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Title: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: spriggy on August 30, 2004, 07:35:03 pm
Hopefully very soon, I'll be able to commence a replica of the beautifully simplistic 'Track & Field' Cocktail.

Jakobud is again! so graciously compiling cabinet plans for this cocktail.

I'll start ordering the parts in the next few weeks.

I am however not going to jamma this one. ?It will asthetically look like a T&F, with the lovely 80's woodgrain and silkcreened CPO's. ?However, internals will be set up for Mame & MameWah, but only running the Track & Field related, 3 button layout working roms (as used by T&F).

They are:
Track & Field
Hyper Sports
'88 Games
Gold Medalist
RecordBreaker &
Field Day.


Stay Tuned!
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: goofy on August 31, 2004, 06:47:11 pm
That's excellent. Those are way up there on my favorite games list, although I've never seen nor played the cocktail version of the game. It looks cool though. Keep us posted on this project!!!
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: goofy on August 31, 2004, 07:51:55 pm
By the way, where do you get the cocktail versions of those games,or how do you play the regular versions in cocktail mode?
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on August 31, 2004, 08:48:56 pm
By the way, where do you get the cocktail versions of those games,or how do you play the regular versions in cocktail mode?

The PCB(or ROM for Mame) has a dip switch which specifically relates to 'Table' or 'Upright'.

With this dip switch set to 'Table', the screen flips for players 3 & 4, hence the opposite control panel.
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: marcus. on August 31, 2004, 09:13:32 pm
great looking cab!
Make that CP nice and strong!
Ive never noticed the detachable elevation base before .. very cool idea as Track &field IMO would be easier to play standing (with arms furiously banging buttons)
We used to put  the plastic tube containers ( the ones that held $5 of 20c or quaters ) over 2 fingers and "stroke?" the run buttons side to side one handed if you know what i mean... maybe not ... I'll stop talking now.
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: goofy on September 01, 2004, 01:01:56 am
Yeah, anyone who's a fan of that game from back in the day knows exactly what you're talking about. Many people just used a pencil. I ran the old fashioned way (with my fingers) hitting two fingers on each key (pointer and middle, so 4 fingers going) and I could usually beat or atleast match the pencil runners.

What a great game!!
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: Troz on September 01, 2004, 01:42:11 am
How is the glass placed on these types of cocktails?  I ask because I too am in the process of designing one similar to this, although with 3 control panels.  I'm planning on having the monitor on a hinge, much like the Midway style cocktail cabinets and I think that's where I'm running into my problem.  Here's a cardboard mockup to give an idea of how it will look:  http://www.twistedrails.com/cardboard_mockup.jpg (http://www.twistedrails.com/cardboard_mockup.jpg)
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: marcus. on September 01, 2004, 10:20:45 am
behold the son of  TRASHCADE!!

All Hail!
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: zaphod on September 01, 2004, 11:08:58 am
That is a very nicely done mockup.  Can't wait to see the completed project.
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: goofy on September 11, 2004, 01:23:46 am
Have the dimensions been completed yet? I checked Jakobud's site and didn't see them posted.

Cheers.

Any photo updates on the project?
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on September 11, 2004, 09:48:09 pm
I'm still in the planning and parts stage Goofy.  I like to have all my parts, required for the build, prior to commencement.  Then it's head down and ass up!

The plans are still at compilation stage via Jakobud, but close to completion.
Title: Re:Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: goofy on September 11, 2004, 11:55:27 pm
Yeah, I hear you there. I've been planning for quite a while now and don't really want to start anything until I know what I want.

Best of luck; it should be great.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on March 14, 2005, 12:40:58 am
This project is still high on my list.  However 6 months(and ongoing) of family based woes have stalled it.

As soon as my mates found out the tools(and brain) were recently operational again, one of them dropped an old Aussie Lowboy, in my small workshop, to renovate and mame.   I'm also 15% through building a 'Jungle Hunt' themed mame Bartop for the kids(alright....and me!).

Next project will definatley be the T&F replica.

Wade,  I'll contact you again in the near future if I require any info on this cab.

Cheers and game on again.
spriggy
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: Katana Man on March 14, 2005, 06:10:45 pm
I absolutely love Track and Field and HyperSports.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on March 14, 2005, 06:33:29 pm
Hearing things like this really show what this hobby is all about! :D

remaniscent
spriggy
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: paigeoliver on March 15, 2005, 06:58:16 am
Are you going to make an exact replica, or will you be doing any changes? If you are making any changes then you might want to examine the Atari Football and Dunk Shot cocktails (Atari Dunk Shot, not SEGA), as they look very similar but have cleaner lines and hold bigger monitors.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on March 15, 2005, 10:42:37 am
G'day Paige.

