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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: deanimate on October 14, 2004, 07:09:38 am
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Ok i bought this MASS super pro stick with a 360 joystick in it. Now forget the the MASS fact as i cant see how it could be anything other than the stick itself which is why im really really hoping someone here might be able to shed somelight on it.
Basically i got it and diagonals did not happen at ALL. I know barely anything about sticks but quickly read round and did check the actuator. thin bit is pointing towards the e-clip for 8 way mode so no problems there.
(i did swap it round just to try however)
Now the other night it did do a FEW diagonals. mainly up-right it. up-left was extremely intermittent if at all.
Now i thought maybe that it just needs to wear itself in but then i mean to barely hit any diags at all??? surely thats not right? Quickly tried it this morning and it hit absolutely none.
I know there was that issue with the resistor (or something like that) that was underpowered i think and the manufacturer acknowledged this and has changed them now but did i maybe get an old stick that had been lying around and has that issue?
I really would prefer to resolve this issue myself if possible as it took long enough to get here and i dont really want to have to wait another month for MASS to sort it and then get stung by yet more shipping (live in uk)
Any ideas are appreciated!
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did you remove the c-clip and flip the 8-4 way sleeve just for shits and giggles.
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You never said what kinda encoder you were using. Maybe a IPAC?? I had the same problem with P360's and my IPAC.
Search is your friend.
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=17867
Summary: I found that my P360 IS actually doing diagonals, just the IPAC software wasnt showing them in it's little diagnostic mode. Diagonals work great in games, and great in other "keyhook" type programs.
Read the full thread that I linked you to, and see if it helps.
FJ
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Thanks for replies guys :)
Yeah i did take the e-clip off and switch the actuator around just to check but no difference and its definetly the right way round.
Errrr im not too sure about this IPAC thing? Let me expand a bit. Basically i got this joystick to use on both the pc and also to use on the PS2 console. Ive got a Hori Real Arcade Pro and that works a treat on both PC and PS2.
I got the stick to play street fighter type games. Pretty much just them really. Might try others but right now its street fighter games all the way :)
Ill check the thread out and also find out about what IPAC is :]
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I doubt a mas joystick uses an ipac. Do the diagnols work on the PS2? I think you may have got a messed up joystick and should deal with mas.
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Yeah this is it, the diagonals dont work on PC or PS2.
I posted here to see if anyone had maybe had this issue and knew of a workaround to get it to work. As i really dont want to send the damn thing back to incur loads more shipping fees and no doubt bloody customs getting their bit :-\
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could be a power issue on the ps2, since it is widely known that the power line doesnt output the 5v required for the p360. maybe dropping in a resistor/voltage regulator on the 9v line and using that could help
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Yeah ive heard abot that 5V thing and dont completely understand it but certainly know its some kind of an issue. Yet this place has been selling these joysticks for quite a time now and they are specifically made for the PS2 so you would think that they would know of this issue and have taken necessary steps to rectify it.
I really cant see it being the problem tbh or everyone would be up in arms about it.
People do however make mistakes and perhaps something was wrongly configured/put together when the stick was made.
I do have a VGA converter plugged into the 2nd memory slot though. Would that be drawing extra power meaning the joystick cant fully funtion? (VGA converter box means i can run the PS2 on a PC monitor. it plugs into a mem card slot for some power)
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I don't understand how you can't do diagonals. If the UP works and the RIGHT works, going in between to get the two of them should work.
And the actuator thin side is towards the E-clip (bottom).
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Fully agree with you!
Just does not make sense.
But the first time i tried it out i got no diagonals whatsoever.
Up,Down,Left,Right as far as ive used the stick are working fine.
The actuator most definetly thin side pointing towards the e-clip which is towards my feet. No problems there. Unless they maybe used the wrong actuator.
I have also tried the stick on my friends PS2 which is an older model and still the same issue.
Like i say im going to use the PS2 without that VGA converter box in case it is causing any problems and will see how that goes.
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VGA converter box doesnt seem to make any difference
Just thinking here. if it IS an older P360 joystick thats one of the bad batch that was going round. Is there any way i can check? I think it was a resistor that was under powered. something like that. Thing is the joysticks inner workings seem to be incased in plastic that cannot be pulled apart or unscrewed.
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see this thread.
goto right at the end
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1872759#post1872759
fixed? i need to test. think it is though.
not very impressed with MASS tbh.