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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: SirPoonga on September 28, 2004, 01:51:55 pm
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Ok, now that you've had gmail for awhile what do you like/dislike about it?
Frankly I have not had a single spam and I have been signing up for everything with it.
I like the conversations idea.
I am not fond of the labels instead of folders.
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I have one and have never used it.
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I have one and have never used it.
ditto
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How do I get a gmail invite?
-PMF
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I don't use it much.
It seems to be slow or down quite often.
My ISP webmail is way faster, even on a public computer or at work.
Advertising sucks.
1 gig of storage is useless if each mail cant be more than 10mb. I would use it more for file transfers etc. if I could upload and download 1 gig to/from it easy.
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I like the conversations idea.
I am not fond of the labels instead of folders.
I can't get used to conversations yet. I use Gmail for my mailing list subscriptions. I also don't like lack of folders.
I've never had a problem with it down or slow though.
Art
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i use it for recieving large attachments
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How do I get a gmail invite?
-PMF
send an email to me at drewkaree AT gmail DOT comNOSPAM and if you can't figure out what to remove....nevermind ;)
I don't hate the labels, what I HATE is the fact that after you label something, it doesn't leave your inbox list. THAT'S annoying.
I like the ability to quickly and easily delete the spam it sporadically filters out (of which I have TONS of spam, on average ~30-35/day).
The "add several contacts to an e-mail" could be tons better
The storage would be awesome if labels stored separately from the inbox.
The file size transfer limit can be gotten around by splitting the file into 10Mb pieces, which is what I do to send files from work to home, although I don't find myself splitting too many files up....the file transfer size is awesome compared to all the other e-mail services I've used.
I've gotten used to the conversation thing, but as Jack said, it IS hard getting used to at first.
The ads have never bothered me other than my freeflatscreen stuff gets cut off by some of them.
FAR AND AWAY better than my Hotmail address, which takes, on average, 3 times as long to load as my gmail account.
all in all, I'd rate gmail a 6.5 on a 10 scale.
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It is WAY faster than mail.com is. I like that. I like that I don't have to worry about deleting mail. I've been pretty much spam free.
I don't like the "conversation" thing, I'm having trouble getting used to it.
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I still get spam, but they usually seperate it. good e-mail provider!!
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no complaints here about it...I have had no spam ;D
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How do I get a gmail invite?
-PMF
Check this page from time to time, they give out thousands of invites every day:
http://isnoop.net/gmailomatic.php
If it says they have '0 invites available' try hitting refresh a few times, usually a few will appear.
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I need an invite! Anyone care to help?
Thank you..
Scott
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I need an invite! Anyone care to help?
Thank you..
Scott
remove_criteriondvd@hotmail.com_remove
check my post out a few replies above....same instructions apply
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I don't use it much.
It seems to be slow or down quite often.
My ISP webmail is way faster, even on a public computer or at work.
Advertising sucks.
Advertising sucks? It's out of the way, that's nice at least. It's fast for me and I am on modem.
1 gig of storage is useless if each mail cant be more than 10mb. I would use it more for file transfers etc. if I could upload and download 1 gig to/from it easy.
That's not the point of having that much storage. It's google experiment that you should never have to throw away email.
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New features :)
They moved and redid the contacts list, much better.
There's an RSS type feed so you can easily make a third party app to check what email you have. This is nice though there's enough third party apps out there to check gmail anyway.
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New features :)
They moved and redid the contacts list, much better.
Ya, I just checked it a little while ago, and noticed that. NOW I like it, for the most part, with everything else being something I'm learning to live with.
It was getting frustrating for my fantasy football league and sending a group mailing....WAY too much of a hassle to send 12 guys e-mails with the old way gmail forced me to use.
Now if they set up "groups" so I can just click "FFL" and have all the e's entered it at once....sigh.
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when and if they go public, the best line would be:
"It's not e-mail. It's g-mail."
*CREAMS PANTS*
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"It's not e-mail. It's g-mail."
Thats the point...
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I am not fond of the labels instead of folders.
I am curious as to why not? At first I didn't see the advantage but I finally figured it out. I had to show my friend why they are so good.
When you move something into a folder, you move it. It physically (well not really in this case...) moves there. You can't move it so it exists in more than folder obviously.
But Sirp, lets say you got an email from me regarding some random BYOAC stuff. Where would this email go? In the "Jakobud" folder or the "BYOAC" folder? They are both equally valid places for it to go, but how do you choose?
See with labels, you don't have to choose... my email can have the "Jakobud" label AND the "BYOAC" label attached to it. So when you view all your Jakobud emails, it's there. And when you view your BYOAC emails, its there.