Making an exact replica in my situation and with the lack of resources available down here in the bottom corner of the globe would be overstating.

I am however going to attempt to make an externally asthetic replica of the T&F as accurate as my skills, and the resources available, allow.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: Wade on March 16, 2005, 11:57:01 am
I still have this game, so if you need more details on the assembly or the parts, measurements etc, just let me know!

BTW, Jakobud's measurements are good, but the base was an estimate.  Don't know if you plan to build that part or not.  I have that piece as well and can get the exact height of it.  It has rounded corners and it is slightly shorter than in his plans.

It would be impossible to build an exact replica of this game, unless the person has special tools and can bend his own control panels.  However, even using just wood, a replica could be made which looks nearly identical.  It could be indistinguishable in a photo or to the casual observer.

Spriggy, email me about some tips for the CP artwork as well!

TTYL,
Wade
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on March 16, 2005, 09:55:22 pm
Luckily I have access to a sheet metal fabrication and press shop up the road, so pressing up the panels won't be a problem.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: Wade on March 17, 2005, 01:58:53 pm
Spriggy,

If you have a way to bend heavy sheetmetal then you can make it look exactly the same from the outside.  The hinges are unusual but you could use piano style long hinges in place of them if you got creative on the underside of the CP's.  No one would look down under there anyway. :)

Wade
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: rchadd on May 27, 2005, 06:40:51 pm
hey i've just won myself a Hyper Olympics (the name of T & F in europe) pcb on ebay and i am currently thinking about build a replica cocktail cab as well.

have you finalized the design and plans yet?

i would really like to see them.

otherwise my cab will have to be just a best guess...
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on May 27, 2005, 11:12:36 pm
hey i've just won myself a Hyper Olympics (the name of T & F in europe) pcb on ebay and i am currently thinking about build a replica cocktail cab as well.

have you finalized the design and plans yet?

i would really like to see them.

otherwise my cab will have to be just a best guess...

I'll be using Wade's dimensions which Jakobud has compiled in CAD.  They are up at his site ...http://www.jakobud.com/cabinetPlans.php ... if you aren't aware already that is!

Wade also supplied me with some excellent pics of his cabinet during and after his restoration, which I'll be using as reference.  The pdf of the T&F cocktail contains some excellent cross-section and reference pics as well.

Once I've finished my run of 3 bartops that are already pre-sold, I'm starting on the planning stage of the T&F.  The only info I have on my project at this stage, is what I've just mentioned.

Feel free to ask for any help.

cheers
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: ras2a on May 29, 2005, 05:15:20 am
Need to chime in and say I salute thee, TnF is deffo one of my fav games of all time.  Super project and very much looking forward to see it. 

Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: HyperHautian on May 29, 2005, 08:57:33 am
DROOOOLLL!!! Hyper Sports was my ALL time FAVE!  It is the reason I will be building my own mame system.  This is the first cocktail cab that I like.  I had not thought about a 'stand up' cocktail.   

I was a 2 finger per button 'runner' as well, I could keep up with the pencil/plastic comb guys as well..

p.s. wow.. plastic comb, do they make those anymore.. lol
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on May 29, 2005, 09:26:57 am
DROOOOLLL!!! Hyper Sports was my ALL time FAVE!
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: rchadd on June 02, 2005, 06:32:06 am
i assume you are going to use leaf switches?

i figure microswitiches wouldn't feel right for track and field

ps. do you know a good supplier of new leaf switches (full assembly)?
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: spriggy on June 02, 2005, 08:52:08 am
i assume you are going to use leaf switches?

i figure microswitiches wouldn't feel right for track and field

ps. do you know a good supplier of new leaf switches (full assembly)?

Down in Perth Western Australia, nearly everything was micro's..except for the old old machines and the occassional original classic.  Hence, I really only knew micros.  Haven't decided yet.  The happs micros aren't overly fantastic for the game.  Haven't tried wico micro's but will be buying some soon to test.  Leafs will probably be the way I go.

