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Main => Software Forum => Topic started by: the3eyedblindman on September 09, 2004, 04:50:02 pm
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Ok on Windows XP I dont think you can play older pc games, but on windows 98 se the act labs gun wont work with terminator 2 or revolution X, Everyone tells me Windows ME is crap, and I dont want Windows 95. does anyone know a good windows OS to use where everything will work ok? Do you think if something says it wont support windows 98 se that i would support normal windows 98?
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what older pc games are you trying to run? XP has a compatibility mode that may or may not work..
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NFL Blitz, Golden Tee Golf, Mortal Kombat 4, House of the Dead, House of the Dead 2. I may have to use ME after all..... :'(
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I would avoid ME at all costs. I would try XP's compatibility mode to see how the games run (if they run). I've had some luck with the compatibility modes, but it's not perfect.
Right click the game's icon > Properties > Compatibility tab > choose OS
If that doesn't turn out so great, I'd go with 98 so you can play those games that you seem so interested in, unless those few light gun games REALLY matter to you as well.
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House of the Dead 2 runs fine on my XP rig.
I don't think I even enabled the compatibility mode to get it running.
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NFL Blitz, Golden Tee Golf, Mortal Kombat 4, House of the Dead, House of the Dead 2. I may have to use ME after all..... :'(
NFL Blitz and Golden Tee Golf both run fine on Windows XP as well.
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ME, through my research, is the only OS that can do everything i want it to do. is it really that bad if it will only be used for mame and pc games in a cab?
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ME, through my research, is the only OS that can do everything i want it to do. is it really that bad if it will only be used for mame and pc games in a cab?
Yes . . .
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how so?
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Ok, heres what i have concluded from my research...
The older games may not work on XP because it is not dos based, i believe.
Revolution X will not work with my lightgun in 98 SE or 2000.
Terminator 2 will not work with my lightgun in 98 se.
This pretty much leaves ME.... which apparently will work for everything.
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ME is not dos based either. i am fairly sure anything dos based (or not, for that matter) runs poorly in ME.
XP is the obvious answer. what dos games are you using? people have indicated that most of the games in your list work well in XP. if it doesnt run in XP, why not have a dual boot for 98se? if not, there are ways to get DOS games to work on XP..
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you might in theory be able to do everything you want with ME, but you won't be all too happy when it BSOD's every 10 minutes. It doesn't matter how many games you might be able to play through ME, you won't be playing any when it crashes all the time.
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ill have copies of 98 SE and XP, First Ill run Xp, and if the pc games are fine on that, then ill be ok. I was just told by someone that windows XP is different then all other versions so all the older games made for the older windows dont work on XP.
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I was just told by someone that windows XP is different then all other versions so all the older games made for the older windows dont work on XP.
you have been told the contrary by several people here.. makes you wonder how trustworthy someone is.. :P
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I guess we'll see... :) another issue with the lightgun is you have to run mame32, you cant have dos based mame and a frontend :'(
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I don't see why you can't use the light gun with dos mame... its the same program...
In fact, I'm pretty sure there is a MameWah skin for light gun games and it has a pic of the act labs gun.... I have to believe it works.
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Well heres 2 things my instructions say, i got the gun in the mail today...
Quotes in the FAQ..
Will the gun work in shooting games in the mame emulator?
Yes, Provided that you are running the Windows version of MAME (MAME32).
Will the gun work in Dos?
No, the gun requires directX, which is a windows component, Dos is not supported.
Hope those help :)
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There's a big difference between dos mame, and command line mame. There is a windows command line mame, that works with frontends. Then there is mame32 which is windows mame with a frontend and stuff. Then there is dos mame. Windows mame is not Mame32, and command line doesn't always mean dos.
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Correction though, the directions specificaly say MAME32 though, like thats the only one, if they meant commandline you would think theyd put it, i dont know though , you probably know more than me, i dont know whyd theyd specifiaclly say mame32 though. ;D
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Correction though, the directions specificaly say MAME32 though, like thats the only one, if they meant commandline you would think theyd put it, i dont know though , you probably know more than me, i dont know whyd theyd specifiaclly say mame32 though. ;D
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you specifically. It was almost just a general, hey guys, be careful. Because it appeared windows mame and mame32 were being confused.
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I have never heard of ANYTHING software, hardware, ANYTHING that works on ME and doesn't work on 98.
Whatever you have that isn't working on 98 but works on ME is the result of a configuration issue, or a driver issue.
ME has the smallest install base of any version of windows, there are more Windows 95 installs out there then ME.
No one targeted ME with their hardware or software, they all knew it was a bad joke. Whenever someone brings me a Windows ME computer to work on I always "upgrade" them to Windows 98SE, and they always thank me for it.
Me is still dos based, they just hid it better.
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Correction though, the directions specificaly say MAME32 though, like thats the only one, if they meant commandline you would think theyd put it, i dont know though , you probably know more than me, i dont know whyd theyd specifiaclly say mame32 though. ;D
I'm using XP, MAMEWAH, and switch between commandline MAME and Analog+ MAME (which I set up as separate emulators on MAMEWAH.
