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Main => Monitor/Video Forum => Topic started by: menace on November 28, 2004, 08:15:25 pm
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I'm compiling a list of common arcade tubes and their resistance values across the vertical and horizontal coils. My goal is to have database set up (excel spreadsheet) of tube values so that if you find yourself with more chassis than tubes, you can find a suitable donor tube and re-use those old chassis'. Here's what i have so far:
Pentranic 1425
K7000 19"
G07
K4616
K7191
K4951
Sadly these are all in my basement (much to her dismay :-[)
So if you have a hantarex, other wells gardner or whatever please get a reading next time you get a chance and send it to me and I will include it on the master list (which I will attach to the FAQ for future reference).
thanks!
edit: Summary of readings will be kept in the FAQ and I will update them as they come in to this thread
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This is a great idea.
Now if I can just figure out which setting on my multimeter is resistance...
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I don't know anything about monitors, but have about 20 games in my basement. I didn't know it was that easy to swap chassis, (from a compatibility point of view). Seems like good information to have. If it's easy, I would love to help. Just tell me how, or link to a page that does. Or if you are on Long Island, you are welcome to come measure away yourself.
Steve
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yeah i thought people would like to have this info and i'm surprised it hasn't been compiled to date considering how alot of this stuff is getting parted out and what not. Here's what i did to get the values (i take no responsibility or even blame if someone elctrocutes themselves)
If possible i discharged the monitor--then measured the red/blue (for horiz) and yellow/grn (for vertical) using the 200ohms settings on the digital multimeter.
NOT RECOMMENDED: where the monitor was in a game i unplugged the game, and measured the color points off the yoke to get the readings--without touching anything else. worked fine--again not recommended and if you do do it--give the game time to sit (a few hours a t least) before trying this as i have no idea if there are normally errant voltages int he yoke when its off.
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So it's okay to measure off the back of the neckboard after you discharge?
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after you discharge you should be 98% safe (there may be some residual charges left in the larger caps on the main chassis board) but yeah. For the purposes of this info gathering i would need the yoke ohm readings--its usually 1 plug with 4 wires that can only be plugged in one way and is directly connected to the yoke of the tube. found a pic on the web to clarify--not the best though... :P
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Oh, okay. I understand. I'll dig around and see what I got.
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I have some more info on more models, but I also log the yoke wire colors (some makes/models use different colors), picture tube type number (and pin count) yoke dc resistance, etc. as it helps if doing an 8liners transplant.
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Excellent! Send it along and I will add the info to the FAQ
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Here is the information I have so far and some models I have more information and some less info:
Sharp XM-2001:
CRT: Sharp # 510YWB22, 8 pin, 22.5mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapater: CR-31
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 15 ohms
Sanyo 20-EZ:
CRT: # 510UTB22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 50 ohms
Wells-Gardner 19K7600:
CRT: Phillips # A48ABK05X, 8 pin, 22.5 mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-31
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 13 ohms
Nanao MS7-20S (Sega # 200-5072):
CRT: Mitsubishi # 510WUB22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2.5 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: yellow & brown, 50 ohms
Wells-Gardner 19K4600 series:
CRT: # 19VJTP22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Vertical Yoke winding: 9 ohms
Wells-Gardner 19K4900 series:
CRT: # 19VLTP22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Vertical yoke winding: did not get to measure this
Electrohome G07 (19"):
CRT: # 19VJTP22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red (pin1) & white (pin 4)
Vertical yoke: Grey (pin 3) & Brown (pin 5), 50 ohms
Kortek KT-1420A:
CRT: Samsung # 51GGB95X-TG, 10 pin, 29mm dia. neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 50 ohms
Atari/A.D.I. "Disco" DMC2090DT:
CRT: Phillips # 19VMRP22, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 50 ohms
Hantarex MTC 900/E:
CRT: Samsung # 5109B22 or Toshiba 510UEB22, 10 pin
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke: orange (pin 5) & yellow (pin 6), 2.5 ohms
Vertical yoke: Brown (pin 1) & red (pin 2), 15 ohms
Ducksan (Merit type 20 old version):
CRT: Orion # A34JLL90X55, 8 pin, 22.5 mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-31
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 4 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 17 ohms
Hantarex MTC 9000:
CRT: Orion # A48JRV70X12, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: orange & white, 2.5 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: brown & red, 14 ohms
Zanen Electronics capkit # 802
Happ Controls KJ-1915:
CRT: LG # A48QAD220X, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2.5 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: yellow & orange, 15 ohms
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Just a thought... if you're measuring coils... aren't you going to need an impedance mesurement (Henrys) as well?
