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Title: Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 16, 2004, 12:29:25 am
Just received my Capcom vs SNK 2 in the mail today that I won on EBay.  I was dissapointed, however, when I opened it and discovered that it was a burned copy.  Here is the item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8109587606&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6

Is it just me, or do those pictures not display a burned CD.  I don't see anywhere noted that it was a burned copy.  I haven't received my Dreamcast yet, so I don't know if it works or not.  I guess I shouldn't have bid on something from a seller with 1 feedback, but guess it's my loss.  Oh well, it's only $7.00, but it's still lame.  I will try to get my money back, but it is quite obvious they were trying to make it seem legit, so I'm not sure I will hear from him.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: REBIRTH on June 16, 2004, 12:31:32 am
yeah - I try to stay away from a seller with less than 20 or so feedbacks.  This guy has 1 feedback from someone he bought from, you are his first "sell".
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 16, 2004, 12:36:23 am
yeah - I try to stay away from a seller with less than 20 or so feedbacks.  This guy has 1 feedback from someone he bought from, you are his first "sell".

Yea, first "sucker" is probably more like it.  :)  He was selling a few other games at the same time (SF3: 3rd Strike, Power Stone, and 1 other).  Luckily I was outbid on those ones.  I'm curious to see what the winners of those items have to say, as they went for considerably more than $3.99.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Hooch on June 16, 2004, 12:36:43 am
I would report this person to ebay.  They normally frown on this type of activity (I.E. selling 'backup' software).  By what I've seen Yahoo allows it to happen, but Ebay does not.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: android on June 16, 2004, 12:54:44 am
Never bid on an auction for software/music that includes a "no cd nor instruction booklet" disclaimer.

-- Android
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 16, 2004, 01:04:57 am
Never bid on an auction for software/music that includes a "no cd nor instruction booklet" disclaimer.

-- Android

That should have been a clue, though I've lucked out to this point on other auctions with such a disclaimer.  Guess I'm too trusting.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Chemixtry on June 16, 2004, 01:20:27 am
I had the same happen with a Dreamcast game I bought off ebay. Now I wont buy a game unless they have an actual photo of the game/cd. The other thing I hate is I see people that has a listing saying "Xbox cheap, no reserve" Your paying for information on how to supposdly get cheap xboxes. You can see in the comment section that people think they are bidding on an actual xbox.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: SirPeale on June 16, 2004, 07:58:29 am
I would definitely report this to eBay.  It goes against their TOS.

The image may be one that eBay themselves provide.  If it's a title in their database, you sometimes have the option (on games) of using a stock image.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Witchboard on June 16, 2004, 08:30:01 am
I guess you haven't left feedback yet either, seeing as how he has 1 feedback and it's positive.  Post up the negative feedback AND contact eBay.  Maybe your feedback will keep others from getting ripped off.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Landstander on June 16, 2004, 11:08:05 am
I guess you haven't left feedback yet either, seeing as how he has 1 feedback and it's positive.  Post up the negative feedback AND contact eBay.  Maybe your feedback will keep others from getting ripped off.

I would wait until 89 days after the auction is over to file your negative feedback. That way he won't have much of a chance to retaliate against you for the negative. I would also watch his user ID for any future auctions and if he posts any more software I would warn other bidders about what happened with your auction.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: DaveMMR on June 16, 2004, 11:24:34 am
Or you can hope he doesn't retaliate with neg. feed and leave a negative now to help others who may be bidding.   Besides if enough people compain he won't be a registered user for long anyhow.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: RayB on June 16, 2004, 11:34:33 am
Did he give you feedback yet?

Contact Ebay and have him shut down for selling counterfeit software.

Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 16, 2004, 11:37:35 am
The reason I was delaying action other than email communication (haven't heard back yet) was hoping that  threatening further action would get my money back.  If I jump right in, I thought that might discourage him from doing so.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 16, 2004, 11:40:08 am
I noticed he has since received 1 other "positive feedback" from someone that bought a PS2 Virtua Fighter 4.  Don't know if it's a regular practice of his to sell backups, or if I just got "lucky".  He has not as of yet left feedback.  He's probably waiting to see if I leave negative to be able to return the favor.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Mr. Dude on June 16, 2004, 02:59:27 pm
That's crappy man!  Nowhere in his description does it say that it was a backup.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: iwillfearnoevil on June 16, 2004, 03:09:58 pm
you've got tons of positive feedback 700+ and a couple of negatives. i'd leave a negative asap and write to ebay. at worst, your feedback percent may go down 1 tenth of a percent. they will probably warn him from selling burned copies. it's not legal to do so, so it really doesn't matter if it's in his description. i'd probably stop short of contesting any paypal charges if you paid that way just because of all the bad stuff that paypal does and you don't want a blemish there. that's just my opinion and good luck whatever you do.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Witchboard on June 16, 2004, 04:03:40 pm
Not to mention you can respond to his negative feedback and explain.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: RayB on June 16, 2004, 09:44:03 pm
I didn't know you wanted a refund. You should negotiate a refund first. Perhaps even make it a point to mention that you haven't let feedback yet...
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Hamselv on June 17, 2004, 05:15:18 am
He says in the auction that the game is in "mint condition". I wouldn't call a burned copy (presumable on a really cheap, no-name CDR as well) anything like mint condition!

I say burn him!  >:(  Or at least call him names...
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: Stingray on June 17, 2004, 09:23:47 am
I agree with those who said report him to ebay. Selling pirated software is illegal and against ebay's rules.

-S
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: MonitorGuru on June 17, 2004, 09:34:46 am
I guess you haven't left feedback yet either, seeing as how he has 1 feedback and it's positive.  Post up the negative feedback AND contact eBay.  Maybe your feedback will keep others from getting ripped off.

I would wait until 89 days after the auction is over to file your negative feedback. That way he won't have much of a chance to retaliate against you for the negative. I would also watch his user ID for any future auctions and if he posts any more software I would warn other bidders about what happened with your auction.

89 days means NOTHING regarding feedback.

ebay's policies are to *start* removing auctions once they've hit 90 days. This does not mean however that an auction will be removed exactly 90 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds from the time it ended.  It does mean that it goes in a queue to be removed the next time eBay runs code to remove auctions.

I have personally seen auctions out there as long as 120 days.  Typical is 95 through 110 days.  It depends on the category and item number.  If you notice item numbers start with different digits now. This depends on the category they're listed in, and on which server they're stored on.  Therefore 2 listings the same night may be removed on totally different days down the road.

You CANNOT depend on the 90 day rule.  You can check similar item numbers in yours or others feedbacks to see when the get unlinked and get a closer idea when one may be deleted, but again, it's a crap shoot, you cannot exactly guess.


Also, waiting 90 days to leave negative only allows the seller to continue their ways and scam numerous other people and gives you a lot less pull with ebay (not that you have much anyway, but that's another gripe for another time) since you don't have something documented against their account.

File a square trade report, and if you paid by pay pal, IMMEDIATELY file a report with them. (before 30 days is up) and leave negative feedback now and contact ebay Fraud and file a report with them.
Title: Re:Bad EBayer
Post by: CGRemakes on June 21, 2004, 07:01:45 pm
Notice he is no longer a registered EBay user, so I guess either others must have complained, or my report did some good.   ???