If those work on super, then they SHOULD work on the Ms. Pac Reunion stick, do they?
RandyT,
Can you please look into making a shaft that will fit the Happ's 49-way?
That's the one stick I have that doesn't currently have a balltop on it, and I really, really want one for it.
I'm a Wico nut, guess I'm outta luck. :P
Randy, could you post measurements for us? Shaft diameter, length from base of ball to end, and the length from base of ball to each of the e-clip grooves should cover it. That way, we should be able to figure out some of the other sticks it might fit.
Dude, the WILLIAMS 49-way sticks are ALL balltops
Can you please look into making a shaft that will fit the Happ's 49-way?
You need some Wico handles? I have them in red, red, or red.
Randy, I've often been irritated by your abrasive comments on this board, and you also have a tendency to take criticism of your products the wrong way.At least it's explained in a constructive fashion that's conducive to furthering his replies in a non-abrasive fashion ::) ;D
How does the Super / Competition handle differ to the 49-way?
RayB, weren't you selling ball-top top-fire sticks?
Out of curiosity, do you, or does anyone know, if I can get white and black balltops? I might be restoring my double dragon Ii in the future. Going to keep the leaf base.They show on ebay too, once in a while. I usually see 'em in large joystick lots for some reason, never by themselves.
The shaft is alot longer on the bottom, so that he longer actuator can be used.
For those who have been waiting, the Versa-Ball shafts are now available at the GGG Store under the "Modifications" category.Thanks Randy! I recommend also listing them under Joysticks or Cross-linking them under Joysticks, as that is where I think most people would look for them. You probably want to update the main page about them.
A direct link is here. (http://www.groovygamegear.com/cgi/surfshop/shop.cgi?storeid=1&c=search.htm&categories=0025)
Thanks Randy! I recommend also listing them under Joysticks or Cross-linking them under Joysticks, as that is where I think most people would look for them.
Looks really good Randy, nice job.
Say I was wondering is there any joystick shaft i can use to replace on my OMNI Prodigy non retro joystick. I was wanting a black balltop to go with my nintendo cab. I really like the black shiny 1 3/8" :)
Ok, new option.
I have a dumb question:
If the shafts are all one diameter, what stops the shaft slipping down (for say the competition)? Isn't this step in diameter what holds the shaft in? And how does it fit through the actuator (I mean without the step-down in diameter)?
http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/competition_joy_e.htm
I noticed this discussion starting in the thread from the competion. So I'll play nice and address it here. :)RandyT, thanks for clarifying. (I still don't see how it fits through the actuator.)
I have a dumb question:
If the shafts are all one diameter, what stops the shaft slipping down (for say the competition)?
Apologies for any misunderstanding, Tiger-Heli hit the nail on the head - I didn't mean to start anything, just trying to figure out how the shafts work purely because...
Ultimately I want a ball-top on my 49-way - I am just trying to weigh up if this is possible / the easiest way to do it.
Randy: So how does the shaft (the part which is usually thinner) fit through the joystick's actuator? It looks as though it isn't possible, but I don't have a Competition stick to examine to figure it out. On my 49-way it certainly looks (note I haven't took it apart fully) like it isn't possible, at least without drilling out the centre of the actuator or something.
Edit: (sorry Tiger I missed the part where yo usaid you don't get it either)
In my personal opinion the step does more than act as a stop, it also fits through the plastic shaft spacer that actually prevents the shaft from being sloppy inside the base.
As far as competition, I wouldn
Also, the shafts are the standard 10mm diameter used on a number of sticks. If your stick requires a 10mm shaft, and you can supply me with the distance between the top shoulder and the bottom e-ring, I will give you an indicator as to whether these have a chance of working with your base. Because of the way the T-Stick is attached to the base, I do not believe these shafts will work with them.
RandyT
Also, the shafts are the standard 10mm diameter used on a number of sticks. If your stick requires a 10mm shaft, and you can supply me with the distance between the top shoulder and the bottom e-ring, I will give you an indicator as to whether these have a chance of working with your base. Because of the way the T-Stick is attached to the base, I do not believe these shafts will work with them.
Funny you should say that. I once tried fitting the shaft from my Happ Super (actually bought directly from IL) to my T-Stik (also bought directly from IL) just to see whether it would work, and it was fine. But I had to use some metal washers as spacers becasue the Super's shaft is slightly longer.
so can anyone confirm the material the ball is made of on the ones from RandyT?
Are they the same size as the ones on X-Men/Simpsons etc
Randy: The E-Clips on the Pac Man Revolution joysticks are 5cm apart and the shaft is 10mm thick. From the end of the shaft to the bottom of the ball is about 8 cm total. And the Diameter of the Ball is about 1-1/4" thick.
