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Title: Console games on a cab?
Post by: Bear Hugger on June 23, 2004, 01:12:36 am
Im building my cab next month and want to know what you all think of using console games alongside MAME on a cab? Does it kill the illusion of the whole 'Arcade' to you or your friends, ruins the atmosphere? Whats your take with having non-arcade games
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Darkstalker on June 23, 2004, 01:34:51 am
I think you should do what you want to do in this regard...It's your cab afterall...
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: RayB on June 23, 2004, 02:04:04 am
Depends on the kind of console you're talking about. If it's a modern one that requires an analog gamepad, I'd say don't bother. But if you're talking Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis, then go for it. I used to have a SNES hooked up in a cab and I LOVED it. Playing with a joy and real arcade buttons was way better for  *most* games.

Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: danny_galaga on June 23, 2004, 07:13:57 am
i personally dont think so. but then its up to the individual. some people have internet and everything on their cab and the full however many thousand games. others just have the one game to recreate a particular machine. im in between but closer to the one game philosphy. i have maybe 160 games but thats all. no internet, no word or excel. just any arcade game that suits a cocktail...and i draw the line at 1991. except one game that is '92
yeah, so to me my machine isnt an exact copy of a particular machine, rather it is an exacting machine that still recreates the feel of a dedicated machine.
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: abrannan on June 23, 2004, 08:08:44 am
i personally dont think so. but then its up to the individual. some people have internet and everything on their cab and the full however many thousand games. others just have the one game to recreate a particular machine. im in between but closer to the one game philosphy. i have maybe 160 games but thats all. no internet, no word or excel. just any arcade game that suits a cocktail...
yeah, so to me my machine isnt an exact copy of a particular machine, rather it is an exacting machine that still recreates the feel of a dedicated machine.

You aren't running Excel on your cab?  Then what's the point of building one?  I put Excel in mine and I have all of my friends over for some mad spreadsheet action!  I highly recommend "Alan Greenspan's Extreme Checkbook Balancer: Underground" if you want to throw down some sick Debits and Credits, yo.


*ahem*

I'm not sure if this poll is referring to having an actual console in your cab, or just running console emulators side by side with MAME.  Either way, I say Yea.  The cab I have in progress now will be a Dreamcast Cabinet, and I'm pulling things together to add some of the classic NES and SNES games to my MAME system.  
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: wboy on June 23, 2004, 09:42:56 am
Well, without excel, how else would you play Excel's flightsim on your arcade cabinet?  ???

EasterEgg in Excel 97:  Press F5, then type x:97 L:97 then press enter, followed by tab. hold down ctrl and shift, then click the graphs button on the toolbar (you might have to enable this beforehand).  press Escape a few times to exit.

taken from http://www.cheatplanet.com/pccheats/microsoft_excel_97.htm (http://www.cheatplanet.com/pccheats/microsoft_excel_97.htm), don't blame me if its slightly wrong.  I tested it ages ago and it worked for me!  (not a an arcade cabinet mind you)

first person to config their IPAC to make it possible to enter the easter egg wins my respect!  and thats about all.

Alternatively, anyone up for writing a frontend that supports this?  Minwah?

 ;)
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Bear Hugger on June 23, 2004, 10:30:55 pm
i personally dont think so. but then its up to the individual. some people have internet and everything on their cab and the full however many thousand games. others just have the one game to recreate a particular machine. im in between but closer to the one game philosphy. i have maybe 160 games but thats all. no internet, no word or excel. just any arcade game that suits a cocktail...
yeah, so to me my machine isnt an exact copy of a particular machine, rather it is an exacting machine that still recreates the feel of a dedicated machine.

I'm not sure if this poll is referring to having an actual console in your cab, or just running console emulators side by side with MAME.  Either way, I say Yea.  The cab I have in progress now will be a Dreamcast Cabinet, and I'm pulling things together to add some of the classic NES and SNES games to my MAME system.  

Its about running emulators of consoles with MAME, I dunno, its the whole dynamic of arcade vs. console. Arcade games are designed for short 3 minute games mostly, and console games are for hours upon hours of a single adventure. That and getting used to arcade controls for consoles, I think it would kind of ruin the atmosphere of a multigame coin-op
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: mcdo15 on June 23, 2004, 11:07:09 pm
the consoles that i'm installing are ps2/dc/saturn

dc/saturn have some of the sickest fightering games...mainily dc mavel vs capcom 2 (my theme)

i think it's ok...some games could work as an arcade but not all of them....
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Donger on June 24, 2004, 01:19:22 am
Many console games are full-speed perfect arcade ports, and are well suited for cabinets.  NFL Blitz, NBA on NBC, Tekken, the SF games, Soulcalibur, and MK come to mind.