You can get full assemblies @ Bob Roberts.....http://www.therealbobroberts.com/

I'm still juggling 3 more bartops as well as renovating and maming my mates aussie LAI lowboy (he wants it covered in YELLOW SHAGPILE FUR!!?)... so she's on hold probably for the next 2 months.
Title: Re: Commencing Soon: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail
Post by: Bones on June 02, 2005, 08:57:16 am
Cigarette lighters moved back and forth quickly got some good times. Didn't do much for the cabs though.  :(
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: spriggy on November 24, 2005, 09:40:30 pm
Alrighty then!.....
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: subcriminal on November 26, 2005, 08:22:06 am
You could add Numan Athletics to the list. Plays like track and field but with superheros and repetitive early 90's dance tunes. Good fun though!
Your Jungle MAME inspired my mate to build a bartop! He wanted a cab but lives at home with his parents so hasn't got the space. I think he's going top do a Mortal Kombat theme with single player controls and a plug in controller for player 2.
I can't wait to see this cocktail! It's gonna be cool 8)
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: spriggy on November 26, 2005, 09:07:37 pm
subcrim....
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: spriggy on January 22, 2007, 07:30:10 am
WELL.... AGAIN

As mentioned in an old thread Reply #28 on: November 25, 2005, 10:40:30 AM.... I was still in the same situation until recently.   Now with the illness crap aside and the last of the house stuff full steam ahead.. this project is still on the no 1. list of return builds (side by side with my 'Cosmic Guerilla' resto)

So.. as I was strolling through this thread http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62330.msg618500#msg618500 ('Jakobuds incorrect widebody dims').. I noticed Wade mentioned the T& F cocktail.. which brought back ideas about this project.

So.. having fairly recently learnt to use 'Sketchup 5 Pro' when designing my metal patio.. and a few hours spare @ work....I started playing with the T&F dims in SU5, so that I will have a dimensioned 3d model, ready to go for when I eventually start this beast.  I've PM'd Wade to see if he'll work with me again, and check the dims of my model. (#update - Wade's on board#)

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it.  I will not be doing a 2d cad plan.  I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them.  They will be in jpg format.

Wish me luck..... for god sake please!!!!! :hissy:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: DrewKaree on January 24, 2007, 05:24:54 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it.  I will not be doing a 2d cad plan.  I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them.  They will be in jpg format.


Consider me "anyone".  I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: spriggy on January 24, 2007, 08:13:11 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it.  I will not be doing a 2d cad plan.  I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them.  They will be in jpg format.


Consider me "anyone".  I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.

Done and Done 'anyone'
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' Cocktail.. Still on the cards!
Post by: spriggy on January 25, 2007, 08:05:15 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it.  I will not be doing a 2d cad plan.  I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them.  They will be in jpg format.


Consider me "anyone".  I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.

Drew, Just for your info... I've emailed a list of dimensions I need to Wade'O.. so should get them relatively soon.  I've done everything I can on the model based on Jakobuds plans (from Wade's dimensions). 
I have ---steaming pile of meadow muffin----loads of pics from Wade.. hence have used them as reference. 
I've used a bit of artistic license on some of the dimensions for internal mounting panels.. like the small side panels the CP and Glass sit-on.  I obviously used the pics as reference to get them as visually close as possible.  They look the same or very similar, but may be out by small fractions.  Not too worried as you won't see them AT ALL when she's together... but the "looking original' premise still stands rather upright! :P :) 
I think Wade has better things to worry about than measuring a 1" by 2" piece of dust collecting ply that sits on the inside bottom left of the cab!!  Like his up and coming clone (new baby)! ;D

Anyway, will dimension the ---smurfette--- as soon as the model is updated and throw u the lot.  I won't be building my T&F 'till I get this other son of a ---smurfette--- outta the way (see attached)  :dizzy: :-\

Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: DrewKaree on January 25, 2007, 08:50:19 am
Schweet!  You'll be done with yours before I even think about mine probably ;D 

I dunno if the CAD program you (or whoever) is using can spit out a cut list for parts, but if not, I've got a program that should do that, and if need be, I'll run it through that so that folks can optimize their materials and know just what the heck they'll have to buy when they go to the hardware store.

I dunno if anyone's paying attention, but if the Joust cocktail gets completed, I can offer the same thing (although any rounded/angled pieces will simply be squared off and final shapes will have to be handled by the cab creator).
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: DrewKaree on January 25, 2007, 09:04:35 am
....and I dunno if that's just a carport or a pergola for the house, but I've got a recent Fine Homebuilding issue that you might be interested in.  PM me if you want some more details about the magazine.  This is the issue I've got:  http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/fh_toc_178.asp

I know the pic doesn't really do it justice, but the table of contents is there, so..... :dunno
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: spriggy on January 25, 2007, 09:26:13 am
....and I dunno if that's just a carport or a pergola for the house, but I've got a recent Fine Homebuilding issue that you might be interested in.  PM me if you want some more details about the magazine.  This is the issue I've got:  http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/fh_toc_178.asp

I know the pic doesn't really do it justice, but the table of contents is there, so..... :dunno

Cheers Drew.  Yeh it's a pergola that I'm building off the side of the house (13.5 metres long (44+ feet)  = plenty of room for a spa, LCD tv, table, lounge and T&F cocktail!!! ;D).  Thanks for the reference to the mag.  This one's being built outta glavinised and colorbonded steel.. so I'm not sure the article will help.  Looks like it's reference to wood based pergolas.  Still..... would be interesting ta read!