Yeah, the Pac Man reunion was the one I was talking about.
Randy do you have any that will fit a nintendo joystick? I have a stick for my Donkey Kong that was originally in a metal panel (too short). The stick is only 6mm thick. Can you help???
RandyT,
I have the critical dimensions on the 49-way sticks.
The measurement from the top of the stick to the stepdown is exactly 4.25".
The larger diameter at the stepdown is .506".
The shaft diameter below the stepdown is .266".
The shaft length from the stepdown to the near edge of the E-clip is 2.53".
I only have the one stick to measure, so I am ASSUMING that Happs tolerances are fairly tight from stick to stick.
RandyT,
I have the critical dimensions on the 49-way sticks.
The measurement from the top of the stick to the stepdown is exactly 4.25".
The larger diameter at the stepdown is .506".
The shaft diameter below the stepdown is .266".
The shaft length from the stepdown to the near edge of the E-clip is 2.53".
I only have the one stick to measure, so I am ASSUMING that Happs tolerances are fairly tight from stick to stick.
[Do you know if Randy's style shaft without the stepdown will work with the 49-way? It looks as though the actuator is too small for the shaft to fit through. Having not (yet) taken mine apart I can't tell if the actuator comes apart or not...
Do you know if Randy's style shaft without the stepdown will work with the 49-way?
Randy any news on getting the P360 versions yet? Also how are the dust washers comming? Will you have a special version for the P360 version of your joystick shaft?
I'll be trying out my versa-balls (eww sounds almost nasty) on some supers and a pac reunion tomorrow.
I'm looking at ordering a pair of these to fit a set of Supers. Not sure what length I need. They're going in a metal control panel, so am I correct in thinking that I need the shortest stick (1 1/4)? Why is it that the shiny ball tops only come in 1 3/8?
I'm looking at ordering a pair of these to fit a set of Supers. Not sure what length I need. They're going in a metal control panel, so am I correct in thinking that I need the shortest stick (1 1/4)? Why is it that the shiny ball tops only come in 1 3/8?
Just so there are no misconceptions, these are designed for under the panel installation on 1/2" to
am I correct in thinking that I need the shortest stick (1 1/4)?
I dunno, that's why I asked.
Hey Randy,
I just received the versa-ball shafts that I ordered and although they look very cool I was a little bummed. I have a quarter inch plywood panel so the stick is too long for me. I would like my sticks to look completely retro. I am using a happ super base. Can send them back to be customized?
Kevin
Wow, 1/4" is thin!
Wow, 1/4" is thin! The sticks were't designed for that (take a look at the descriptions of the product for specifications on panel thickness.)
This wording from the description:
Or maybe you felt left out in the cold because you had a 3/4" or 1/2" thick panel and because you mount your sticks below, the handles are either too stubby or too long?
may lead some to believe there is an ability to have a shorter handle than is possible. A few details on the height above the joystick installed may help eliminate some confusion.
Or design the shaft so that the e-clip can go on in two locations. One to make it short, one for long.
Not to be argumentative, but the above quoted sentence is accurate, even though out of context with the rest of the description. Also, you may want to note that the emphasis in your quote was yours, not mine.
"The Versa-ball shafts are designed for use with "under the panel" joystick installations on panels of 1/2" to 7/8" in thickness."
Yeah, I was just trying to come from the perspective of someone reading the website only. Don't see this in the description on your site.
Also, I will be testing them on the ms pac reunion sticks as soon as I get my order of sticks in. I'll let you know how it goes.
Again, thank you very much for your help. Randy, I probably would like to return the sticks (although they would be awesome for most aplications) How would I go about doing that?
OK, heres the news on the versaball and Ms Pac base:
Randy, feel free to use the pic if you want or let me know if you need something different.
Randy: does the ball unscrew from the shaft if needed?
But I was curious as to the plastic spacer.
OK, heres the news on the versaball and Ms Pac base:
OK, heres the news on the versaball and Ms Pac base:
Is this the 1 3/8" dark red shiny Versa-Ball?
Also, it looks like there a ridge around the 'equator' of this ball top.
Are the actuall ball tops interchangable on the versa and reunion?Nope, tried. Thread size is different. Versa is 3/8" and Ms Pac is 5/16".
for anyone who has already purchased one of these:
how is the gameplay on the Ms. Pacman / Galaga reunion stick with the new handle?
Randy T
Curious if these will work with the p360's. I thought I'd seen where you were going to test fit them on a p360. Any word as of yet?