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No, I'm quoting DC resistance measurements for the yoke windings as most people here don't have or know what an "Impedance meter" is. Most people here do have an ohmmeter or multimeter handy. I'm just trying to keep it simple for everyone here.
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bless you for that ;D
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Additional model:
SHARP XM-1801
CRT: Sharp # 470NVB22, 8 pin, 22.5 mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-31
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow, 15 ohms
Yoke part number: H1394CE
Flyback part number: F1408CE (4111A)
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Would anyone be interested in having information like this to a posted in a more "permanent" home? I'd be willing to create a database for it but I don't wanna do it if nobody's gonna use it
Dave
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thanks david--Its in the monitor FAQ--and I hope it becomes a permanent home--if for some reason it can't be kept there then i'll drop you a PM.
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LOOKING FOR: Hantarex Polo 25"--if you have one can you send me the tube readings?
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Additional model:
Wells-Gardner 19K7300 series.
CRT: Samsung # A48KRD89X02, 10 pin, 29mm diameter neck
B&K Rejuvenator adapter: CR-23
Horizontal yoke winding: red & blue wires, 2 ohms
Vertical yoke winding: green & yellow wires, 14 ohms
This model is made in Wells-Gardner's Korea plant and has an additional model code on the chassis of WGZ1973-xxxxxxx (x's indicate frame style). This monitor also has a built-in switching power supply and does not need an isolation transformer.
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woops--almost missed that--updated.
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For the Hantarex Polo 25" monitor:
Hantarex POLO:
CRT is RCA # A63ADT10X05 10 pin
B&K Rejuvenator adapter is #23
Horizontal yoke wire color Orange / Yellow 1.7 ohms
Vertical yoke wire color Red / Brown 5.7 ohms
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This is going to sound really stupid.
In a practical application, if you have a tube A but no board, how do you figure which compatible board goes with it?
I understand the CRT model in each monitor model is noted. But didn't one company leverage different CRT manufacturers and different boards for some of their monitor models? I remember reading about how one monitor model either came with the OEM or Zenith guts and swapping these are out of the question.
What I'm saying is. Isn't there the possibility that you can have Tube A in a chassis for Tube B? I might have at least one monitor CRT in my possession that seems to be missing any identication. I've had to extrapolate what it is based on the butchered board attached.
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Does this help?? If I only knew how to attach a file/spreadsheet it would make more sense.
By the way, most important is impedance, resistance is very mis leading with the most important thing Horizontal.
Your meter leads alone can sway these by an ohm or so.
You can actualy by an inductance/ capacitance meter for less than $50 I will have to find the website again and will post it later along with how to take the readings.