Thanx
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: Wade on January 25, 2007, 03:20:35 pm
I'm planning to take a little time to deal with the T&F and also check the Moon Patrol plans some time over this weekend.  So stay tuned. :)

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: spriggy on January 25, 2007, 08:23:19 pm
Cool Wade.  I've added a few brackets and CP wiring access holes.  I'm done until new dims arrive.  8)  Because I don't have access to any CP hinges that resemble the original T&F ones, I've created a simple right angle bracket to which a normal straight hinge can be attached too.  It will operate the same way as the original.

Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: Wade on January 26, 2007, 12:24:35 pm
I'm not sure if the inner metal brackets on my game are original, because something was imperfect about their installation that made me think they were added later.  I don't know how I could tell for sure though, short of finding another one to compare to.  :dunno

Do you want to know where the exposed bolt heads are for the inner brackets?

TTYL,
Wade

Cool Wade.  I've added a few brackets and CP wiring access holes.  I'm done until new dims arrive.  8)  Because I don't have access to any CP hinges that resemble the original T&F ones, I've created a simple right angle bracket to which a normal straight hinge can be attached too.  It will operate the same way as the original.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: spriggy on January 26, 2007, 09:59:26 pm
I'm not sure if the inner metal brackets on my game are original, because something was imperfect about their installation that made me think they were added later.  I don't know how I could tell for sure though, short of finding another one to compare to.  :dunno


No big deal!


Do you want to know where the exposed bolt heads are for the inner brackets?


Nope.  I'm not going to have any exposed bolt heads.  Keeping it cleaner than the original.  Plus, other people may want to use different mounting bracket set-ups or different monitor configs/sizes.... hence, bolt locations will change.  I'll stick with parts of the cabinet that will not/or will most likely not change.  I won't be adding the monitor cut-out either... for the reason I aforementioned (different monitor set-ups)

Cheers m8
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: spriggy on February 23, 2007, 10:47:13 pm
Wade supplied me with some more dimensions.  God fricken bless him!  :cheers:  However, it seems a few areas were out in a couple of major places.  so... had to redo the CP's, Glass and support areas. 

So, the render is compiled with a combination of Jakobuds plans (originally from Dims by Wade anyway) and Wade's updated dims, in conjuction with a shite load of digital pics from Wade.
However, a very small handfull of dims related to the CP's and Glass areas are still out by no more than 1/16 - 1/8 of an inch.  With so many curves and angled bits, you only have to be off 1/16 of an inch, in your original measurements, for it to compound.   I also redesigned the CP/Glass support areas for easier material construction, inside the cabinet.  The premise is still an external asthetic replica, just sensibly updated.

BUT, I think I have found a very happy, slightly modded medium.  I just need to compile the extendable base and it will be finished.

Here's some x-ray shots at it's current stage.....

#edit#  Now with extension base..
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: spriggy on February 24, 2007, 01:19:36 am
Two hours before work..... and it's done! :)

And that's it for now.. My Patio materials arrive on Tuesday as well as the lads helping me out on the backyard retaining walls..   So.. with 2 big jobs running side by side.. I'll be flat chat for 2 or 3 weeks..

Cheers

#EDIT#
I've used 3/4" furring strips in the render, to put the main cabinet together (Just how the extension base was made originally).  I know the original cabinet is held together with some brackets (Such as around the access door).  Not sure if the rest of the main panels are held together with furring strips or brackets.  Regardless, I surmise people will make personal choices in relation to this, based on available materials.

Drew, let us know when u want the dimensions.  I'll find some time to add the dims and send you a shite load of jpegs!! ;D

Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Wade on February 24, 2007, 10:43:41 am
Looks sweet Spriggy!

The bottom line on the differences between my own dims is I'm simply not able to measure things with an accuracy of more than about 1/16" or even 1/8", especially in certain areas like curves and such (the metal bar that supposts the glass is a good example - some of the bends on it aren't well defined).  I simply don't have the tools. :(  I don't have calipers or even a highly precise yard stick.  Most of my tools are just common construction tools.  The tick marks on my yardstick are probably 1/32" thick. :/

Oh, and the inside of the cabinet has both furring strips and brackets.  The brackets are opposite of the carriage bolt heads exposed on the outside of the cabinet.  Same for the extension base.

