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Title: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 12:27:10 am
Looking for some fun games that 2 people can play at the same time. Kind of co-operative and/or opponent based at the same time, Joust is a perfect example, but I already know about that one ;)  Not a big fighter fan or a double dragon, simpsons style game, as they lose their appeal very quickly.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: krick on January 10, 2005, 12:36:53 am
The greatest co-operative simultaneous 2 player arcade game in history...

Smash TV

...and it's sort-of sequel...

Total Carnage



Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 12:41:11 am
thanks for the suggestions.  I checked them out, too bad each player needs two joysticks :( I might have to redesign my control panel to accomodate it.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: krick on January 10, 2005, 12:45:39 am
Those two games are the whole reason I got into this hobby.

I'm designing my control panel around them.


Since I'm going to have 4 joysticks because of those two games, I'm trying to come up with a usable 4 player layout in the space I have to work with.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 12:59:43 am
interesting I like the idea of having a 4 player control panel double for these type of games :-)  but seems like a lot of extra work for me.  I might just be able to remap some buttons for the firing of the gun for each player.  Won't be authentic, but will serve the purpose.  I been trying out smash TV, excellent game. I'll definitely be adding to my favorites.  Any other ideas on cool 2 player simultaneous games like this?
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: krick on January 10, 2005, 01:05:44 am
There might be a problem with remapping buttons for the firing.

*Supposedly*  (I haven't tried it) if you accidentally press the "fire left" and "fire right" at the same time (or up & down), the game crashes.


Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: zvar on January 10, 2005, 02:14:33 am
There is both of the Gauntlet games, they each have a 2-player rom (normally 4 player) that's co-operative.  The Dungeon and Dragon ones do too, although I'm not sure how well it works with just 2 players.
For that matter, you might want to take a look at all the 4-player games.  Most have a 2-player clone, and at least some are co-operative.

Steven
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: rsoandrew on January 10, 2005, 02:46:46 am
My kids love the Bubble Bobble series of games, Ribbit, BangBall and JJ squaker.

They are all two player and it eliminates a lot of fighting.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Apollo on January 10, 2005, 03:07:37 am
Bomberman is cool, me and my brother-in-law used to have hours of fun with it.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elvis on January 10, 2005, 05:25:58 am
There are a bazillion sports (basketball/soccer/football/tennis/etc) games in MAME, most of which are two player.

Plenty of two player shooters also.  DoDonPachi, Raiden, Gunbird and Gunbird2, etc, etc.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: quarterstringer on January 10, 2005, 07:08:08 am
Mario Bros and Super Sprint are two of my favorites. But you'll need spinners or steering wheels for Super Sprint.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 08:13:32 am
Bomberman is cool, me and my brother-in-law used to have hours of fun with it.

I love bomberman as well.  Strangely enough, I can't say I had ever played it two player.  Do both player 1 and player 2 play at the same time?
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 08:15:11 am
There are a bazillion sports (basketball/soccer/football/tennis/etc) games in MAME, most of which are two player.

Plenty of two player shooters also.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Goz on January 10, 2005, 08:25:55 am
Pretty much anything NEO*GEO

-Goz
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: captainpotato on January 10, 2005, 08:49:34 am
My brother came around last night and saw my (as yet unfinished) bartop. We had a great time playing:
- Track and Field;
- Hyper-Sporrts;
- Ironman Stewart's offroad racing;
- Gauntlet (until it kept crashing, that is);
- Bubble Bobble.

For the first two I've configured the prototype CP for them, whereas for the others the second player used a gamepad.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Stingray on January 10, 2005, 09:12:34 am
Pretty much anything NEO*GEO

-Goz

I was about to say the same thing. Blazing Star & the Metal Slugs are big favorites of mine.

-S
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: RayB on January 10, 2005, 09:26:32 am
There might be a problem with remapping buttons for the firing.

*Supposedly*
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: walls83 on January 10, 2005, 10:49:05 am
4 player Bomberman is a blast(no pun intended)  Even 2 player is fun. My wife and I play it all the time. Super Mario Bros was fun untill my wife became "Mario ass Kicker" she killes me in that game.

2 Player games my wife and I play.

Contra
Tetris
Bubble Bobble
Bomberman
Gradius (I dont know which version its the one where both play at the sametime.)
Toobin'
Total Carnage
Smash Tv
Gauntlet

Those are just a few.

Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: versapak on January 10, 2005, 11:09:36 am
Bomberman is cool, me and my brother-in-law used to have hours of fun with it.

I love bomberman as well. Strangely enough, I can't say I had ever played it two player. Do both player 1 and player 2 play at the same time?



If you have never played bomberman multiplayer, then you have never really played bomberman. You will LOVE it.


Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 10, 2005, 11:50:25 am
WTF, no one in this thread said METAL SLUG!! if you havent played Metal Slug on an arcade machine with sound blasted, guns blaring, buttons being rapidly pressed, then you havent lived
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: IMMark on January 10, 2005, 11:51:39 am
Don't forget where you started your list....Joust ( my all time favorite),
that has its sequel....Joust 2

another good cooperative game is Jackal.