Meanwhile Standard Res yokes should read 1.0 to 1.35 mh horiz
Mid res .45 to .75
VGA around .3
Tri-res .24 to ,31
SVGA and lower .2 and lower
This is where some manufactures like K...t and N...t Screwed up. Don't follow this and overheated yokes and blown HOT's
Good Luck
Rick Nieman
www.niemandisplays.com
Size Manufacturer Man. Type Pentranic # Deg DY Type Freq Pinfree LH Rh Lv Rv Comments
14" Chungwa E2971B22 ZEC-960127 VGA No 0.39 0.5 7.3 7.3 Acceptable for 14" VGA/SVGA monitor
14" Phillips M34EDC13X AT1610/36/F04 VGA No 0.37 0.5 5.5 5.7 Acceptable for 14" VGA/SVGA monitor
17" Phillips M41EEM211X360 AT6050/61 VGA YES 0.39 0.5 7.8 3.5 Acceptable for 17" VGA/SVGA monitor
19" RCA M47AGW37X03 90 48F2EGB/00 VGA YES 0.4 0.5 16.9 8.2 Acceptable for VGA monitor
19" Chungwa M48AHF11X01 90 DMX-0101C1 VGA YES 0.38 0.6 7.9 3.7 Acceptable for VGA monitor
19" RCA A48AAB13X02 A48PNT11X 90 OE-9530 CGA YES 1.8 1.9 28 12 Acceptable for 19V monitor CGA
19" RCA A48AAB13X02 A48PNT11X 90 DAG4183M CGA YES 1.95 2.3 27.4 12.6 Acceptable for CGA monitor
19" RCA A48AAB13X A48PNT11X 90 DAG4079M VGA YES 0.4 0.6 4.8 2.7 Acceptable for 19V VGA monitor
19" RCA A48AAB13X A48PNT11X 90 DAG4150M CGA YES 1.94 2.4 27.1 12.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
19" RCA A48AAB13X02 A48PNT06X 90 51F1TRZ/00 CGA YES 3.12 3.6 23.3 11.7 D-Yoke is not acceptable with CGA
19" Chungwa A48AGY13X57 90 ZEC-72013C2 VGA YES 0.39 0.4 7.4 2.9 Yoke for 20" VGA mon. with VGA chass
19" Chungwa A48AGY13X57 90 ZEC-72003 CGA YES 1.89 1.8 28.3 13.6 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 DAR4125 CGA YES 2.46 3.2 19.6 10.4 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 DAR4171M CGA YES 1.9 2.3 20.8 10.6 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 KDY3NE828Y CGA YES 2.4 2.9 19.8 11.5 For TV Skyworth we exchange harness
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 KDY3NE828Y CGA YES 2.4 2.9 70.9 44.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51PNT12X 100 330P15202 CGA YES 2.49 3 22.6 9.8 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 ZEC-980717 CGA YES 2.2 3.4 84 50 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51PNT 100 330P15202 CGA YES 2.19 2.5 22.7 9.9 Acceptable for CGA monitor
20" Amec A51KQN011X A51PNT09X 90 KDY3NEB26Y CGA YES 2.4 3 18.5 10.8 Harness is ready to Skyworth TV chass
21" Zenith A51ACB02X CE-9540 CGA YES 2.1 2.3 35.5 17.2 Acceptable for CGA monitor
26" Mitsubishi A66PNT 100 P666B10 CGA YES 1.3 1.1 18.1 7.7 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" Phillips A63AFW32X A63PNT14X 100 DAJ5058M CGA YES 0.595 0.6 19.4 7.7 Acceptable for EGA/CGA monitor
25" Phillips A63AFW20X A63PNT14X 100 DAJ5058M CGA YES 0.595 0.6 19.4 7.7 Acceptable for EGA/CGA monitor
26" Phillips A63AFW38X A63PNT14X 100 AT6025 CGA YES 1.34 1.4 18.2 8.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
26" Phillips A63AFW32X A63PNT14X 100 AT6025 CGA YES 1.34 1.4 18.2 8.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
26" Phillips A63AFW20X A63PNT14X 100 AT6025 CGA YES 1.34 1.4 18.2 8.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" Phillips A63AFW32X A63PNT14X 100 DAJ5025M CGA YES 1.29 1.2 19.5 7.7 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" RCA A63ADT15X05 A63PNT13X 110 2G27009-05A CGA YES 1.2 1.5 17.7 5.4 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" RCA A63ADT15X05 A63PNT13X 110 2G27007-515 CGA YES 1.2 1.3 17.5 5.3 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" RCA A63AHC26X A63PNT12X 100 AT6025 CGA YES 1.3 1.4 18.6 8.7 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" RCA A63ADT15X09 A63PNT13X 110 63T1DVZ/00 CGA YES 1.26 1.4 9.7 3.1 Not suitable for CGA
27" RCA A68AEG25X01 A68PNT18X 110 2G27007535 CGA NO 1.2 1.1 20.6 7.4 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" RCA A68AEG25X01 A68PNT18X 110 2G27007519 CGA NO 0.94 0.9 20.1 7.3 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" RCA A68AEG25X01 A68PNT18X 110 2G27007-30A EGA/CGA NO 0.6 0.6 20.5 7.6 Acceptable for CGA/EGA monitor
