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Title: BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Trimoor on September 29, 2004, 04:18:02 am
This should be posted on the news page as well, but for anyone who didn't see it, (or wants to respond to me but not through email) I will post it here.

I created a nice guide on how to build a rotary add-on for joysticks. See it here:
http://www.trimoor.com/rotary_joystick/index.htm (http://www.trimoor.com/rotary_joystick/index.htm)

Feel free to post comments, complaints, suggestions, or death threats.

_Trimoor
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: danny_galaga on September 29, 2004, 05:36:17 am
that is great!! ive toyed with the idea but couldnt quite imagine how i was going to go about it. i didnt realise there was that type of mouse around. was going to use an optical...one question though- why is there a block of wood in there? i'm guessing that's not an original joystick part  ;)

good one!!

(tiny critisism- i think the o-ring you refer to is usually called a grommet)
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Minwah on September 29, 2004, 07:14:51 am
Excellent :)

I wonder if I could do it on my J-Stik...

I also wonder where to get such a mouse, although the rotary sensor may be similar to the non-optic type of device used in some scroll wheels (some revisions of Intellimouse).
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 29, 2004, 07:30:41 am
im confused on how the twisting does anything.  Can you explain the mechanics of how it works?
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: NoOne=NBA= on September 29, 2004, 07:39:48 am
It works by MAGIC, can't you see that?

Basically the nail piece prevents the rotary sensor from spinning with the handle.
When you turn the handle on the joystick, it turns the rotary sensor.
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Lilwolf on September 29, 2004, 07:53:33 am
The microsoft mouse piece on the end of the tube is both the optic wheel and the encoder all in one little container.

Cool mouse for hacking!

But since the nail doesn't move when you move the joystick.  Doesnt' it rotate some when you move a direction?

I dont' think you would notice it in a 12way game.  But like in tron.  If you are in the spider scene... If you are pointing in a direction, and you move the joystick around, does it still point in the same direction?  It seems like it would move a little.

GREAT HACK!  Best rotary / joystick Ive seen!

Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 29, 2004, 08:22:35 am
Basically the nail piece prevents the rotary sensor from spinning with the handle.
When you turn the handle on the joystick, it turns the rotary sensor.

Thats the part i misunderstood.  I was thinking the nail was some sort of grounding device or some such.  I get it.
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: 2600 on September 29, 2004, 08:41:23 am
Don't forget this BYO rotary joystick.

http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=20018;start=0

mr.Curmudgeon modifies a T-stick plus.   At the end of the thread, I use his method (with slight modification) to modify my P360.

Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 29, 2004, 09:11:22 am
i wish ultimarc would just make a t-stick plus plus with the 3 in one...while were at it, make it a top fire too.

j\k
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Trimoor on September 29, 2004, 12:49:36 pm
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why is there a block of wood in there? i'm guessing that's not an original joystick part  ;)
I bought a bunch of used sticks off ebay, so I had to mix and match parts. I didn't have enough actuators, so I had to make one out of wood.

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(tiny critisism- i think the o-ring you refer to is usually called a grommet)
You're right. I couldn't think of the right name.

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But since the nail doesn't move when you move the joystick.  Doesnt' it rotate some when you move a direction?
It does, but I'm pretty sure the Happ version does as well. I don't se how it could be made otherwise.

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I also wonder where to get such a mouse
I got mine from a good will store, but you never know when one will turn up again.

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Don't forget this BYO rotary joystick.
What, are you trying to upstage me? Can't let me have my own glory? For shame!
</sarcasm> ;D
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Hoagie_one on September 29, 2004, 01:11:50 pm
plan on building and selling anymore of those?
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: mr.Curmudgeon on September 29, 2004, 04:27:06 pm
This is a great hack!!! Congrats....why couldn't you have developed this sooner??   ;D  I can't tell you how many countless hours I spent racking my brain on this myself.

This is definitely very crafty. I wanted to go the store bought, low-modification route myself, since me and power tools don't work well together. But I wonder if this mod would work on the T-stik? It has some very unique issues that arise with the 4-to-8-way switching, but hmmmm.....maybe.

mrC
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: mr.Curmudgeon on September 29, 2004, 04:28:03 pm
i wish ultimarc would just make a t-stick plus plus with the 3 in one...while were at it, make it a top fire too.

j\k

True dat!
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Thenasty on September 29, 2004, 06:31:32 pm
now where would you get one of those mouse :)


http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=17149
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Trimoor on September 29, 2004, 09:48:21 pm
I do have one mechanical mouse left. It's ps/2 and can be adapted to serial.
Not sure if I'd sell it, but then again, if the right offer came along......

<*cough*>
trackball
</*cough*>
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Thenasty on September 29, 2004, 10:13:23 pm
<*cough*>
trackball
</*cough*>


I guess I can say the same....You see what I have ?
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Trimoor on September 29, 2004, 10:25:50 pm
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I guess I can say the same....You see what I have ?
Huh? I have no idea what you meant by that post.
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: Thenasty on September 30, 2004, 08:30:03 am
the link above (Thats what I have)..
Title: Re:BYO Rotary Joystick
Post by: brandon on October 08, 2004, 05:36:20 pm
wow.. this is just too cool :)  does anybody think that maybe an electronics supplier like mouser might have a substitute for that rotary encoder?  I doubt they were only made by Microsoft.. but who knows...   I'm gonna search around for something. I'll let you guys know...