Good luck!

TTYL,
Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Wade on February 24, 2007, 10:45:16 am
Oh, I almost forgot - the grills are on the opposite side of the cabinet too!  I think there is only one speaker and it's on the access door side.

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: spriggy on February 28, 2007, 06:52:51 am
Oh, I almost forgot - the grills are on the opposite side of the cabinet too!  I think there is only one speaker and it's on the access door side.

Wade

Done.  NOW I think it's done!! ??
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: shardian on February 28, 2007, 09:14:56 am
FYI, you can get a plastic pair of calipers at Big Lots for $2 that are surprisingly accurate. ;)
However I'd say 1/16" is quite good enough in this case.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Wade on March 02, 2007, 01:31:01 pm
What's the largest size those calipers can measure?

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: shardian on March 02, 2007, 01:33:42 pm
Off-hand, I'd say somehwhere between 4 and 6 inches. They are dial calipers too.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Wade on March 06, 2007, 08:03:04 am
Not large enough to measure a cabinet, but would probably work well for lots of smaller stuff.  I may have to stop by and check it out! :)

TTYL,
Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: spriggy on February 08, 2008, 08:32:11 am
WELL  ::)   Almost 12 months since my last post ...  ::) (U lazy bastard)
Still alive and on the planet.  Missed this place... but '07 was a biggy for the family in various ways.. so I had to stop the hobby for a while...... ONCE AGAIN.  Grrrrrrrr :-\

The patio and all the other little jobs around the house are done.. Just a few rooms to be repainted... Damn 5 y/o boy and his flying matchbox cars make wicked dents!! :P

HENCE... hopefully can get back to the wood and wires soon!!!

Hold on.... didn't the beginning of this '04 thread say "hopefully soon"??

I need to shut the hell up me thinks!! ???

So the T&F project is still on the cards.  3rd in line next to my mates Aussie Lowboy i'm doin' for him, then my Universal 'Cosmic Guerilla' resto and then thisun'

Later..
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: shardian on February 08, 2008, 08:51:29 am
WELL  ::)   Almost 12 months since my last post ...  ::) (U lazy bastard)
Still alive and on the planet.  Missed this place... but '07 was a biggy for the family in various ways.. so I had to stop the hobby for a while...... ONCE AGAIN.  Grrrrrrrr :-\

The patio and all the other little jobs around the house are done.. Just a few rooms to be repainted... Damn 5 y/o boy and his flying matchbox cars make wicked dents!! :P

HENCE... hopefully can get back to the wood and wires soon!!!

Hold on.... didn't the beginning of this '04 thread say "hopefully soon"??

I need to shut the hell up me thinks!! ???

So the T&F project is still on the cards.  3rd in line next to my mates Aussie Lowboy i'm doin' for him, then my Universal 'Cosmic Guerilla' resto and then thisun'

Later..


Hope you got everything you needed from Wade, he sold his T&F.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: spriggy on February 08, 2008, 09:41:16 am
WT#?  Sold his beloved T&F??   Noooo? :'(

I would have known that if my lazy ass had kept in contact with him.

Yep.. I have everything I need thanks 2 him.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Wade on February 12, 2008, 06:17:45 pm
WT#?  Sold his beloved T&F??   Noooo? :'(

I would have known that if my lazy ass had kept in contact with him.

Yep.. I have everything I need thanks 2 him.

It's true... but it went to a good local home and I'm sure I'll visit it occasionally. :)

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model complete#
Post by: Jakobud on February 12, 2008, 07:20:39 pm
Good stuff!  I'm always glad to see my plans put to good use.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 13, 2009, 12:57:22 am
More than a year after my last post on this thread ... and along time since regular posting on byoac.... and I'M BACK!!
Woo fricken HOO  :cheers:

Instead of dribbling on forever about the last 4 years .. as I can do  ::) .. in brief ..
 Everythings back to normal ... wife is fine now ... kids are older ... and I'm back with my beloved hobby.  Have re-freshed myself with old and new contacts, prices, availability of parts etc and the general scene.  I started my mates aussie lowboy a few weeks ago ( my first return project) and it's fairly close to being finished.... So once that lowboy 4 year old monkey is off my back... I can start my project list.

And this baby is the first cab off the rack.  I was going to restore my 'Cosmic Guerilla' first.. but after 4 years of not a single build.. my router and all it's cousins are itching to come back out  >:D

I've revised the project a bit.  Now that I'm older and ever so slightly wiser ... no longer will I waste such a beautiful cabinet to mame.  I'll wire her up in her native Konami Classic harness and run the original pcb.  I'll also set-up the sequel , Hyper Sports , in the CT for easy switch over.  I'm quite over mame!  Back to my roots.  Sure mame has it's place in some circumstances... but not in this baby!! :afro:

I'm currently sourcing the main parts .. ie pcb, coin door etc ... with some shipping quotes on the go as I speak.