27" RCA A68AEG25X01 A68PNT18X 110 68Q2UB2/00 VGA NO 0.24 0.3 23 9.2 Acceptable for VGA monitor. VGA only
27" RCA A68PNT15X 2G2701203B CGA YES 0.97 1.1 17.3 5.4 Acceptable for 29" CGA monitor & TV
27" RCA A68ADT31X01 A68PNT15X 110 2G27012-20B CGA YES 1.16 1.3 17.8 5.8 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" RCA A68ADT31X01 A68PNT15X 68T1DSZ/00 CGA YES 1.3 1.4 17.9 5.4 Acceptable for 29" CGA monitor & TV
20" RCA A51PNT12X DAG4183M YES 1.9 2.4 27.2 12.6 Vertical coils paralled connected
27" RCA A68PNT15X 110 68T1DSZ/00 CGA YES 1.3 1.4 17.5 5.4 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AHD32X 368048-1 CGA YES 1.3 1.4 17.6 7.2 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68AHD32X A68PNT22X 100 DAS6169M VGA YES 0.24 0.03 5.9 2.6 Acceptable for VGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AHB82X A68PNT20X DAS6078M CGA YES 1.38 1.7 19.5 6.9 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AGN32X A68PNT20X DAS6078M CGA YES 1.38 1.7 19.5 6.9 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AHB82X01 A68PNT20X DAS6078M CGA YES 1.38 1.7 19.5 6.9 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AGN32X A68PNT20X 100 DAS6095M CGA YES 0.9 1.1 19.4 7.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AHB82X A68PNT20X 100 DAS6095M CGA YES 0.9 1.1 19.4 7.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
29" Phillips A68AHB82X01 A68PNT20X 100 DAS6095M CGA YES 0.9 1.1 19.4 7.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68PNT20X 100 DAS6075M CGA YES 1.37 1.7 19.8 7.7 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68AGL12X A68PNT21X 100 DAS6054M CGA YES 1.32 1.5 14.5 6.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68AGL02X A68PNT21X 100 DAS6054M CGA YES 1.32 1.5 14.5 6.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68PNT20X 100 368005-11 CGA YES 1.38 2.1 17.9 7 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68AHB82X A68PNT20X 100 601418-001 CGA YES 1.37 2.1 17.3 7.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68AJB82X/03 A68PNT22X 100 AT7027 CGA YES 1.3 1.4 17.6 6.9 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68KTY161X 110 KDY4UW739F CGA NO 1.14 1.2 20 8.2 Yoke is not suitable with CRT
27" Amec 110 YS-59293 CGA NO 0.96 1.5 21.4 7.4 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68LGL061X A68PNT23X 100 KY5UT423 CGA YES 1.24 1.5 11.3 5.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68LGL061X A68PNT23X 100 KDY5UT601M CGA YES 1.16 1.5 17.5 8.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68JXR195X A68JUA68X 110 DYGU21M CGA NO 0.96 1 17.5 7.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68LGL061X A68PNT23X 100 KDY5UTA CGA YES 1.31 1.8 17.8 8.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 KDY4VL888M CGA NO 0.94 1.1 20.6 8.6 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 KDY4VL876M CGA NO 0.97 1.1 24.4 11.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 KDY4VL826M CGA NO 1 1.2 22.7 9.8 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 DKY4VL706M CGA NO 0.97 1.1 24.2 10.3 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Phillips A68AHD82X15 World Wide 0.942 1.1 18.07 7.2
32" Amec M80JUA061X A8OPNT32X 110 KDY4VL690M CGA NO 0.89 1 22.2 9.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Phillips A80EFF272X53 110 AT6070/52 CGA NO 1 1.1 9 6.3 Acceptable for CGA monitor
31" RCA A73AEJ10X01 A79PNT25X 110 79L1ULZ/01 CGA NO 0.95 1.1 17.5 7.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" RCA A79PNT25X 110 79L1UBZ/P CGA NO 0.95 1 24.3 9.2 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" RCA A80PNT29X 110 79L1UBZ/P CGA NO 0.95 1 24.3 9.2 Acceptable for CGA monitor
32" Amec M80JUA06X A80PNT32X 110 KY4VL055M3 CGA NO 0.96 1 24.1 10 Yoke to close to set-up purity & conver.