I think they made the mame32 reccomendation so that they wouldn't get flooded with "how do I get this thing to work with that thing?" support requests.
Mame32 is basically commandline mame with a built-in front end on it.
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Why even ask the question if you arent taking anyones advice?
ME = CRAP CRAP CRAP GARBAGE CRAP GARBAGE (do you need me to put it on a giant PSD banner?)
And of course Lightguns work with Windows MAME. Not only Mame32. They just dont work with DOS mame. Ive emailed ActLabs about it and they said for sure it works with Windows CLI MAME
Theres nothing that wont run in XP except probably some VERY old DOS games. And all those games suck ass anyways so who cares
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Theres nothing that wont run in XP except probably some VERY old DOS games. And all those games suck ass anyways so who cares
not very big on the retro gaming aspect i take it? :P
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Yea a text-based DOS game is something I dont think Ill ever miss
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Craig's 2 cents =
Windows 98SE lite "Sleek version"
Using the Windows 98se and Windows 95A CDs and "98lite" demo from www.litepc.com you can create a lite version of Windows 98 that uses the super fast Windows 95 explorer.
98lite also allows you to remove many rescource stealing Windows features that you do not need on a cab.
It's very simple to do.
It's so fast it rocks
and it's free if you have 98SE and a 95A CDs laying around, and if you don't you can get them from your local computer shop for $5 or less.
and, as you know, Windows 9X can run MAME32, Windows command line MAME and just about every frontend on Earth.
(and DirectX for your PC games)
Groovy?
Craig
p.s. If any of you want to try this and have the 98SE CD but not the 95A files, e-mail me and I'll sort you out :)
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Yea a text-based DOS game is something I dont think Ill ever miss
http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/games/hitchhik.html
I didn't know I missed it, until I played it again.
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I have had windows ME on 4 pcs.
I only bought 1 of them
the other 3 were given to me by friends who hated them
I have upgraded all to XP except 1
I upgraded it to 98se
on windows ME My cab needed restarted with in 4 or 5 hrs of just sitting there. resorces would run out very fast
98se lasted a month and I just torned it off becouse It finally got on my nerves (burning up elect.)
also I had many cds that would not play on windows ME
but strange enough thay work on xp ??? I never under stood why but I am glad of it.
I went 98se for my 8yr old daughters games
bob the builder, sponge bob , ect...
I only know 2 people who likes windows ME
My mother , and My younger brother
and I am the black sheep? :-\
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Correction though, the directions specificaly say MAME32 though, like thats the only one, if they meant commandline you would think theyd put it, i dont know though , you probably know more than me, i dont know whyd theyd specifiaclly say mame32 though. ;D
Because at the time they wrote the instructions, there were only MAME32 and command-line (DOS) mame, and they never updated the instructions when the command-line version became windows based.
BTW, I didn't reply earlier about ME b/c I was just going by everyone else saying it sucked, but as I expected, that has been well documented now.
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Well I have Windows 98 SE and Windows Xp, so IK may go with 98 SE just to make sure the older games work ok.
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Linux.
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Well I have Windows 98 SE and Windows Xp, so IK may go with 98 SE just to make sure the older games work ok.
Hmmmn, it's well-known that XP is more stable, you started the thread saying that the guns won't work in some games in 98 SE. Of the four games you questioned, on three of them, people replied that XP was fine for them, but you are going to go with 98 SE.
Okay.
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See i dont know.... thats why i started the thread
"What OS Should I Use". ;D So XP i should try first? Thanks though.
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Well I have Windows 98 SE and Windows Xp, so IK may go with 98 SE just to make sure the older games work ok.
Hmmmn, it's well-known that XP is more stable, you started the thread saying that the guns won't work in some games in 98 SE. Of the four games you questioned, on three of them, people replied that XP was fine for them, but you are going to go with 98 SE.
Okay.
thats why everybody loves 3eyed.. ;)
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Well I have Windows 98 SE and Windows Xp, so IK may go with 98 SE just to make sure the older games work ok.
Hmmmn, it's well-known that XP is more stable, you started the thread saying that the guns won't work in some games in 98 SE. Of the four games you questioned, on three of them, people replied that XP was fine for them, but you are going to go with 98 SE.
Okay.
thats why everybody loves 3eyed.. ;)
/me nods in agreement. :)
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I dont get it, you guys sayin im stupid?
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Sorry Im not a huge Arcade-Computer obsessed guy, I just want an arcade, and almost done, and have a few questions, then no one will have to worry bout me anymore. I just dont know why anyone cant just answer a question here, they always gotta be rude.
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Oook..give the kid a ducking break or something already he is only 15 and building his own cabinet ! 8)
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Well I for one wasn't calling ya stupid. I thnk its cool you're building your cab at 15. I just wonder if you actually read the answers people give you sometimes.... but it's all in good fun.