Get it? Labels are much much better than folders in my opinion. Folders are just limiting. Anyways, in other email apps, when you 'move' an email to a folder, the software essentially is just 'labeling' it in it's own way, right? It's just doing it in the non-gmail way (which is limiting as you can see).
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Right on... I love Gmail... I have no complaints so far.
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I really like the conversation style thing...
I was unaware of the 10mb limit for attachments, but I don't think I have ever thought about emailing a 10mb file anyway (I'm on dial up). Labels seem ok, but it will take getting used to. I'm a folder fan at heart :P
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Now I can use a single software to check gmail, yahoo, and hotmail from the tray bar. It is very cute. http://www.irobotsoft.com/
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I was looking at Gmail but I guess at this point you can't sign up yet. But I stumbled uopn this
http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
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I've got 3 invites to give away. email DaemonCollector@(NOSPAM)gmail.com if you want one :)
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I was looking at Gmail but I guess at this point you can't sign up yet. But I stumbled uopn this
http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
You can't sign up, but if you look for the other Gmail thread here, you can follow the instructions in there for people (such as myself) to send you an invitation. Right now, you can only get an account if you are invited, but Gmail invitations are getting to be like bags of dog crap if you have a dog.....you get so many built up you can't give enough of 'em away any more.
I already lose more rights I'm actually worried about every time I have to purchase a Microsoft product. Direct market me all you want. I have a delete button for my PC, a hang-up button for my phone, an off button for my radio and TV, and a trash can for my snail mailbox. ;D
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yay dk, yay.
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I was looking at Gmail but I guess at this point you can't sign up yet. But I stumbled uopn this
http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
i was a little suspicious about the gmail idea when i first heard of it. but i couldn't really articulate it. this site tells you why it's not such a crash hot idea. any email i get from a gmail account i will use their convenient cut n paste:
Dear Gmail user: Due to privacy considerations, we cannot respond unless you resend your email from a different account. For more information, please visit www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com
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Best use of Gmail:
GmailFS (http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm)
That's not an e-mail account, that's a 1 Gig remotely accessible drive!
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that i'll never use up 1GB heh, this is like 100x over-kill ;D
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You are currently using 1 MB (0%) of your 1000 MB.
That's what I like best... ;D
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The one thing I don't like is that you have to view each attachment seperately (sp). if someone sends me a email with a few pics I have to forward it to my yahoo to see the message with the pics.........
anyone know of a setting I'm not finding to change that?
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Best use of Gmail:
GmailFS (http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm)
That's not an e-mail account, that's a 1 Gig remotely accessible drive!
I tried downloading this from another site....no dice. Were/have you been able to use this? I'm looking to shuttle files from work to home in case I forget my USB key, and when I saw this, I thought....PERFECT!
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I think the conversations and labels are the best part about gmail (well aside from the 1Gig of course). What's to get used to about labels? You can use them just like folders if you wish, but if you do you're not getting what they are all about. The conversation feature is a little different, but I like how it keeps threads together.
What I don't like is...
The site is down more than it should be. I used to have that problem with Yahoo, but it has been totally stable for me for years.
Since I installed Gmail Notifier at home I have to enter my username and password every day even if I check don't ask me for 2 weeks box.
The restriction on characters for my email address.
There were other things that I can't remember right now.
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I was looking at Gmail but I guess at this point you can't sign up yet. But I stumbled uopn this
http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
i was a little suspicious about the gmail idea when i first heard of it. but i couldn't really articulate it. this site tells you why it's not such a crash hot idea. any email i get from a gmail account i will use their convenient cut n paste:
Dear Gmail user: Due to privacy considerations, we cannot respond unless you resend your email from a different account. For more information, please visit www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com
Uhhhg.
"Google's policies are essentially no different than the policies of Microsoft, Yahoo, Alexa and Amazon"
Exactly, so it doesn't matter what email you use, even your ISP's!
"After 180 days in the U.S., email messages lose their status as a protected communication under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and become just another database record. This means that a subpoena instead of a warrant is all that's needed to force Google to produce a copy. "
This applies to all email, not just gmail. Anyway, just don;t do illegal emails then :)
"They've said that their advertisers won't get personally identifiable information from email, but that doesn't mean that Google won't keep this information for possible future use. Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected, since day one. For example, their cookie with the unique ID in it, which expires in 2038, has been tracking all of the search terms you've ever used while searching their main index. "
This is a scare tactic. They need someone to prove what information google is storing and where it is coming from. Plus due to pass laws there's only so much information they can store on someone. And any information they store you gave them. Plus the cookie thing is how google ads work and what makes them ingenius. No useless ads.
