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Title: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on August 29, 2004, 11:18:37 am: Hi all!

Im new here and have recently completed the first of a small batch of scratch built tabletops .The design should be familiar to most aussies. its based on early 80's 20" hankin tabletop.

I have a crude website under construction, but at the moment more pics can be seen at www.users.on.net/~mmem

Let me know what you think!
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Edgedamage on August 29, 2004, 01:28:12 pm: #1 welcome

#2 nice looking cab.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: rchadd on August 29, 2004, 01:37:15 pm: nice looking cab

with all that CP width i'm surprised you put one 1 joystick and 2 buttons on it.

could try squeezing a 2 1/4" trackball on there for some Centipede action

and another joystick on there for some Robotron and crazy climber
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on August 29, 2004, 08:49:23 pm: Thanx !

Cab i s vertical screen only and has about 50 classics on it.
(advancemame/menu - dos)
I wanted to keep as close to the originial design as possible.
I also think in some cases too many buttons/controls can intimidate those not arcade orientated..ie wifes,little kids, mums etc (seriously not wishing to start a debate)
track ball would be nice but centipede plays well enough with 8way for now.

here is a pick of the beatup old cab i took the design from...
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: DarkKobold on August 30, 2004, 01:33:36 am: I dig it. You say you are making multiples? For sale or for friends or for both?

Also, I have a cocktail which is pre-drilled for 2 buttons (plus start) I wish it only had 1, personally. Name like three really good classic verticals with more than one button, opps.... wait, don't. No debating! ;D
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on August 30, 2004, 02:05:47 am: yes im making multiple cabs... http://www.users.on.net/~mmem/4frame_5.jpg all reserved for family & friends. I would have liked to make more to offer for sale, but I only had 6 monitors (21" vga arcade monitors), besides if i spend too much more time in the garage divorce papers may be issued.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: ButeLegz-II on August 30, 2004, 06:16:26 am: Nice one, I looove Hankins... so solid. Great to see someone build one ( or two or three... ) from scratch & from looking at those pics, build them really really well! This style & the style of the one that I restored/customised ( http://wwwhomepages.ihug.com.au/~simons3 ) pretty much covers all the cocktails that were around here in OZ, I'd like to have the set! I you're not planning on making them on mass, have you considered selling/posting just the plans?
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on August 30, 2004, 09:52:27 am: thanks mate! My plans and drawing are seriously fragmented at the moment, I found an original cab in a melbourne pub.with camera & ruler in hand, In I march and snap away. (hearing muffled questions to bartender - Whats that --missioncontrol-- doin over there?)

As mention plans are scattered oved 20 or so tattered pieces of paper. one day in the future I will organize better and publish... but seriously snowed under at the moment.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on August 30, 2004, 11:24:42 am: Marcus,

All I can say is fantastic!

And all I can do is further encourage you to sell or post, or as you see fit, the dimensions of that cabinet, as even though the US style of cocktail is well documented for construction, there was from memory only one good website that gave dimensions to the style of table top you have there.

Out of curiousity which pub in Melbourne?

-Alex
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on August 30, 2004, 06:39:33 pm: Thanks Alex,

You and legzy have insired me to get some plans happening.
It may take afew weeks as wife (and baby) has severely cut my garage schedule.
BTW pub was normandy hotel, clifton hill. unsure if cab is still there. Pics were taken 12 months ago.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on August 30, 2004, 10:11:34 pm: Fantastic to hear Marcus. Looking forward with much anticipation.

Good luck with the wife and baby as well.

-Alex
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Fuzzguitar on August 31, 2004, 07:52:24 am: WOW!

I'm so impressed, that is one sensational job. This is just what I want, but have no room, tools, knowledge or time to even attempt building. It would match the other old Aussie upright I'm restoring to a tea.

It's a million times better than this load of crap someone has been flogging on ebay forever:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3945&item=6116145269&rd=1

...and more "classic" for Aussies than the upcoming Ozstick cocktail which is based on the common US style (haven't ever seen a real one of those here) which can be found here:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/ozstick/prod_kitcabs.html

Plus, what I love, is that the panel isn't mounted vertically into the side of the cabinet which can give you very, very sore wrists after playing Galaga and the like! Unfortunately about 90% of our cocktails I've ever come across are like that.

Soooooo, if you ever consider making another or if somebody pulls out please keep me in mind for first chance to buy. I am definately getting a cocktail and this is like my dream cabinet.

I'd be over the moon if you could just sell me the cab without CP cut, I could customise that on my own, even order my own glass and you could leave it empty altogether so I'd handle selecting and mounting the monitor too :) Starting to see how much I dig your work yet?

Congrats.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on August 31, 2004, 08:41:39 am: good one!! its all starting to happen with the 'aussie' style cabs (",). that ebay one isnt that bad, but not what i would want (gotta have steel legs). edit: he IS selling THOSE stools though. so thats a plus :)
and yes, what are ozstick doing selling the US style?
your glass clips are great! i realised after i made mine that really they should look something like what youve made, but im happy with mine (cant be bothered making new ones anyway!).
let us know when you have a site.

actually, i should start putting links to more 'aussie' style cabs on my site. helps give more resources so 'strines' arent tempted into building yank cabs ;)
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: atari2600chick on August 31, 2004, 06:10:56 pm: Hey I think your cabinet is great. :) Yes it is great to see Aussie cab's being built. Very well done.... I like where your CP is positioned, makes for more comfy gameplay. I have an Aussie Gaplus (Galaga3) cocktail cabinet and the CP is lower and you can get sore wrists after playing.

Of course the perfect addition for cocktail cabinets are those "Tam Tam Stools"...... I bought 2X white Caroma stools for my cab from Bunnings Hardware store $22 ea just a few months ago. We still have an original green Caroma stool from the 80's.... and the Bunnings stools are exactly the same. The two white stools look perfect with a retro cocktail cabinet....
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: hunky_artist on September 01, 2004, 05:00:42 am: can i ask how you did the CP? is it a metal one or did you make one out of wood/ply etc

....by the way.. it looks GREAT! ;D
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on September 01, 2004, 10:16:36 am: Thank for the paraise guys!

Control panels are made from 2 pieces of 1mm steel, 1 folded & 1 flat (the very underside) .
On the original hankin design the CP is hinged along the front uderside. if you undo screws under the top edge the whole CP pivots out from the cab (like a giant clam) exposing controls and wiring.
I got lazy at the end and skipped the hinge.
It is powder coated in textured black. very robust and easy to clean.
BTW powder coating isnt all that expensive. most place have a minimum work cost. in my case $30. so 1 Piece = $30 or 10 pcs=$30.
I know I will new paint any metalwork again.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: DarkSoul1 on September 01, 2004, 11:17:01 am: Excellent job marcus.

Are the control panels bent sheet metal?

I've restored an LAI cocktail here http://www.users.on.net/~bradandpam/cocktail/index.html

and also thought the old vertical CP's were a pain. My CP's are very bulky and I'm looking to replace with slimline similar to yours.

I'm also gearing up to make a few cocktails in the next few weeks when I start holidays, based on the cab I restored.

That will depend on how many pavers I lay and other "job" the wife has for me!

;D
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on September 01, 2004, 11:53:16 am: the CPs are folded steel.
Even if you have no experience with sheet metal its not too tricky.
some large trade plumbing stores have workshops out back with metal work equipment you can pay to use..my place is $15per 1/2hr.
the manual guillotine is easy to use , electric ones look scary but still easy to use.
same with folding equipment.
If youve never used either maybe go in and watch someone for a bit .
When you do it yourself you can get EXACTLY what you want, and you know you arent getting ripped off.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on October 13, 2004, 07:29:42 am: hey have you got a site yet?
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: dtu on October 27, 2004, 04:24:08 am: Quote from: danny_galaga on August 31, 2004, 08:41:39 am
good one!! its all starting to happen with the 'aussie' style cabs (",). that ebay one isnt that bad, but not what i would want (gotta have steel legs). edit: he IS selling THOSE stools though. so thats a plus :)

As recently posted those stool are available from Freedom Furniture and the picture looks like it comes from their site.
http://www.freedom.com.au/wis/live/162/p/169.asp

Think I'll be going down to Freedom this weekend to have a look.

By the way very nice job. As an Aussie I definatley want to make an Aussie style Cocktail cab.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: paigeoliver on October 27, 2004, 04:30:49 am: I think it is funny you guys call them Aussie style cabs, when they are properly Japanese style cabinets.

My favorite kind is the one Centuri used to use, it had the control panel at a 45 degree angle, which was nice.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: dtu on October 28, 2004, 04:34:21 am: It's probably because it's the only style of cocktail we really saw down here. It's definately the only style I remember seeing, and I'm 30yrs old. ;D
So most of us equate that style with being Aussie.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: paigeoliver on October 28, 2004, 04:44:03 am: You guys get the Japanese style monitors too. 14" and 20" models. We never saw those in the US except for on early imported Sega machines. All our stuff was 13" and 19".
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on October 28, 2004, 06:24:38 am: Quote from: paigeoliver on October 28, 2004, 04:44:03 am
You guys get the Japanese style monitors too. 14" and 20" models. We never saw those in the US except for on early imported Sega machines. All our stuff was 13" and 19".

hehe. so you see, we're always '1' up on you guys (",) . for the record, i always refer to them as 'aussie' style to show that it's not an exclusive thing. after all, i'm pretty sure the guy i got the dimensions from was in the states...

edit: but now i know, i think i will refer to them as japanese(aussie) style...
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: RayB on October 28, 2004, 07:19:34 pm: Quote from: paigeoliver on October 28, 2004, 04:44:03 am
You guys get the Japanese style monitors too. 14" and 20" models. We never saw those in the US except for on early imported Sega machines. All our stuff was 13" and 19".

Paige, Atari "Missile Command" cocktail and possibly others in the US used 14" monitors that were "custom" made for Atari (Atari's words, not mine). Check the MC Cocktail manual. States it right there under "new parts" section. (The monitors were made by either Sanyo or Matsushita).

~Ray B.
Title: Re:Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: wboy on November 03, 2004, 09:13:34 am: Quote from: marcus. on August 29, 2004, 11:18:37 am
Let me know what you think!

Very nice job indeed.... but not as good as mine..... :P

But then again, I didn't build mine, so why am I trying to take the glory from you! ;D ;)

I picked mine up around 7+ years ago before the mame craze too off. Infact it was the old dos System8 emulator (with no sound) that supported wonder boy deluxe and pitfall 2 that made me buy it. Played it, relived the memories.... thought it would be cool to own one.... so I search around, and with luck found a machine in excellent knick.

I recently mame'd the cabinet, and had it converted to Jamma in the process. Still have the original bootleg wonder boy PCB that I bought with it.

Back in the day, the cabinet cost me $600 AUD (or so), and the PCB was $50.

Same thing though the same dealer now goes for alot more thanks to the home arcade craze mame as started.

But yeah, I'm very impressed with your replica! Great job!
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on December 03, 2004, 09:55:58 am: Marcus,

I hope everything is going smoothly with the wife and new born.

Any updates on the plans for this cabinet? Even just rough dimensions and the like. Looking forward with some interest.

-Alex
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: LordDamo on December 07, 2004, 09:04:58 am: Bloody brilliant!!!! I would love one of those! In a few months, im going to start to build a galaga style Aussie/ japanese/ UK cab. As someone said earlier, I would love the full set. Cant wait till you post some plans.

Oh, and I know this is a bit late, but Gday and welcome to the board . . .
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Invader04 on February 01, 2005, 10:54:43 am: Dear Marcus,
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on February 02, 2005, 06:43:31 am: Hi Guys,

apologies for not responding to any personal emails (sorry alex) and checking the forum regularly..
Im on annual leave in 2 weeks and will be reacquainting with my garage after a 1 year spell.
I will be doing some major finishing off, and at the same time i will record plans as i go which i will endeavor to post online. give me a month or three.
Thanks again for the kind words.

marcus
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on February 04, 2005, 12:03:02 am: Welcome back Marcus. Great to hear that you are still around. Hope everything is going well for some annual leave and looking forward to what you can create.

Good luck!

-Alex
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on March 03, 2005, 06:56:29 am: Hi All!

Here is some updated pics.
All the woodworking/metalwork is now done and its time to fit out the insides.
I'm beginning to think this project is more ambitious than the scoresby freeway (which will probably be finished before me)
Anyways, 2 down 3 to go...

(http://www.users.on.net/~mmem/images/2005-03-03%20024.jpg)

(http://www.users.on.net/~mmem/images/2005-03-03%20023.jpg)

(http://www.users.on.net/~mmem/images/2005-03-03%20022.jpg)

BTW- I havent forgot the plans, but I'm going to wait untill I'm on the last cab, this way they won't be rushed.

Also its great to see so many other aussie cocktails on the go!
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on March 03, 2005, 08:23:00 am: .
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Mickey Juice on March 03, 2005, 05:29:16 pm: Great work marcus!
Not sure if this has been answered but what is the monitor ? Arcade or PC?

Great pic too Danny ;)
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on March 03, 2005, 07:05:30 pm: LOL - the ultimate compliment - tanks Danny.

Monitor is an open frame type arcade vga monitor

toshiba tube 21"
entron? chassis
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: NiN^_^NiN on March 03, 2005, 07:26:17 pm: Great work on the cabs i like them very much :)

It's like ATTACK OF THE AUSSIE COCKTAIL WEEK hehe

it's good to see your doing well on the projects im very impressed :)

Altho i think u should use Gamelauncher but thats my personal preference ;D

I love the woodwork u did very nice :)

It's a shame the cocktails are getting rare now i've seen hardly any and arcade shops are starting to sell them at like $500 now :(

You should make 2 more empty shells and sell them on on ebay or some guys here.

I don't like the type as mentioned before that ozstick and some guy on email has been hocking off for $500 for just a CAB

I hope u release the blueprints for this as soon there will be no more cocktails in aus besides us mame/arcade people :(
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: mod on May 31, 2005, 07:35:49 am: Hello Marcus,

Great work on the hankin cabs. I also would like the plans to these. Hope you'll post soon.

Regards,

Mod.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: mod on June 23, 2005, 09:49:58 pm: Marcus,

Where are you? :(
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on June 26, 2005, 01:10:37 am: yeah, we miss you!! i wanted to see a whole row of all your cabs all running a different game on them. that would be sweet (",)
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Wetworks on June 29, 2005, 12:08:41 am: :D
Great thread...The Hankin Cocktails in my opinion are one of the best produced very solid..large...and quite easy to work on for a cocktail. I live in Australia (Tasmania) and caught onto the Mame thing about five years ago with err *cough* Mac Mame. Limited back then I was over the moon. And then the itch developed grabbed a cheap usb joystick hacked it to a "Tank Arcade Joystick" (great for newbies if you can get hold of one genuine arcade parts in metal box) Joy oh joy SuperGalaxians was back and in my house. So to cut a long story short I found a few cocktails tables around and five years later have two working one sold three pinballs and an original MortalKombat II. Whew.. And can now do basic monitor repairs.. So back to the Hankins.. I have posted a couple picks of the cocktails cabs I have ( sorry for the low quality photo's ) If anyone is interested I will post better ones and more info. One is an original Donkey Kong (not mamed of course) and the other was a generic chassis which I rewired for jamma arcade monitor ..Jpac and running about 1000 Vertical games.. notice the painted DK control panel wish the artwork was in better condition.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: danny_galaga on June 29, 2005, 10:12:59 pm: sounds good although you wouldnt know from those tiny pictures! got any bigger ones?
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Wetworks on June 30, 2005, 11:01:45 am: :D
Thanks Danny...going to buy a new digi cam tomorrow and take some better pics!!! I'm a bit of a hack here compered to some of the dudes here but if it wasn't for them I would be ...how you say it..stuffed..to be polite..
I just want to say thanks for this forum and the people here (and the mame dudes) without this (and mame ) life would of been a lot duller!
Mr Do!!!
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: marcus. on July 06, 2005, 11:05:05 am: Hi Guys!

Ive been busy moving house for the last 2 months...man have i got some crap! my garage had more stuff than in my house. It may sound cool to have 4 uprights and 4 tabletops, but when its time to move its a pain in the @#$

The stuff i have been throwing away would make some of you guys weep!
Anyways i have some leftover metalwork for my cocktails for sale on my website if anyone is interested.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~marcus.w/

Sorry, still no plans as yet...have to get the (very old) new house watertight and de-rat-infested.

-wetworks: get those pics posted, we want to see more hankins.
-Mod: I finally replied!
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: mod on July 20, 2005, 10:59:08 pm: Bummer - I missed marcus's sale.

Does anybody know more about who originally manufactured the hankin cabs?

Regards,

Mod.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: Wetworks on July 20, 2005, 11:50:49 pm: Well the Hankin cabs were distributed by "Leisure & Allied Industries" which I think are still around. I can also remember seeing a Hankin Pinball on the net too! I haven't come across any of these on international web pages so I presume the cabinets were made, assembled in Australia and boards,instructions,monitors came in a kit etc which
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: DannyH on July 21, 2005, 03:41:15 am: man they look good. can you tell me if you have any detailed plans for this. Would love one of these bad boys
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: mod on August 24, 2005, 09:39:30 pm: Marcus,

Any update on the progress of your plans being available to the public? I'm really looking forward to them - even if they are just line drawings with dimensions.

Regards,

Mod.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: damono on August 27, 2005, 04:25:57 am: Yeh, im looking at building a cocktail cabinet soon and would LOVE a set of plans to work off

Cheers
damo
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: mod on October 06, 2005, 06:20:19 pm: Marcus,

Any updates yet as to having plans available ?

Mod.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on June 06, 2006, 09:13:29 am: * bump *

For marcus or anyone else out there who may have the Hankin Table's dimensions.

-Alex
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: loadman on June 11, 2006, 08:44:11 pm: Why does that Cocktail style look familiar :laugh2:

Yes hankin tabletop is a good design.

Good Choice
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on June 12, 2006, 01:49:01 am: Quote from: loadman on June 11, 2006, 08:44:11 pm
Why does that Cocktail style look familiar :laugh2:

Yes hankin tabletop is a good design.

Good Choice

Loadman,

Care to share in rough dimensions off your original baby? I have noticed a lot of interest from both myself and others in trying to find something to work with.

Certainly it would tie in well with you suggesting not to work off an original, but build your own from scractch.

-Alex
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: loadman on June 12, 2006, 02:06:30 am: Quote
Loadman,

Care to share in rough dimensions off your original baby? I have noticed a lot of interest from both myself and others in trying to find something to work with.

Certainly it would tie in well with you suggesting not to work off an original, but build your own from scratch.

No Problem, I wish I had built one form scratch in hindsight. My friends and family have all the tools and skills to help me. I was just too impatient at the time (4 years or so ago now)

I tell you what, if you send me/post a sketch/pic indicating what dimensions you want on it I will fill in the blanks and pass it on.. :P
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: asalza on June 26, 2006, 03:48:36 am: Does anyone know if the plans/dimensions have been released yet? Cheers
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: loadman on June 26, 2006, 08:57:14 pm: Quote
if you send me/post a sketch/pic indicating what dimensions you want on it I will fill in the blanks and pass it on..

I have the original glasstop that I am going to throw out if anyone wants it? Just a bit scratched

(http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/backwash/malahwpics/mamelcdsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on June 27, 2006, 10:12:17 pm: Loadman,

My apologies. I have been wiped out for the last week and a bit with a bout of the flu.

That sounds fantastic, I will try to put together some rough sketches, if you would still be will to provide some dimensions.

-Alex
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: loadman on June 28, 2006, 05:44:32 am: Quote from: zzsprade on June 27, 2006, 10:12:17 pm
Loadman,

My apologies. I have been wiped out for the last week and a bit with a bout of the flu.

That sounds fantastic, I will try to put together some rough sketches, if you would still be will to provide some dimensions.

-Alex

I don't know what you are apologising for..:-)

More than happy to do it, I just can't draw to save myself hence my request... I will PM you my e-mail address for you to send the sketches to

I will start a new thread with the sketches with dimensions added rather than cling on to marcus.'s thread here.
Title: Re: Hankin Tabletop project - Australia
Post by: zzsprade on June 28, 2006, 07:45:27 am: loadman sounds good. Good thinking!

I'll get to learn a few things along the way trying to knock them up.... may help out a few people.

-Alex