Are there any other good simultaneous 2 player cooperative games (both players against the CPU, not against each other).
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: RayB on January 10, 2005, 01:22:57 pm
Why is Metal Slug so good? I remember trying to play it when the first one came out, and there was so much going on on the screen I would die very quickly. (Maybe I'm too old!)   ;D

Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Apollo on January 10, 2005, 01:33:05 pm
My wife and I play Chicken Shift together, did anyone mention that?
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: versapak on January 10, 2005, 01:34:58 pm
Quote
(Maybe I'm too old!)


That must be it. :P


heheh


The insane amount of nonstop action is what made it so great to me. Especially good with 2 players. Plus it has branching paths, multiple vehicles & their styles of play, and all those crazy enemy types, and the yummy food, and the... heheheh

Great game. :)




Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 10, 2005, 01:35:54 pm
Why is Metal Slug so good? I remember trying to play it when the first one came out, and there was so much going on on the screen I would die very quickly. (Maybe I'm too old!)
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: u_rebelscum on January 10, 2005, 01:47:11 pm
*Supposedly*  (I haven't tried it) if you accidentally press the "fire left" and "fire right" at the same time (or up & down), the game crashes.

This is absolutely true of the original JAMMA board. I used to own one in a cabinet with 4 buttons per player (in a diamond configuration). The question is, does it still crash in MAME?

No, it does not crash. 

Mame simulates physical joysticks by filtering inputs so the game cannot see opposites pressed at the same time.  This happens for the normal left, right, up, down, and dual stick left_left (ect), and right_left (ect) input types.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: missioncontrol on January 10, 2005, 01:57:26 pm
Mario Bros.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: RayB on January 10, 2005, 01:59:42 pm
Has anyone mentioned Street Fighter II?

There's also Atari Tetris. It's not really competitive 2 player, more like simultaneous 2 player.

Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Kremmit on January 10, 2005, 02:15:09 pm
Playable with one regular joy + buttons per player:

Two Tigers
Tetris
Altered Beast
Golden Axe
Mario Bros (not Super) - everybody forgets this one, it seems like.
Xybots (used special joysticks, but can be played fine with a regular joy + two rotation buttons)
Rampage (up to 3 players)
Silk Worm
...

Also try these, if you've got the controls:

Blasteroids, Pong (dual spinners)

House of the Dead, & all the lightgun games

Ikari Warriors, Time Soldiers, Heavy Barrel, etc.  (rotary joysticks)

Cabal  (dual trackballs)
Atari Football / X's & O's (dual trackballs)
Marble Madness (dual trackballs)

Can't agree enough about Smash TV, you can play that for hours.  If you've got the 4-stick setup for it, download Mutant Storm, too.  It's a PC game, not MAME, but it's a two-stick shooter like Smash TV, that plays well on a cab.  2-player Karate Champ is cool, too, but you're supposed to have 4-ways for it, so avoid the diagonals if you're using 8-ways.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: quarterback on January 10, 2005, 03:04:23 pm
WTF, no one in this thread said METAL SLUG!!

Blazing Star & the Metal Slugs are big favorites of mine.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Stingray on January 10, 2005, 03:22:25 pm
WTF, no one in this thread said METAL SLUG!!

Blazing Star & the Metal Slugs are big favorites of mine.

Thanks, I was just about to point that out. :)

-S
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 10, 2005, 03:49:17 pm
ah ok sorry didnt see that... but still it needed a larger credit. Metal Slug owns the 2P non fighting game play on my machine anyway, everyone loves it
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elvis on January 10, 2005, 05:10:51 pm
Not a big fighter fan or a double dragon, simpsons style game, as they lose their appeal very quickly.

Has anyone mentioned Street Fighter II?

No.  No-one mentioned it mainly due to the first post asking not to mention fighters. :)

During the 80's 2-player games where pretty much the norm.  Just about any game will allow a second player to join in simultaneously.  I would hazard a guess and say there's more simultaneous 2-player games than there are 1player and alternating 2-player.

This is the kind of thing where SortInfo would help enormously:

http://hem.passagen.se/robert.palmqvist/Downloads/downloads.html
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: NoOne=NBA= on January 10, 2005, 07:00:10 pm
One of my all-time favorites is Space Duel.
I built an entire swappable CP just for that one.

For those who haven't played it, it's basically two player Asteroids.
There are 2 modes for you to play.
The first has two separate ships, one for each player.
The really fun one is the one that has both ships linked together by a "rope".
If one guy thrusts, and the other doesn't, you end up in a spin around the rope.
That mode requires two players with alot of skill and coordination.

Another favorite of mine is Blasteroids, but it requires two spinners.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elpresidente on January 10, 2005, 07:26:32 pm
One of my all-time favorites is Space Duel.
I built an entire swappable CP just for that one.

For those who haven't played it, it's basically two player Asteroids.
There are 2 modes for you to play.
The first has two separate ships, one for each player.
The really fun one is the one that has both ships linked together by a "rope".
If one guy thrusts, and the other doesn't, you end up in a spin around the rope.
That mode requires two players with alot of skill and coordination.

Another favorite of mine is Blasteroids, but it requires two spinners.

