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Title: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on December 30, 2004, 11:51:29 pm
This being the holidays means I don't work, which means I have time for "stuff". One of these being designing my control panel art...

I don't consider this finished, but wouldn't mind people's initial impressions:

Title: Re: Opinions on my CP design!
Post by: Bones on December 31, 2004, 12:08:20 am
I like it. Simple yet very stylish and retro looking. How do the colours and design fit in with the rest of your cab?

Title: Re: Opinions on my CP design!
Post by: BobbyG66 on December 31, 2004, 11:06:39 am
Looks finished to me! Great job.
It's original, but at the same time looks like it is artwork from a 'real' machine.
Title: Re: Opinions on my CP design!
Post by: RayB on December 31, 2004, 06:05:40 pm
I like it. Simple yet very stylish and retro looking. How do the colours and design fit in with the rest of your cab?

Thanks. "Retro" is what I am aiming for. The sides of the cab will be white with a retro art design (using a limited number of colors. Probably blue, purple, an in-between color, and black).

I am a perfectionist, so here is yet another CP design:
(is it too busy?)

Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: walls83 on December 31, 2004, 06:51:55 pm
both are very nice.  I would raise the player 1 and player 2 buttons so they are more in the middle of the bar and not at the bottom. I hope I explained that good enough.  Leave the buttons were they are width wise but move them up height wise.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on December 31, 2004, 08:24:32 pm
I would raise the player 1 and player 2 buttons so they are more in the middle of the bar and not at the bottom.

Walls: Unfortunately, I can't move those buttons higher because the upper part of the control panel rests against the backglass and a wood support underneath.

But here is yet another variation of the design! And in this one I balanced the buttons' placement with the word "PLAYER"...

Next step is to combine the best features of all 3 layouts.  :)
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: darkmavis on December 31, 2004, 10:01:51 pm
really like em dude! fancy making me one in that style for  a  4 player tennage nibna cab?
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: ericball on January 01, 2005, 09:40:19 am
I like the player/spinner from CP_03b and the joystick from CP_04 (though I suppose the Player text is redundant).
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: missioncontrol on January 01, 2005, 11:57:18 am
I like CP # 3 the best.....very nice job
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 01, 2005, 12:15:48 pm
I like CP # 3 the best.....very nice job

The 3rd one I posted, or the first one with the filename "my_CP_03b.jpg" ?

Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: missioncontrol on January 01, 2005, 04:25:52 pm
I like CP # 3 the best.....very nice job

The 3rd one I posted, or the first one with the filename "my_CP_03b.jpg" ?




the 3rd one you posted......
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: arcadegeezer on January 02, 2005, 06:16:17 pm
Hi

Nice Job !

I really like CP3 the best - has a really nice Atari Asteroids feel with the alternate line design @ the top. complements the Atari button design perfectly !

Well Done.

Would you be able to share a full size version maybe ?

I would like to use a similar design !

What have you used to create this ?

 8)
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Minwah on January 03, 2005, 10:39:51 am
I think I like the 2nd one best, 3rd is nice too...

All of them look really good :)
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Ad_Enuff on January 03, 2005, 10:44:24 am
I like the 3rd version best but with the SPINNER elements combined into it from the 1st.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Pixelhugger on January 03, 2005, 02:37:20 pm
They're all really nice. Overall I like ver. 2 (CP04) the best... though I really like the lines and circles at the top of ver. 1, which give it a very authentic retro look. Like Geezer said very Atari.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 03, 2005, 03:33:41 pm
To those who asked what I used to make this: Illustrator 9.

As for making variations of this for others, that might be possible. I haven't yet decided if I want to donate the file or not... (sorry, I hope that doesn't come off as very selfish?) but if I can find time, I may be able to make some versions for people.

~Ray B.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Ad_Enuff on January 03, 2005, 03:59:22 pm
I haven't yet decided if I want to donate the file or not... (sorry, I hope that doesn't come off as very selfish?)

Yes, yes it does!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 03, 2005, 08:57:14 pm
Here are a couple variations combining the 1st design's spinner art with the 2 other designs. (refer to these as 6a and 6b)
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Minwah on January 04, 2005, 05:30:57 am
I like 6a best - I'm all for straight lines, not so keen on the curved parts in 6b.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Ad_Enuff on January 04, 2005, 05:50:14 am
I like 6a but it has overlap issues with the spinner.