" Or how about "mp3" with "download"? Since the RIAA has sent subpoenas to Internet service providers and universities in an effort to identify copyright abusers, why should we expect Gmail to be off-limits?"
Again, not subject to JUSt gmail.
"We don't use Gmail, but it is safe to assume that the ad matching is no better in Gmail, than it is in news articles that use contextual ad feeds from Google. Here's a screen shot that shows an inappropriate placement of Google ads in a news article. We also read about a lawyer who is experimenting with Gmail. He sent himself a message, and discovered that the law practice footer he uses at the bottom of all of his email triggered an ad for a competing law firm."
The screenshot shows the ads are working. Are those links illegal drug companies? If not I don't see how it is inappropriate.
The lawyer thing, then his firm better pay google for mare advertising than their competitors. I don't see that as wrong. The google ads worked. If his firm isn't advertising as good they aren;t going to get the customers.
"Our last example shows three ads fed by Google at the bottom of a Washington Post column titled "Gmail leads way in making ads relevant." The columnist argues that Google's relevant ads improve the web, and therefore she finds nothing objectionable about Gmail. These Google-approved ads offer PageRank for sale, something which only a year ago, Google would have considered high treason. Yes, these ads are "relevant" -- the column is about Google, and the ads are about PageRank. But here's the point: A relevant ad that shows poor judgment is much worse than an irrelevant ad that shows poor judgment. The ads at the bottom of her column disprove her pro-Google arguments. She has no control over this, and is probably not even aware that it happened."
Ummm, does this person know that pagerank is OWNED BY GOOGLE! It's how google's search works. You could buy a higher pagerank to get yourself on the first page of search for a certain phrase. It's a google service being advertised by google when the article is about how good the google ad service is. All these services are tied together. How is this poor judgement?
I'm sorry, but this whole article is just a scare tactic. Kinda like the tactics "natural" products use to slam doctors and products. They don't back up their information iwith hard fact, just scare tactic opinions. Note they omit ALOT of information. Like the washington post artcicle, does it mention pagerank? It might explain why you get that type of add then. But, probably due to legal reasons, they couldn;t show the whole article.
You can take any set of statistics and make them look good for your cause buy spinning the points that support your ideas and omitting the ones that don't. I mean, why should you believe that website?
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/GmailLetter.htm
I love some of the statements there.
"First, Google has proposed scanning the text of all incoming emails for ad placement. The scanning of confidential email violates the implicit trust of an email service provider. Further, the unlimited period for data retention poses unnecessary risks of misuse."
Well duh, if you want security in email use a pop account with pgp. plus the scanning is for displaying ads on the same page as the email, the ads aren;t being sent anywhere.
"Second, Google's overall data retention and correlation policies are problematic in their lack of clarity and broad scope. Google has not set specific, finite limits on how long it will retain user account, email, and transactional data"
Asl Google then. This is one of the first things my mom noticed about gmail. She emailed them. They said the would have a transition period and you can retain your information if service changes (IE you have to pay for it).
The whole letter is aimed at the fact that gmail scans your email to produce the ads. They say that means they need to store information in the email to create the ad stream. no they don't, the email is being stored on an email server like any other email. And to make relavent ads popup you just need to corrolate the email text keywords witht he ad keywords which can easily be done as the html for the webpage is being generated.
"Currently, individuals may have the understanding that Google
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I think the conversations and labels are the best part about gmail (well aside from the 1Gig of course). What's to get used to about labels? You can use them just like folders if you wish, but if you do you're not getting what they are all about. The conversation feature is a little different, but I like how it keeps threads together.
What I don't like is...
The site is down more than it should be. I used to have that problem with Yahoo, but it has been totally stable for me for years.
Since I installed Gmail Notifier at home I have to enter my username and password every day even if I check don't ask me for 2 weeks box.
The restriction on characters for my email address.
There were other things that I can't remember right now.
i've heard of these problems too but I have not experienced any of it.
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Yep, gmail + gmailfs to me means a free gb of offsite storage.
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Best use of Gmail:
GmailFS (http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm)
That's not an e-mail account, that's a 1 Gig remotely accessible drive!
I tried downloading this from another site....no dice. Were/have you been able to use this? I'm looking to shuttle files from work to home in case I forget my USB key, and when I saw this, I thought....PERFECT!
Yeah, it works fine for me.
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Best use of Gmail:
GmailFS (http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm)
That's not an e-mail account, that's a 1 Gig remotely accessible drive!
that is sooo great. now for nix machines