That's the name of that game? I loved that one. Thanks for mentioning it. I might have to through a few extra spinners in my soon to be started cp (easily said  :laugh:).
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 10, 2005, 09:42:33 pm
Quote

This is the kind of thing where SortInfo would help enormously:

http://hem.passagen.se/robert.palmqvist/Downloads/downloads.html

Hmm I tried sort info. but I think it hasn't been updated to handle the xml output or something yet. I tried importing a list generated from the listxml and the listinfo command and just got gobldy gook :-/ I guess I need an older version of mame to import a list into sortinfo...
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elvis on January 11, 2005, 07:34:40 am
Hmm I tried sort info. but I think it hasn't been updated to handle the xml output or something yet. I tried importing a list generated from the listxml and the listinfo command and just got gobldy gook :-/ I guess I need an older version of mame to import a list into sortinfo...

It works fine. 

At a command prompt within your MAME dir type:

mame -listxml | xml2info > listinfo.txt

That command will create the old-style listinfo.  The xml2info.exe command was left behind for any frontend or rom/info utility that wasn't up to date with the MAME releases.  Handy that.

Now open SortInfo and click:

File -> Import -> MAME Listinfo file

select the listinfo.txt from whatever directory you created it in (probably your MAME dir) and all is well.  Sort the info to your heart's content.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: the3eyedblindman on January 11, 2005, 08:07:37 pm
Why is Metal Slug so good? I remember trying to play it when the first one came out, and there was so much going on on the screen I would die very quickly. (Maybe I'm too old!)
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Sephroth57 on January 11, 2005, 08:29:52 pm
pssh, Metal Slug owns... go play mappy =P
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Goz on January 11, 2005, 08:34:22 pm

I dont think metal slug is that great either, its the sound that makes it good. If it didnt have the cool noises, screams, gunfire, it would just be another average game.

Dude don't get me started on Moonwalker  ;)

The Metal Slug series is one of those that I can use to justify one of my cabs as a cardiovascular work out machine. The sound, the non stop action, the unbeatable odds, the puking zombies, mummys, and other cool stuff.....

-Goz
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: SOAPboy on January 11, 2005, 09:09:13 pm
thanks for the suggestions.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: the3eyedblindman on January 12, 2005, 12:01:37 am

I dont think metal slug is that great either, its the sound that makes it good. If it didnt have the cool noises, screams, gunfire, it would just be another average game.

Dude don't get me started on Moonwalker
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 12, 2005, 12:33:45 am
Hmm I tried sort info. but I think it hasn't been updated to handle the xml output or something yet. I tried importing a list generated from the listxml and the listinfo command and just got gobldy gook :-/ I guess I need an older version of mame to import a list into sortinfo...

It works fine.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 12, 2005, 12:35:38 am
thanks for the suggestions.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: Silver on January 12, 2005, 01:02:03 am

mame -listxml | xml2info > listinfo.txt

hmm using the pipe "|" is a unix command and will not work under windows/dos, and where can I find the program xml2info... Do you have an equivalent windows/dos command that will work?

That command works just fine at a command prompt in windows.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elvis on January 12, 2005, 03:23:38 am

hmm using the pipe "|" is a unix command and will not work under windows/dos, and where can I find the program xml2info... Do you have an equivalent windows/dos command that will work?

edited for spelling :-)

What the???

Pipe works just fine in DOS6, Win98 (DOS7), FreeDOS, and true Win32 (win2k/xp).

How about you try it out before telling me I'm wrong.  I do this sort of command-line stuff for a living, you know.  ;D  Not only that, but I tested the above steps on a WinXP box before hitting "post" to make sure I wasn't giving you dud info.  Did you test them yourself?  Doesn't sound like it.

"xml2info.exe" is included in every standard mame release since the xml output was invented.  Open your eyes and have a look!

I do hope you're pulling my leg...  :o
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: MiKman on January 12, 2005, 08:54:14 am
hmm strange xml2info isn't in my mame32 release, I can't say that I have ever seen it... I guess I'll go looking for it.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: wakerlet on January 12, 2005, 04:23:03 pm
We have a MAME machine at our office and, I kid you not, HAT TRICK gets something like 95% of the playing time.
Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: elvis on January 12, 2005, 05:17:10 pm
hmm strange xml2info isn't in my mame32 release, I can't say that I have ever seen it... I guess I'll go looking for it.  I did try it and it failed on that command, I wasn't just guessing that it wouldn't work really I wasn't :-) lol ( The pipe was a guess tho :angel: )

Grab the official MAME release  (as opposed to MAME32).  It's definitely in there.

http://www.mame.net/downmain.html

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Title: Re: 2 player games (at same time)
Post by: SNAAKE on January 13, 2005, 08:55:52 am
Cadillacs and dinosaurs(TRY IT)
Captain comando
Warrior of fate
Alien vs predetor
Violent storm
64 st
Hook
Sunset riders
Dungeon of dragon
Knight of rounds
Final fight
Forgotten world
Sengoku(1-2-3)
Un squrdon
Carrier air wings
Saturday night slammasters

I know you are not a fan but you might wanna try these !