Talking about SPINNER's again, I liked the spinner arrows from above which are now absent from both 6a or 6b.

But its certainly getting there. Nice creative work.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Goz on January 04, 2005, 07:54:59 am
6A Baby... Love the work

-Goz
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Minwah on January 04, 2005, 08:43:56 am
I like 6a but it has overlap issues with the spinner.

Talking about SPINNER's again, I liked the spinner arrows from above which are now absent from both 6a or 6b.

I didn't notice the overlap initially...but yes I also liked the arrows...
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: ras2a on January 04, 2005, 11:01:07 am
I like it, I like it a lot.  Sweet colour scheme!
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Crowquill on January 04, 2005, 07:04:49 pm
I'd definitely say the first one you posted is the most "authentic" looking and my favorite.

One thing that bothers me a bit is the outlines on the "button stripes". Since they're not repeated anywhere else in the design they stand out a bit. Maybe they could just be outlined in the background color. This will theoretically make them a bit more subdued and blend in with the rest of the panel more. I'm guessing you were going for emphasis, but the colored buttons alone are going to make them stand out a lot. I like only having the four colors used in the overlay. Outlining them in white might look really nice if some of the other elements (joy arrows, bars at top) used similar white outlines and lines. From what I remember, many of the Atari CPOs used a lot of outlines.

You might also try horizontally flipping the left "button stripes" so they're shooting up from the lower-left. This would isolate player 1's artwork to the left half of the CP.

The only other practical thing I worry about is if you allowed room in the design for dust washers for the joysticks. I don't know if you're planning on recessing them or not using them at all for that matter, but if they will be sitting on top they may cover the arrows a bit.

Most of the other designs have too many unrelated elements/colors or things going in too many directions. I think these make it look busier than it needs to be. They're all good parts, but together they just seem a bit much.

Altogether It's one of the best I've seen. Just thought I'd try to give some constructive criticism.

Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 04, 2005, 09:21:34 pm
Thanks for the input Crowquill.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 04, 2005, 10:32:52 pm
Here are a few variations of CP 3 based on Crowquill's crits...
This as far as I'm gonna go for now on this... Next up is Side-art and Marquee... I'll do final tweaks on all three to make sure everything "fits".

Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 04, 2005, 10:33:30 pm
one more...
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Crowquill on January 08, 2005, 02:15:37 pm
The streaking from opposite corners version is definitely too much. That's one of the best parts of designing on the computer...try something then just UNDO if it doesn't work.

The last one I like the best. The white adds a bit more punch to the arrows. I was actually thinking about making the black outline around the button trails white as well. It's the only black on there right now. You also might try making a white outline around the spinner arrow to be consistant.

While adding white to the design, you might try adding white to the top lined section. It'll probably be too much though. Maybe alternate light-blue, white instead of light blue, dark blue.

Sorry it took so long to reply--especially after variations were named after me
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: mahuti on January 09, 2005, 02:43:38 pm
No clear favorite for me. Just wanted to comment on the great work.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: darkmavis on January 09, 2005, 02:52:56 pm
i just love this design  it will look exellent on the cp! im jealous :D
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on January 09, 2005, 03:57:05 pm
Crow: Good point about the black not being used...

I've attached a mock-up of the cab with one of the CP designs (this is strictly Photoshop)
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Wyluli on January 09, 2005, 04:37:24 pm
Looks awesome Ray! 
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: BobbyG66 on January 10, 2005, 08:51:22 am
Looks good on a cab, make sure you make a marquee to match.

For sideart you could paint on some stripes for the whole atari type effect.

good luck.
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: Felsir on February 01, 2005, 12:57:27 pm
I love this one! I really like the freshness of this design! I keep wondering why I haven't seen this thread earlier...
Title: Re: Opinions: RayB's CP design!
Post by: RayB on November 09, 2005, 10:37:21 pm
WOW hard to believe it was January when I last worked on this!

