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Title: what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: walls83 on June 05, 2004, 05:51:24 pm
Does anybody have a list of MAME games that use duel Joysticks.?  It cant be very big.  Thanks
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: Onji on June 05, 2004, 06:24:09 pm
Robotron for one.
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: Thenasty on June 05, 2004, 06:32:03 pm
Robotron
Space Dungeon
Crazy Climber
Crazy Climber 2
Fire Trap
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: paigeoliver on June 05, 2004, 06:35:14 pm
There are a zillion lists of this stuff, so I am not going to recap the whole thing.

I AM going to note one important thing.

Karate Champ uses dual 4-way joysticks (the player vs. player version needs 4 of them altogether). All the other dualjoy games (except Assault) use 8-ways (or 2-ways).

Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: Muttley on June 05, 2004, 06:44:41 pm
Total Carnage (the cab I've got)  :)

In fact it's a 2-player simultaneous dual-stick game:

(http://www.muttleyville.org/images/cabbage/29-May-2004/DSC00015.JPG)

Muttley
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: Rocky on June 05, 2004, 11:41:09 pm
A personal favorite of mine is:

Cloak & Dagger
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: quarterstringer on June 06, 2004, 04:14:09 am
This great site using sortinfo (http://www.jstookey.com/arcade/sortinfo/) gives these 34 games using Dual 8-ways.

Angel Kids (Japan) (angelkds)
Apocaljpse Now (aponow)
Bandido (bandido)
Black Widow (bwidow)
Cloak & Dagger (French) (cloakfr)
Complex X (complexx)
Crazy Climber (Japan) (cclimbrj)
Crazy Climber 2 (Japan) (cclimbr2)
Dribbling (dribling)
Front Line (frontlin)
Indoor Soccer (idsoccer)
Inferno (inferno)
Joyful Road (Japan) (joyfulr)
Krull (krull)
Libble Rabble (liblrabl)
Lost Tomb (easy) (losttomb)
Mars (mars)
Minefield (minefld)
Rescue Raider (rescraid)
Robotron (Solid Blue label) (robotron)
Rock Climber (rockclim)
Screw Loose (prototype) (screwloo)
Smash T.V. (rev 4.00) (smashtv4)
Space Dungeon (sdungeon)
Space Position (Japan) (spcpostn)
Splat! (splat)
Star Guards (stargrds)
Stompin' (stompin)
The Return of Ishtar (roishtar)
The Tin Star (tinstar)
Total Carnage (prototype, rev 1.0 01/25/92) (totcarnp)
Ultra Tank (ultratnk)
Water Match (wmatch)
Wild Western (set 1) (wwestern)

Plus 2 more using Dual 4 ways

Fire Trap (Japan bootleg) (firetpbl)
Karate Champ (US VS version) (kchampvs)
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: JustMichael on June 06, 2004, 07:00:52 am
And don't forget the games that used two 2-way joysticks...   ;)
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: GGKoul on June 06, 2004, 10:25:14 am
Here's a post that talks about dual 4 way and dual 8 way games.

http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=16325

-GGKoul
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: jerryjanis on June 06, 2004, 10:28:53 am
Star Guards is a 3-player simultaneous dual-joystick game.
Title: Re:what games use duel joysticks i.e. Karate Champ?
Post by: spidermonkey on June 06, 2004, 05:03:04 pm
Sortinfo can be useful but isn't entirely accurate. For instance, it has Front Line,Tin Star and Wild Western as dual joystick games. All three of them use one 8-way stick along with an 8-way mechanical rotary dial. The rotary dial did in fact use four microswitches like an 8-way stick but thats about the only thing they have in common with an 8-way joystick. The only reason sortinfo has them included in the list is because MAME itself categorizes them as dual joystick games. MAME pretty much had to do this do to the fact that the rotary dial is a microswitched based control so technically it "can" be replaced with an 8-way but in reality it is damn near impossible to play these games with two 8-ways. #1 reason.. the rotary dial also had an integrated pushdown fire button. #2 the rotary dial has one (sometimes two if pointed diagonally) microswitches pressed at all times so if you were to use a joystick you would have to hold the stick in whatever direction and "roll" the stick  clockwise/counterclockwise to get it to act like a rotary dial. This leaves you with no hands or fingers left to pust down the fire button AND (in Frontline only) a second grenade button. Unless of course your an octopuss. ::) . Because of the fact that these rotary dials always have at least one microswitch engaged it makes the controllers kind of tricky to set up in MAME. When I put one in my first cab I had to install a switch between the ground so that I could actually shut off all microswitches and then toggle it on and off as I was setting it up in the MAME config menu. Thankfully it works like a charm and I'm finally able to play Front Line my favorite game. :)  Alright I'm kinda getting off topic but the moral of the story is take sortinfo for what it is which is a VERY general and somewhat inaccurate sorting tool.  
Oh and you can add the game "Screwloose" to the small list of dual 4-way joystick games.