use Visual InterDev 6.0 here at work.
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hmm, ive heard from a lot of people frontpage puts in unneeded crap and you guys just confirmed it again. maybe i will try that free one, arachnophilia. im still waiting for my domain to become active.... i wanna play with it now damnit =p
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If you want a point and click WYSIWYG software then I would suggest frontpage or Nemo...but IMHO they are both crap, and they output crap. Some plugins require server support, some pages are browser specific, etc.
Notepad is higher on my list of tools than those two.
I would rather have an HTML editor that does what I tell it.
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Front Page is easy, but it *does* in fact put a lot of code in that you don't need, and it will sometimes change code for you because it thinks it knows what you want to do.
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Actually Net Object Fusion was included with my web hosting site, so I used it...actually has a lot that you can do with it, but basic web design I found to be pretty straight forward. Before that I used Front Page which was pretty easy to use as well. I say if you have access to either of these they are a pretty good choice. Just my two cents
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hmm, ive heard from a lot of people frontpage puts in unneeded crap and you guys just confirmed it again. maybe i will try that free one, arachnophilia. im still waiting for my domain to become active.... i wanna play with it now damnit =p
I wouldn't say Front Page does this.
If you have NO HTML experience, Frontpage is for you. But if have some experience, you can use Front Page as a starting point. And then edit this code afterwards.
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FrontPage has a tendancy to screw up any HTML you decide to add, DreamWeaver will never do that.
You can use extension to add shopping carts, forms and tons of other cool stuuf that you don't know how to code using the extension manager in DreamWeaver.
I've used GoLive, FrontPage, NetObjects, UltraDev, InterDv and Dreamweaver is the best app to use.
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Learn HTML...
http://www.w3schools.com/html/
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerAll.html
http://www.werbach.com/barebones/barebones.html
...and use notepad.
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Learn HTML...
http://www.w3schools.com/html/
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerAll.html
http://www.werbach.com/barebones/barebones.html
...and use notepad.
i dont have time for that, i want the easy way out. i just DL dreamweaver and a pack of 150 layouts.. im gonna experiment with that tomorrow
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If you think FrontPage is bad, you should see what happens if you use Word.
My boss decided to give us an example of what he wanted one of our webpages to look like. He used Word to lay it out, and then saved it as an HTML document.
The page had about 8 images arranged in two columns with a bunch of text for each image. There wer no links or anything else, because it was just a mock up.
The resulting HTML output came to 18 pages of code!! :o
I have one part of my slot car club site that is a page exported from Excel. It is not as bad, but it does use way too many CSS's for something that is just a table of text and numbers.
Word had stuck in all kinds of Cascading Style Sheets, XML, DHTML and all kinds of crap that was total unneeded for a page that only displayed text and images.
I have been using Arachnophilia for years. It is a really nice HTML editor. I used to use it exclusively. Now I use Dreamweaver about half the time because we have it at work.
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heh personaly i still like notepad ;)
but mozilla also has an editor built in.
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i like dreamweaver seems to be what i was looking for, im playing around with some premade templates and then customizing them to what i want
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ok umm i uploaded something to my FTP, how can i post a direct link for people to DL it?
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Umm... I know that Dreamhost doesn't allow anonymous FTP. I'm assuming you uploaded it somewhere in the structure of your site.
try www.yoursite.com/thedirectoryyouputitin/thenameofthefileyouwantotherstoDL.theextensionofthefile
edit: i found it (since you dont have an index.htm or index.html yet)
http://www.blackheartrises.com/PopNMusic/Videos/Drew%20-%20Akumajo%20Dracula%20Melody%201-05%20DIVX.AVI
BTW those %20 's are spaces. Try to keep them out of your structure and files. An underscore _ is cleaner.
Cheers!
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thanks =)
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edit: i found it (since you dont have an index.htm or index.html yet)
please please try to keep it standard , M$ has screwed up the web soo bad , html is STANDARD , htm is some BS that M$ used in their frontpage program because , yep you guessed it , they were going to try to copyright htm .... unfortunaly their are tons and tons of stuff like that ... whatever you do for a web page , please check it in both IE and somthing like firefox/opera.