Well, I need to have this printed ASAP, so I'm finalizing the design. Here is the latest revision. The top 2 or so inches are going to fold over the top of the panel and not be visible. The bottom 2.5 inches is the part that is visible on the front of the cab (the overlay will bend 90 degrees and cover 2.5 inches on the front). I still need to figure out what to put in that area.

Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on November 09, 2005, 10:40:36 pm
Some people have been asking me about the art file. The answer is YES, I will release this file or portions of it, but only after I'm done and have printed it. I need to be sure that my measurements are accurate, as I don't want to screw up other people.
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on November 09, 2005, 10:43:05 pm
I did a test of what it will look like with carriage bolts.
I don't like it. I might have to resort to t-nuts.


Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: TurboC-- on November 14, 2005, 06:12:01 pm
6a was the best.  It has a nice layered effect and everything looked good on it, the straight lines are best, except you need to deal with the centering of the spinner graphic.  And the top "Player 1" and "Player 2" are better off not there (the little people are fine.) 
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: Hoopz on November 14, 2005, 07:43:13 pm
I did a test of what it will look like with carriage bolts.
I don't like it. I might have to resort to t-nuts.


I would say DONT use the carriage bolts.  You dont want to ruin the excellent design of the artwork by having carriage bolts up there.
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: Crowquill on November 19, 2005, 01:36:59 pm
Lookin' good!

Can you repeat the light blue lines (where it says Amusement 360) on the bottom section? You'll probably need some type of hard edge so the bottom of the button "streaks" come from somewhere. Here's what I'm thinking:

I stole the bottom area out of one of the eariler panels, so the blue isn't quite right. I'm thinking it should match the top.
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: gdilly on November 21, 2005, 05:34:25 pm
Maybe some stupid questions but here goes anyways:

1:  What kind of material will you use  for the overlay?  Bumping against it and general use would certainly smug the ink?

2:  What do you plan on using instead of carriage bolts?  How are you going to attach the panel without them?
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on November 21, 2005, 05:38:07 pm
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Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on November 22, 2005, 02:51:41 am
I finalized the art and sent it off to MameMarquees.
Below is what the final design looks like. I valued all input even if in the end I didn't use your suggestion.

(if the design looks a bit taller than before, the bottom 2 1/2" fold down and cover the front of th CP)
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on November 22, 2005, 02:52:57 am
PS: The more I look at the above art without my colored buttons, the more I think it would look cool with white buttons instead...

Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on December 09, 2005, 10:38:10 am
Here is the final printed overlay:
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on December 09, 2005, 10:40:33 am
I am very happy with the quality of the print job, but wow, you can really see some color shifting now that the two are side-by-side.

In any case, I will of course use what I got. No one will know (but me and you folks
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: mahuti on December 09, 2005, 11:49:37 am
My advice. Don't use deep blues & purples.. the most difficult for a printer to get correct.

If you don't like the colors.. let Scott know. He has worked with many people to get the colors correct. I think Scott asks for files to be in RGB mode, but you can ask him. Hey may have some sort of rip / print station that converts everything to CMYK anyway, so RGB might be the best for that. I always work in CMYK if I'm going to print to a CMYK printer. Scott's printer may have more colors or some completely different process though, so let him know
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on December 09, 2005, 02:53:41 pm
My advice. Don't use deep blues & purples.. the most difficult for a printer to get correct.
Noted!

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If you don't like the colors.. let Scott know. He has worked with many people to get the colors correct. I think Scott asks for files to be in RGB mode, but you can ask him. Hey may have some sort of rip / print station that converts everything to CMYK anyway, so RGB might be the best for that. I always work in CMYK if I'm going to print to a CMYK printer. Scott's printer may have more colors or some completely different process though, so let him know

No, no way am I gonna complain to Scott. He already did several test prints to get the colors good and we exchanged a few emails during the process. I told him I was happy with the results. End of story. The guy charges us very little for the amount of work he puts into this.

I was merely looking for advice for my next projects.
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: missioncontrol on December 10, 2005, 05:37:55 am
looks good RayB
Title: Re: RayB's CP design! *Update*
Post by: RayB on December 21, 2005, 01:20:00 pm
This thread is pretty much done. CP has been applied.
Here is the project thread:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=21381.40