Also refreshing myself with my sketchup plans and making tweaks where neccessary..

Game On!!
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 15, 2009, 03:07:52 am
Troops.  A'little help if possible.

Just revising and finalising the plans --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- the build.  I have sourced an original Centuri Coin door (with raised 'Centuri' lettering plate), however it does not have the coin mechs.  I'm ignorant of these doors, due to never seeing one here in OZ, hence curious if these mechs are quite standard and easy to replace, or are they Konami/Centuri specific?  I'm guessing standard, but I don't want to grab it and find out the hard way.

Secondly what type of coin mechs would they be, if standard and available, so that I can source and price them.

Also (and Wade.. if your reading).  All the pics of the T&F i have from the net and Wade, don't show the internals around the coin door and how it interacts with a coin bucket/box.  I also have no idea whether it used a bucket or wooden box. etc

The pdf of a T&F Cocktail manual is ever ellusive.  If anyone has the original manual, a simple scan or snapshot of the specific page related to this area would help alot... if a pic of that area exists in the manual that is.  OR .. a digital snap of the coin box/bucket and it's position inside the cabinet would be a thumbs up.

Cheers in advance ladies. :P
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: Wade on July 15, 2009, 07:43:47 am
Quick note for now!

The coin mechs themselves are standard.  They are easy to find (for US coins or for tokens) for very little money around here, in fact I still have a box of them I picked up for free years ago.  So no worries about buying a door with no mechs and having to track down "special" mechs.

The coin box was a pretty standard flat square black plastic tray, like what you'd find in an Atari Centipede or Missile Command.  There are a couple of plywood pieces going perpendicular to the coin door face and that attach to an internal wall in the center of the game, and the tray rests down in that, if I remember correctly.  I could get some pics from my friend's machine, but it might be a while before I'm down there again.

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 15, 2009, 08:02:29 am
Thankyou my friend.  That'll do just fine.  Quite simple.  I have a pic of the internal wall.. so that's fine and I get the jist of the perpendicular panels.  Excellent.  I'm bound to find a pick of a Missile Command or Centipede coin tray/box out there.  Give me an idea of replicating or obtaining something similar.   Cheers.

Secondly.. expect a PM if I get this coin door.   Something about an exchange of $$ for mechs  :afro:


#Edit#  3 minutes later  8)

Found this handy link .... http://driph.com/words/2009/04/arcade-coin-bucket-cash-box-reference/

Which one is it most like Wade?
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 15, 2009, 09:46:02 am
 :dizzy:

Got home and got a reply from the Coin Door seller..  $15 for the door .... $85 for the shipping!!  :censored:  How's that ?? ... shipping via 'Airforce One' possibly??

I'll keep looking me thinks.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: Wade on July 15, 2009, 09:53:28 am
:dizzy:

Got home and got a reply from the Coin Door seller..  $15 for the door .... $85 for the shipping!!  :censored:  How's that ?? ... shipping via 'Airforce One' possibly??

I'll keep looking me thinks.

My memory can't be trusted.  After looking at that web page, I remember now that it had a galvanized steel bucket, probably the same as the Centuri one pictured on that web page!

He must be shipping with airmail.  See if he'd do normal surface shipping, shouldn't be too expensive.

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 15, 2009, 10:50:46 am
:dizzy:

Got home and got a reply from the Coin Door seller..  $15 for the door .... $85 for the shipping!!  :censored:  How's that ?? ... shipping via 'Airforce One' possibly??

I'll keep looking me thinks.

My memory can't be trusted.  After looking at that web page, I remember now that it had a galvanized steel bucket, probably the same as the Centuri one pictured on that web page!

He must be shipping with airmail.  See if he'd do normal surface shipping, shouldn't be too expensive.

Wade

Thx dude.  In the end.. I suppose it's a fricken coin box!!  I don't think my old BYOAC tokens are gonna care if it's plastic, wood, original, pretend  ::)

Yeh .. my last shipment from the US in '06 cost me $65US (with $100 insurance) via surface.. that was for a single package of full Bezel (Glass), populated Metal CP, Coin Door and Marquee.  I'll mail him again.

Have fully revised the sketchup model, changing a few internal parts to match the original cab logistics better.  Revised ALL of my digital pics from Wade's machine .. in and out ... as a guide.   One more revision on the cabinet sides and i think it's ready for build time.