Plus, it's easy to obtain legal copies of the games!  ;D
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Maumauproductions on June 24, 2004, 09:31:58 am
I'd say go for it. I think until I Get a decent PC controller Ill just shove a dual PSX joy on it and play Guilty gear and Street Fighter Alpha in my cab with conventional hookups to a TV its a lot easier but not as rewarding. its a Good temp. solution IMHO but im new.
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: kujina on June 24, 2004, 07:05:26 pm
Your cab could do both and still look and feel like a proper arcade machine. Have a draw on the cab where you can put your console and then close it away in the cab.
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: DanteBK on June 25, 2004, 12:02:51 am
I think a lot of Super Nintendo games would play well on a cab. I'm specifically thinking of some old favorites that don't exist/don't work in MAME: Super Double Dragon, Ranma 1/2 Super Hard Battle, TMNT Turtles in Time -- I will probably put SNES on my cab, and maybe NES and Genesis
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: boesiii on June 25, 2004, 12:52:49 pm
I want the ability to play as many games as possible, so I when I finally build my cabinet. It will have mame, nes, snes, sega and alot more.  I am going to have two hidden ports so that I can hook up a hacked controller (nes or sega) to my ipac.
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Lilwolf on June 25, 2004, 01:12:53 pm
Dreamcasts are just so darn cheap

and the games are so darn good

And its so darn easy to hook to an arcade monitor.

GREAT for people who like fighters!

but for all other consoles... go through emulation.  That way there isn't any new hardware.

But ps2/xbox/gc are also great canditates for cabs using TVs...

As for the analog controller startement above.  

Don't they all have a digital pad also on each of them?  And don't they have good arcade style games that use the digital pads?

Then you can have a real pad in the coin box... open it up and pull it out when you need the analog.
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Mr. Dude on June 25, 2004, 01:24:26 pm
I think it's great to add some console gaming to the line up.  On my machine I've got NES, SNES, GENS, TG-16 and N64.  
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: danny_galaga on June 26, 2004, 05:13:45 am

You aren't running Excel on your cab?  Then what's the point of building one?  I put Excel in mine and I have all of my friends over for some mad spreadsheet action!  I highly recommend "Alan Greenspan's Extreme Checkbook Balancer: Underground" if you want to throw down some sick Debits and Credits, yo.


ive got notepad  :-[ . and i discovered i have minesweep on there too. now if i could configure it into two player...
i only play greenspan games on my federal economatic console emulator. would feel just plain silly playing 'reserve bank panic' on an arcade machine. really...
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: Minwah on June 26, 2004, 10:39:25 am
Well, without excel, how else would you play Excel's flightsim on your arcade cabinet?  ???

EasterEgg in Excel 97:  Press F5, then type x:97 L:97 then press enter, followed by tab. hold down ctrl and shift, then click the graphs button on the toolbar (you might have to enable this beforehand).  press Escape a few times to exit.

taken from http://www.cheatplanet.com/pccheats/microsoft_excel_97.htm (http://www.cheatplanet.com/pccheats/microsoft_excel_97.htm), don't blame me if its slightly wrong.  I tested it ages ago and it worked for me!  (not a an arcade cabinet mind you)

first person to config their IPAC to make it possible to enter the easter egg wins my respect!  and thats about all.

Alternatively, anyone up for writing a frontend that supports this?  Minwah?

 ;)

Heh, also could play that clever version of PacMan in Excel...

I think DC's are a good idea in cabs, since there are so many arcade perfect (or better) ports of decent digital-control based games.  I will also eventually be running Mega Drive & SNES, but only for a handful of my old faves :)
Title: Re:Console games on a cab?
Post by: the3eyedblindman on June 28, 2004, 10:21:33 pm
The only console i would even think about putting in a cab with mame is dreamcast. Full speed arcade games like blitz, with great graphics, and easily hackable controler, and its very cheap, i am probably going to put one in my cab, anything else i would just use an emulator.