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Title: I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: TeamTEOR on October 31, 2004, 01:01:39 am
Whats is the major difference? Is there anything I should be weary about?
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: maraxle on October 31, 2004, 01:10:46 am
KeyWiz has 4 more inputs, Ipac2 can light up LEDs for CAPS, NUM, and Scroll lock.  Other than that, they're pretty much the same.  Take your pick.

Personally, I went with the KeyWiz for the extra inputs and the slightly lower price.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: TeamTEOR on October 31, 2004, 02:32:06 am
Thanks, I am glad to hear there are no major problems that they face. I don't need the LEDs, and 4 extra inputs is a nice feature.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: patrickl on October 31, 2004, 05:07:53 am
I-PAC supports USB. Might not be so much an issue now, but I found it a feature I needed already (no PS/2 on my PC).

Check Tiger-Heli's Keyboard encoder page (http://www.mameworld.net/tigerheli/encoder/index.htm) for a comparison of all the current encoders.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: Grasshopper on October 31, 2004, 09:34:33 am
Two other important issues (at least for me):

The Ipac supports keyboard passthrough.

The Ipac retains its settings on power down.

Also the price difference has narrowed since Andy introduced the Minipac and IpacVE.

If I was buying an encoder today, I'd buy a Minipac without question.

I've just checked out Tiger-Heli's page. There is some excellent stuff there. I think he's covered just about everything.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: Hoagie_one on October 31, 2004, 09:40:35 am
the shipping rate from ultimarc still baffles me
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: maraxle on October 31, 2004, 09:57:58 am
If I was buying an encoder today, I'd buy a Minipac without question.
I wouldn't.  I don't like the IDE-style header in place of the screw-down terminals.  That's personal preference, of course.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: Grasshopper on October 31, 2004, 01:10:08 pm
the shipping rate from ultimarc still baffles me

I agree with you there. Shipping is definitely Ultimarc's Achilles heel.

I only live about 40 miles from Ultimarc's headquarters but for some reason I have to pay about the same shipping rate as US customers. I've ordered fairly large packages from Lik-Sang in Hong Kong and it only cost me about 50% of what Ultimarc charges.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: TeamTEOR on October 31, 2004, 02:00:40 pm
Is it ok to wire up a 4 way and a 8 way joystick on the same port of them as well, or is it time for a second controller at this point? The goal is to have a 2 player machine with a 3rd joy in the center for the 4 way games.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: RandyT on October 31, 2004, 04:28:21 pm
Is it ok to wire up a 4 way and a 8 way joystick on the same port of them as well, or is it time for a second controller at this point? The goal is to have a 2 player machine with a 3rd joy in the center for the 4 way games.

This is ok to do.  The only drawback is that the 4-way and 8-way will both be live (ie. someone could grab the other stick while one is in use and screw up your game.)  If this is an issue, you can just hook a toggle-switch  in-line with the ground going to the sticks.  That way, you can selectively enable/disable them.

Email me if you need a more detailed description.

RandyT
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: TeamTEOR on October 31, 2004, 05:12:24 pm
Nope, totally understand. I wonder now if there is a DPST micro switch that I can use with one of the normal pushbuttons and that would be the iceing on the cake.

BTW, thanks for the help everyone.
Title: Re:I-pac2 vs KeyWiz Max 1.5
Post by: Tiger-Heli on November 01, 2004, 09:30:04 am
One feature not mentioned - The KeyWiz shift function is independent of the buttons, so all 32 inputs are available for action buttons.  The I-PAC essentially borrows an admin input for the shift funcition.

Two other important issues (at least for me):
The Ipac supports keyboard passthrough.
Automatic keyboard passthrough.  The KeyWiz has a keyboard passthrough with a switch to select/deselect the attached keyboard.
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The Ipac retains its settings on power down.
True.
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Also the price difference has narrowed since Andy introduced the Minipac and IpacVE.
but the VE also does not retain settings on power-down.  (The VE is similar to a KeyWiz in USB only instead of PS/2 only and with LED support, although there are a number of other differences.)
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If I was buying an encoder today, I'd buy a Minipac without question.
As someone else said the Minipac has an IDE header and can't use the latest software, but you do get half an opti-pac along with the encoder.
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I've just checked out Tiger-Heli's page. There is some excellent stuff there. I think he's covered just about everything.
Thanks!