The cabinet will look confidentally identical externally... and pretty close internally.  From what I can tell from pics ... things like the main cross beams that the upper part of the control panels are screwed to, were originally pressed up in mild steel, with a fancy extra flange.  I've changed parts like this in certain ways to make construction a bit easier.  EG.. this is now a 3/8" thick piece of wood/mdf, with a 1/16" piece of sheet metal attached,  pressed to suit (resting edge for the cardboard bezel)  You get the gist ;)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4953/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg) (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/tracknfieldcocktail3dmo.jpg/)

Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #I'm back .. and so is this project!#
Post by: spriggy on July 15, 2009, 01:07:53 pm

He must be shipping with airmail.  See if he'd do normal surface shipping, shouldn't be too expensive.

Wade

No luck unfort.  His post office doesn't send surface anymore apparhently.  I'll keep hunting.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Sourcing Parts#
Post by: spriggy on July 16, 2009, 12:56:27 am
I think that's it for the plans now.  Re-referenced dimensions and digital pics, and modified the plans to final stage.  The inner panels around the coin box area will be dealt with at buld stage.  Will need to get the monitor in first and then work around that.  Found one pic of the innards to help for this stage.

The build is probably a month away, whilst I finish the mates cab.  Parts for that should be here this week.

Game On :afro:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Sourcing Parts#
Post by: Wade on July 16, 2009, 03:16:58 pm
From that pic of the insides, it looks like the coin box just rests on the bottom, and has a couple of small blocks on the bottom to keep it from sliding back and forth.  You could probably confirm that by using your drawings.  I'd guesstimate the depth of the coin box to be 5-6".  Of course I can confirm most of this IF I see my buddy's cocktail in the near future.  He is having a minor sprite problem so there is a chance I will be stopping by to work on his PCB.

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Sourcing Parts#
Post by: spriggy on July 16, 2009, 07:27:02 pm
Not the end of the world mate.  If you get there --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- I get to this stage of the build .. a measuring tape would be handy m8  ;D  Then I'll either get one pressed up and spot welded like the original or I'll just find a square bucket similar to the plastic coin boxs, as listed on that above coin box link.  It's looks like coin box 7, or a modified version, is probably used in this.  Unless I could get cheap shipping on this item... I'l be sourcing or building locally.

Thx again for the offer.
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Sourcing Parts#
Post by: spriggy on October 30, 2009, 02:32:49 am
Sadly I don't really lurk around my old forum pretty much anymore  :-\  Regardless .. didn't want to be rude and leave this old thread hanging incomplete.

Well the cabinet is coming along.  I'm now building  2 of them , as I'm building one for a mate and swapping it for a nice cab he has.  The one pictured below is his (he wanted a single slot coin door, as opposed to the double slotter).  There is not a lot of poetic license, so it's quite true to the original.  A few brackets are slightly different and a few other things will be/have been modded from the original (PCB mounting, coin box, cp supports etc), but the concepts are the same.   Just waiting for replica bezels to be done and then I'll test fit the monitor.  I'm hitting up the sheet metal shop monday to sort out the control panels.

They'll then be wired up to Konami classic standard with the original pcbs.  I'll later track down a 'Hyper Sports' board and run both in the my cab.

Hope the forum is still doing well. Cheers

(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/89/constr8.jpg) (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/constr8.jpg/) (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/constr8.jpg/1/w800.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img403/constr8.jpg/1/)
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(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3188/cpos.jpg) (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/cpos.jpg/) (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/cpos.jpg/1/w800.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img29/cpos.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Under Construction x 2#
Post by: jmike on October 30, 2009, 06:40:26 am
 :applaud: That looks amazing! Track and Field is one of my favorite games of all time. Keep up the good work and keep them pics coming.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Under Construction x 2#
Post by: Shortbus on November 01, 2009, 07:44:26 am
Track and Field Rocks, nice work there as well. Good work so far.....now finish it already....just kidding, i know how it goes.....I'll keep an eye on this....for sure.......keep up the good work.....looks great .....

oh, and one other thing, your Avatar is very cool . I like it alot....   :cheers:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Under Construction x 2#
Post by: Wade on November 03, 2009, 07:20:30 pm
Nice, that looks unreal!  Extremely true to the original.  More so than practically anything I've seen on here before!

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Under Construction x 2#
Post by: spriggy on November 03, 2009, 07:42:11 pm
Nice, that looks unreal!  Extremely true to the original.  More so than practically anything I've seen on here before!

Wade

Thats a big call my friend .. but I'll take the compliment anyway  8) .  The major difference is the control panel lockdown supports and the wingnut'd brackets holding in the monitor mount panel.  Conceptually the same, but visually different.  Was more practical.

