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Title: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 01:03:56 am: hi there, im trying to design myself a control layout for a 4 player console. i need suggestions as of what all to include.

so far i figure i will need:

4 joysticks
6 buttons per player
1-4 player start buttons
2 pause buttons on either side of the console top
1 button mounted on top of the cab to turn everything on/off
1 trackball

also, do i connect a trackball in the same manner as i would the sticks and buttons; to the ipac, or do i need to buy an optipac too?
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: RayB on December 29, 2004, 01:21:05 am: You need an opti-pac or a mouse-hack for the trackball, and as for players 3 and 4 I keep hearing you don't need more than 3 or 4 buttons, cuz there are no 4 player fighting games.
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 01:23:19 am: isnt marvel vs capcom 4 player fighting, i think tekken tag is too

actually i may be wrong
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 01:47:41 am: 4 joysticks- Yes, its a 4 player panel
6 buttons per player - 6 buttons for P1 & P2, 4 buttons for P3 & P4
1-4 player start buttons - Yep
2 pause buttons on either side of the console top - Not really needed
1 button mounted on top of the cab to turn everything on/off - Sure
1 trackball - Yes

You may want to add 4 coin buttons for each player too.

Buttons and joysticks require a Keyboard Encoder to hook up (Example: IPAC/4)

Trackball requires a Opti-pac or a mouse hack will do.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 01:48:25 am: Quote from: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 01:23:19 am
isnt marvel vs capcom 4 player fighting, i think tekken tag is too

actually i may be wrong

No they are not..
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 01:52:51 am: thanks for your replys, could you give me a link to some info on the mouse hack?

i saw on one persons layout, they had a few "admin buttons"...any idea what they might be?

and lastly, how many spinners should i have, would you think?
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:41:19 am: Yes Tekken Tag is 4 player,
not sure about MvsC2 for (which system)? but it's possible
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 11:07:04 am: Quote from: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:41:19 am
Yes Tekken Tag is 4 player,
not sure about MvsC2 for (which system)? but it's possible

Hmm... http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=10063
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 11:09:45 am: Quote from: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 01:52:51 am
thanks for your replys, could you give me a link to some info on the mouse hack?

i saw on one persons layout, they had a few "admin buttons"...any idea what they might be?

and lastly, how many spinners should i have, would you think?

If you spend 5 mins using the search feature on this site, then you'll find the answers.

Mouse hack - http://www.oscarcontrols.com/DPDTswitch.shtml

Admin buttons - ESC, Pause, 0 - K buttons ;D

1 spinner would be fine.
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: unclet on December 29, 2004, 11:44:13 am: I would add two pinball buttons (left/right flippers) on the side on the control panel as well as adding individual CoinUp buttons for player1->4.

I have two pause buttons and they come in handy so either player on each side of the board can hit the pause button easily without reaching too far across a 4-player control panel.

My admin buttons include Tab, Tilda, Esc, Enter, Reset

PS: I do not believe you need 'O' and 'K' buttons since moving the joystick of player1 right, then left (or is it the other way around??) will perform the 'O'+'K' function as disired.

You can check out my 4-player control panel layout at my site:

http://unclet.arcadecontrols.com

Good Luck...
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: Xetrov on December 29, 2004, 12:49:57 pm: UncleT...you my friend, are a badass.

that 6 way rotating cab is awesome. thanks for the replys, im going to run off and design it now. you guys have been most helpful
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: unclet on December 29, 2004, 02:22:56 pm: Thanks for the props ...... good luck on your project
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:58:29 pm: Quote from: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 11:07:04 am
Quote from: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:41:19 am
Yes Tekken Tag is 4 player,
not sure about MvsC2 for (which system)? but it's possible

Hmm... http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=10063

Hmm... http://ps2.ign.com/articles/163/163946p1.html?fromint=1
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 08:02:34 pm: Quote from: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:58:29 pm
Quote from: GGKoul on December 29, 2004, 11:07:04 am
Quote from: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 07:41:19 am
Yes Tekken Tag is 4 player,
not sure about MvsC2 for (which system)? but it's possible

Hmm... http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=T&game_id=10063

Hmm... http://ps2.ign.com/articles/163/163946p1.html?fromint=1

Thats a nice PS2 review of Tekken Tag. As the arcade version is 2 players only.
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 08:09:36 pm: Ok?
Whats the arcade version have to do with it?
The PS2/console version is 4 player
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: GGKoul on December 30, 2004, 01:23:59 am: Quote from: subzero23 on December 29, 2004, 08:09:36 pm
Ok?
Whats the arcade version have to do with it?
The PS2/console version is 4 player

Thank you for proving my point... for a mame machine, you only need 4 buttons max for P3 & P4.
Title: Re: 4 Player Console Controls
Post by: Xetrov on December 30, 2004, 03:49:00 am: we established this like 4 replys ago ;D