Build Your Own Arcade Controls Forum
Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: Tahnok on August 25, 2004, 06:12:33 pm
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As I mentioned in this thread http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=23711 , I have been working on a concept for a convertible cabinet. The cabinet could change from a normal 'stand up' to a 'sit down driving'.
All that would need to be done to a standard cab is build the racing seat, put the pedals further into the lower part of the cab, position the steering wheel on the end of the CP and make it so the monitor can tilt to level.
The plans below illustrate the concept:
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Ha, ha, I love the copyright notices (BTW, copyright is not the same as a patent)
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Very nice.
The tilting monitor thing might be more of a pain than I'd want to deal with, plus the storing of the seat section. I'll need to rethink my cab design this weekend.
But there is a game coming out in November that I'm excited about. Playing it in a sit down cab would be perfect.
http://www.flatoutgame.com/
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Ha, ha, I love the copyright notices (BTW, copyright is not the same as a patent)
Yes, but patents cost, copyrights do not. Copyright is enough protection for something like this. Also copyright is automatic, everything you create is copyrighted. I only put the notices because I wanted to make it clear that I did not want anybody redistributing these images.
Very nice.
The tilting monitor thing might be more of a pain than I'd want to deal with, plus the storing of the seat section.
Not as hard as you may think. In the image is an Apex 24" TV. The entire TV is fastened to a shelf (just like any other cab). Then the entire shelf is hinged in the front. This way all you would need is some wood blocks for when the TV is tilted back and a pin that can be pulled in and out for locking the TV flat.
As for storing the seat section, that completely depends on how you design your seat. The seat I drew was just a rough estimate. No matter how you build the seat though it will still be smaller than another dedicated driving cab.
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OMG! I was thinking about this exact concept just last week! The only difference in my concept was that the monitor would lower (wasn't sure exactly how to do that) to make is more car like. I was even going to call it "Transformame" or something equally silly!
I was also thinking that the steering wheel would be buried in the cab until you pulled it out so it would go from a regular with a "standard" CP to the racing style. please keep me posted on progress and I will do the same. I am just finishing my first cab after a year of slow progress, so I am getting ready for #2.
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Dude, if you had only posted it and copyrighted it, we'd all be inclined to believe you, but now.... ;)
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The tilting monitor thing might be more of a pain than I'd want to deal with
Why not use a large computer monitor instead of a TV? The tilting could be accomplished with the built in base.
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Dude, if you had only posted it and copyrighted it, we'd all be inclined to believe you, but now.... ;)
SIT-DOWN CABINET WHERE THE TOP PART LOWERS! Copyright 2004 by Fogman. All Rights Reserved. No parties may copy this idea without the express written consent of me and I'm not going to give it to you so don't bother asking. Phew...hopefully no one had time to go out and build one of these before my disclaimer was done.
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Geez, when people keep putting in these copyright notices we cannot use the "Reply with quote" button anymore 8)
Maybe you could use a mirror and just tilt that instead of the whole monitor? Like the Operation Wolf cabinet someone mamed a while back.
BTW I use a barstool to turn my cab into a driving cab ;)
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i always thought that this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1081900335425&skuId=6616637&productCategoryId=cat07002&type=product) would make a neat driving chair.
(http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6616/6616637_ra.jpg)
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Hmmm, why even stop with just one transformation?
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PaigeOliver, where's your copyright notice? 'Cuz god knows, someone's gonna wanna copy your lame line art drawing and redistribute it all over the internet as their own work. Gotta stop that from happening, dontcha know?
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<lmao>
Yea, I didn't see that one coming... ;D
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Hmmm, why even stop with just one transformation?
Who said I was? I am working on plans for a few other things.
I've started my MAME cab website(still being worked on!). Included is an animation of the above idea, it helps illustrate how simple it could be.
www.geocities.com/arcadeMSME
please keep me posted on progress and I will do the same.
Sorry, but I don't plan on building this for a while. Unless I can find an old cab to strip parts off of, it would be just too expensive.
BTW, about the copyright. I have seen too many people get burned and have come far too close myself. I dislike cheesy disclaimers just as much as everybody else, but there are too many stupid people on the internet. Or I could just keep my ideas to myself and the no one would benefit.
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PaigeOliver, where's your copyright notice? 'Cuz god knows, someone's gonna wanna copy your lame line art drawing and redistribute it all over the internet as their own work. Gotta stop that from happening, dontcha know?
I can't copyright mine because I just cut and paste pieces of the other one around until it became a robot. You can actually rearrange the pieces of his cab into that robot.
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PaigeOliver, where's your copyright notice? 'Cuz god knows, someone's gonna wanna copy your lame line art drawing and redistribute it all over the internet as their own work. Gotta stop that from happening, dontcha know?
I can't copyright mine because I just cut and paste pieces of the other one around until it became a robot. You can actually rearrange the pieces of his cab into that robot.
Aha!! I knew it! Copyright infringement!! You'll be getting a call from my lawyer!
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Sure, tell him to call Richard Beninya at 555-MAME
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BTW, about the copyright. I have seen too many people get burned and have come far too close myself. I dislike cheesy disclaimers just as much as everybody else, but there are too many stupid people on the internet. Or I could just keep my ideas to myself and the no one would benefit.
Oh, my bad....I forgot to tell you that while posting, I would be inserting a dollop of SarcasmTM.
What will they think of next ::) I bet we start to see "Warning: contents hot!" on coffee cups from McDonalds or something!
Oh, and I'll be hiring Johnny Cochrane to defend me in case I'm sued for poking fun at people. "If he's full of $#!7, you MUST aquit!". And trust me, I'm aquittable in SPADES! :P
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What will they think of next ::) I bet we start to see "Warning: contents hot!" on coffee cups from McDonalds or something!
Yes, it's sad, but that is the world we live in. People want something for nothing, and the rest of us have to try to protect ourselves. Maybe it is a bit much for something like this, but it can never hurt.
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I totally understand your desire to cover your ^#@! and attach copyright notices to your work. The world is indeed full of people who are looking to capitalize on anything and everything. I can appreciate the hard work you put into designing something, and you don't want others to take credit for it.
But, I like to think that the spirit behind the things that go on here at BYOAC is cooperation and sharing. I can't believe the great stuff people have made available for other mamers. Yeah, there is the possibility that it will be stolen and abused (see the artwork forum) but I believe that is the exception rather than the rule.
I'm ok with what you are doing, but if it goes to the next step I have problems with it. Take SuperCade, for example. Yeah, it's a cool design, but I think it should be removed from the hall of fame because of the statements the author makes. Copyrighting the plans is ok, but to talk about bringing in his lawyer... I wonder how many LEGAL roms he has purchased??
If you follow the artwork forum you can see that the ramifications of legal action against each other is only going to bring in the big companys who actually own the rights to all the games, artwork, etc. and make what we do much more difficult.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I support what you are doing here.
Oh yeah, I'm suing everybody for everything, and the settlement will be everything. I want it all!!!
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btw - hes not the first to consider that design. Im sure if i dig thru my piles of drawings and designs... i could find an identical drawing - but made over 5yrs ago. if needed, i could have the thing carbon dated to proove it in court : P
(i think theres even a few idea posts in the message board archives about a simular design)
Everything in life is a copy of something you have seen, felt, heard...ect. We all steal from each other - period. Without the help of others before us - we wouldnt have achieved what we have today - nor would we be so much further in advancements. All this legal patent / copyright crap is stupid IMOP.
Any company with enough cash will steal any design and never get touched in courts over it. Youd never be able to afford the legal costs... and even if you got lawyers that helped... they would take 90% of the cash away from you anyways.
While I was one of the first people to publically announce a rotating control panel design... that dosnt mean that others hadnt thought about it before me. Nor does it mean that I would go arround saying "Im gona sue you if you make a cabnet like mine". That would be a$$inign.
Like said - this place is about sharing. If you dont like to share - then go away... as people are sharing with you by popping thier ideas up here, as well as helpfull advice, and by having this wonderfull FREE website up for you to visit.
If you do not want people to copy you... keep your ideas to yourself.
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I initially thought the copyright notices were meant as a joke (seeing how it's useless since it doesn't protect the idea itself but just that specific drawing from being copied)
The best recognition you can get here on BYOAC is if people copy your idea ::)
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But, I like to think that the spirit behind the things that go on here at BYOAC is cooperation and sharing. I can't believe the great stuff people have made available for other mamers. Yeah, there is the possibility that it will be stolen and abused (see the artwork forum) but I believe that is the exception rather than the rule.
Thats funny coming from someone who will not post his projects on BYOAC...
This is EXACTLY the reason I don't announce my projects or submit them to the examples page.
Ehm ... that short quote is not completely fair. He doesn't post his projects because he doesn't like discussions about them (or something, couldn't make out what the reason exactly is) It's not because he doesn't like his ideas copied. Before I read the original post I thought he didn't post his projects because of the possibility of "theft". :edit: (since you removed your post I'll just agree here) I don't agree with people not sharing their plans though. Apply the "if everyone did that" principle on your actions and see what you think then.
However I do agree with him you should share as much as you can here it's only fair, this whole lets copyright our plans thing is really lame. If everyone did this no one would ever get a cabinet built.
Actually copyrighting your plans is fine. For some reason it gives me a bad feeling when I see that, but it doesn't restrict the use (other than that you cannot make or sell copies of the plan) I'm no lawyer, but I think it doesn't even restrict people from commercially building cabs along those plans.
It's bordering on silly if you claim copyright on a sketch though.
It is also surprising to see that so many people seem concerned about their rights while on the other hand they "steal" so many things themselves.
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I guess I should have posted more of the quote but the point is everyone should try to share as much with each other as they can.
Personally I wish he would post his projects I would for one love to see them.
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I don't blame tahnok100 for wanting to copyright his ideas.
I bought what turned out to be a copy of Spystyle's excellent work off some guy on ebay earlier this year.
>:(
While it was probably one of the best primers a newbie could get, I'll just bet Spystyle wasn't asked.
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I don't blame tahnok100 for wanting to copyright his ideas.
That's just it. You can't copyright ideas. He only has copyright on that specific sketch.
BTW Spystyle actually has copyright on his tutorial, so ...
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I don't blame tahnok100 for wanting to copyright his ideas.
That's just it. You can't copyright ideas. He only has copyright on that specific sketch.
BTW Spystyle actually has copyright on his tutorial, so ...
I modified the design of the cabinet I'm working on to have the bottom part pull out from the cab. so the only part you need to store is the actual seat. which can be pinned in after the base is pulled out.
For your visual reference I edited the sketch to show what I had in mind. I was going to post the animated gif and then realized I didn't have permission to do so.
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Seriously though, how can anyone on what is basically an emulation board claim to have much any respect for copyright? Sure, I am sure there is that one guy out there who owns the boards for every rom he has, and 3 more guys who don't emulate anything but are just on this board for the JAMMA aspect, but the other 9000 registered members, well, they don't have a leg to stand on. ;D
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Like I said, I could have not posted this whole thing and then no one would benefit. I chose to help out the community a bit though and post my ideas and plans. I put the copyright notice on there to try and prevent people like the ones marsmarvin mentioned, people wanting to make a quick buck off someone else
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No personal slight meant here dude, but your idea isn't really new and your "plans" aren't particularly detailed. Nobody's gonne be reposting them and "making a buck" offa them in any way.
There are alot more important things to worry about in this world than someone reposting your simple profile line drawing.
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No personal slight meant here dude, but your idea isn't really new and your "plans" aren't particularly detailed. Nobody's gonne be reposting them and "making a buck" offa them in any way.
There are alot more important things to worry about in this world than someone reposting your simple profile line drawing.
These are just the rough drawings. I have worked on much more detailed ones since that I may post later. Further more, it is possible that someone would try to include the scetch as part of a larger package on Ebay. Again, why is everybody making such a big deal over this? Why wouldn't I put a copyright notice on it?
I am beginning to think that posting this was a big mistake. Someone comes on sharing an idea and this is what happens. Everybody starts complaining about a simple copyright notice.
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I am beginning to think that posting this was a big mistake. Someone comes on sharing an idea and this is what happens. Everybody starts complaining about a simple copyright notice.
Nah, I think people are just "giving you a hard time". I think people just found it a little funny/ironic that a simple stick drawing would have a copyright on it. Don't read too much into it. ;)