About time I got this project going huh!?? :dizzy:
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. Still on the cards... #3D Model in progress#
Post by: Wade on November 04, 2009, 04:22:33 pm
I'm not sure if the inner metal brackets on my game are original, because something was imperfect about their installation that made me think they were added later.  I don't know how I could tell for sure though, short of finding another one to compare to.  :dunno

BTW, clarification on this... you may have understood anyway...

I meant the 4 inner metal bracks up under the control panel area.  Those are the only ones that seemed like they might have not been original.  They aren't visible anyway so it's no big deal.  All the other bolts and brackets on the cabinet were original.

Wade
Title: Re: Replica 'Track & Field' CT.. #Under Construction x 2#
Post by: spriggy on August 14, 2010, 09:49:39 am
Well .. as aforementioned above (over 120 days ago  ::) ) although I don't trundle around my old BYOAC haunt anymore ( frequent my home forum 'Aussie Arcade' & COSP)  .. as this project idea was originally spawned nearly 6 years ago on here.. I'd thought I'd grant some BYOAC respect and pretty much put it to bed  8)
Hence ... the 1st of the 2 scratch-built T&F cocktails has finally finished construction as of 2day.  In fact .. it was delivered to my mate 2day.  As he is a local home based repair techie & collector of Arcades and Pinnies.. he wanted to wire her up himself.  So the cabinet arrived @ his shed finished, but empty.  he's throwing in the monitor/chassis, full harness wiring/power set-up and speakers.  He'll be running a Dual jamma switcher to run Track & Field & Hyper Sports boards.
My cabinet will be next ... with most of the panels already router template cut off this one .. plus I have all the processes down pat.  I too will also run both boards.
A big thanks to my boy 'Wade'!!!  .. as without him ... this never would have happened.  :cheers:
Cheers all & Game On!!  :afro:

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3085/tfready2build.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/tfready2build.jpg/)

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4888/tfreconstruct1.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/tfreconstruct1.jpg/)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1791/tfreconstruct2.jpg) (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/tfreconstruct2.jpg/)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9428/tfreconstuct4.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/tfreconstuct4.jpg/)

(http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8522/tfreconstruct3.jpg) (http://img806.imageshack.us/i/tfreconstruct3.jpg/)

Farewell ..
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2444/tfleaveshome.jpg) (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/tfleaveshome.jpg/)

Done ...
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4227/tfdone.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/tfdone.jpg/)

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3477/tfdone2.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/tfdone2.jpg/)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7753/tfdone3.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/tfdone3.jpg/)

Clearer final shot --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- she left my place.  No T-molding
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/356/tfb4tmolding.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/tfb4tmolding.jpg/)
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: opt2not on August 14, 2010, 03:37:24 pm
Stunning!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: Wade on August 15, 2010, 04:51:06 pm
Wow, that's truly impressive!!  Looks like a mint condition original!  You did a great job matching up the locations of even the smallest details.  Really inspirational.

I really miss mine, it was the best party game and appealed to all ages.  Maybe I'll get another one some day.  I do get to play it sometimes though.  Played it a month or so ago at my buddy's place, even set a record on the long jump! (And we never cleared the audits because there are still records on it that were set at my house by other guests!)

Glad to see one of them wrapped up.  Now to see your keeper get completed!

Wade
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: spriggy on August 15, 2010, 05:26:12 pm
Wow, that's truly impressive!!  Looks like a mint condition original!  You did a great job matching up the locations of even the smallest details.  Really inspirational.

I really miss mine, it was the best party game and appealed to all ages.  Maybe I'll get another one some day.  I do get to play it sometimes though.  Played it a month or so ago at my buddy's place, even set a record on the long jump! (And we never cleared the audits because there are still records on it that were set at my house by other guests!)

Glad to see one of them wrapped up.  Now to see your keeper get completed!

Wade


Thx my boy.  Been a long hall .. but  worth it.  Alot of the heart in this baby is yours m8  8)   Your ruler was thing that got this going m8.... so Thank You.
Looking foward to try and beat my 8.7sec 100metre times when mine is done!!
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: emphatic on August 20, 2010, 06:42:39 pm
That's awesome!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: brock.sampson on August 20, 2010, 09:56:40 pm
That turned out beautiful.  I'm inching along on mine.  Hopefully I can get something done this weekend.  I'm going to try and make my control panels out of wood instead of metal.
Title: Re: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :)
Post by: spriggy on August 20, 2010, 10:20:14 pm
Thx for the comments lads.  Good luck on your build Brock.  :afro: