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Title: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: vader on November 27, 2004, 03:03:42 pm
Was considering using a cambolt system when building my new cab.  Do you guys recommend it and what would be the upside/downside to this..would it be sturdy or would it be like some of that cheap office funiture that wobbles if you breathe on it ?  Reason I was considering this is it would eliminate any screws showing from the outside and I would avoid having to putty in the screw holes and sand them down.  I know brackets would be another option, just felt like I would pass it by you guys.  Are there any other suggestions ?

Tim

Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: DrewKaree on November 27, 2004, 04:50:00 pm
Are you talking about something like these? (http://images.rockler.com/Rockler/images/57218-lg.jpg)

Upsides
Quicker assembly
Easy knockdown if you need to move it
Clean look from outside of cab
Stability will be just fine - won't be a worry, although you may need a few more along the long backside

Downsides
Price per connector (dunno your source, but those run between 5-10 bucks per, depending on size)
Time involved in making sure alignment is correct
Tools required for installation kinda pricey (forstner bit) but only a one-time buy
May still require screws along backside of cab due to size, or require 2-3 more connectors
PITA screwing in the bolt part of this connector - YOU MUST PREDRILL THE HOLE FOR THE BOLT

Other options would be to just use screws on the outside of your cab, but use a countersink bit to set the screw heads even with the top of the cab....it sucks to have to do it, but with a R/O sander, it truly isn't that much work to get a clean surface again. 

If you're using plywood, you could use 1x1's and screw from the inside .
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: vader on November 27, 2004, 05:15:47 pm
Wow, had no clue they were that much....would be cheaper to buy a desk and use those, lol....I guess it's off to counter sinking and putty for me....did that on my past one, was just considering different options

Tim
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: JustMichael on November 27, 2004, 06:12:28 pm
vader88,  have you tried pocket screws?  You can get a non-Kreg jig fairly cheap and you can get pocket screw plugs too.
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: vader on November 27, 2004, 07:33:13 pm
not familiar with that....do u possibly have a link to that ?

Tim
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: DrewKaree on November 27, 2004, 09:05:18 pm
You use a jig to drill the holes first, kinda like toe-nailing something, here's an advanced jig picture
(http://images.rockler.com/rockler/images/31995-md.jpg)

After you drill the holes, you drop in some pocket screws (they have a flat underneath the head to draw the two pieces together
(http://images.rockler.com/rockler/images/3656y.jpg)

Then you can either leave the holes open (such as in your case, where they won't be seen) or plug them with these
(http://images.rockler.com/rockler/images/23026.jpg)

Pocket hole attachment 101.  There will be a quiz tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: SteveJ34 on November 27, 2004, 10:29:44 pm
I *think* these can be had for less than $5-10 a piece.....at least I seem to recall seeing a bulk pack of replacement parts in special hardware section at Lowes.

I have never had much luck with overall stability using these types of connectors for anything that is going to withstand much weight. A basic cab might not be too bad but when you go to add a monitor or TV, depending on size you are talking as much as 100-150 pounds of dead weight.

I built my upright from 5/8" MDF and 1"x2" stringers with countersunk wood screws then putty/paint.

I think this is the best option unless you have a workshop full of tools and are a master with wood dowels and dados or something.

Best of luck in your project.
Title: Re: Cam Bolts and Locks
Post by: LordDamo on November 28, 2004, 02:42:32 am

If you're using plywood, you could use 1x1's and screw from the inside .


Im using MDF, but this is what im thinking of doing with mine, seams to be a much cheaper alternative. I was thinking of a cam type system, mainily cause I seam to move around a lot, but abandoned the idea cause of the wobble factor.

Those cams that DrewKaree posted look way strong, but as he stated, they cost the earth. I'd go with the 1" x 1" block idea