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 KY4VL460Y CGA NO 0.95 1.1 24.1 10.3 Yoke to close to set-up purity & conver.
32" RCA A79AEJ10X01 A79PNT25X 110 89L1LLZ/03 CGA NO 0.75 0.9 17.4 7.2 Acceptable for switchable EGA/CGA
32" RCA A80PNT29X 110 89L1LLP/00 CGA/EGA NO 0.73 0.9 17.2 7.2 Acceptable for switchable EGA/CGA
32" RCA A80PNT29X 110 89L2UBZ VGA NO 0.24 0.3 6.1 2.4 Used above D-Yoke for 32V VGA mon.
32" RCA A89AFF15X03 A89PNT30X 110 89L2UQP/00 VGA NO 0.23 0.2 14.6 6.4 VGA and SVGA 35V monitor
35" RCA A89AFF15X03 A89PNT30X 110 89L2UBZ VGA NO 0.24 0.3 6.1 2.4 Acceptable for VGA monitor
35" RCA A89PNT30X 110 89L1LLZ/03 CGA/EGA NO 0.75 0.9 17.4 7.2 Acceptable for switchable EGA/CGA
35" RCA A89PNT30X 110 89L1ULZ CGA NO 0.95 1.2 17.6 7.2 Acceptable for CGA monitor
35" RCA A89PNT30X 110 89L1UBP/Z CGA NO 0.94 1.2 24.2 9.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
35" RCA A89PNT30X 110 89L2PRP VGA NO 0.29 0.3 7.9 4.4 Acceptable for VGA monitor
27" Amec M68JXR195X 110 KY9421M CGA NO 0.96 1 17.5 7.5 Acceptable for CGA monitor
27" Amec M68KTY167X TLY15909F 0.96 1.4 24.8 9.3 Distortion
32" Amec M80JUA061X A80PNT32X 110 KDY4VL690M CGA NO 0.89 1.1 22.3 9.6 Acceptable for CGA monitor
35" RCA A89PNT30X 110 89L1LLP/00 EGA/CGA NO 0.73 0.8 17.2 7.1 Acceptable for EGA/CGA monitor
27" Phillips A68PNT22X 100 AT6027 CGA YES 1.27 1.4 17.3 7.1 Acceptable for CGA monitor
25" RCA A63ADT15X09 A63PNT13X 110 63T1DVZ/00 YES 1.27 1.5 10 3.2 Sent to TECO for evaluation
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Does this help?? If I only knew how to attach a file/spreadsheet it would make more sense.
I can't say it does (not enough experience), but I'll tell you how to attach a file in exchange for what you put up. ;)
When post a message here, there's a link below where you enter your message labeled "Additional Options..." Click it and it expands into a menu. There you can browse and upload txt, jpg, gif, pdf, png or zip files smaller than 512K. You can pack your spreadsheet into a .zip and post it.
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Thanks hope the attachment helps.
Rick Nieman
www.niemandisplays.com
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Sorry to bump this up but this is a great post. Has anyone added to this list?