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Title: SF3?
Post by: DeathMonk on June 04, 2004, 11:13:22 am
It seems that Street Fighter III, etc. (ie CPS3) has been quietly added to MAME as of v.82.  It's not working (not at all from what I could tell), but It's good news.

Do the MAME dev's want to keep this on the DL or something..  I haven't heard any talk about it.
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: NickS on June 04, 2004, 11:41:05 am
It seems that Street Fighter III, etc. (ie CPS3) has been quietly added to MAME as of v.82.  It's not working (not at all from what I could tell), but It's good news.

Do the MAME dev's want to keep this on the DL or something..  I haven't heard any talk about it.
See this link
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php? (http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?)
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 04, 2004, 11:52:02 am
The link is invalid.  Regardless, if you'd actually read the
"what's new" you'd realize they were just added for documentation purposes.  Atm no chance of them ever working.  
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Mr. Dude on June 04, 2004, 12:58:27 pm
Now with a decent Dreamcast emulator running you'll be able to play all of the cps-3 games with that though.
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: DeathMonk on June 07, 2004, 11:30:02 am
The link is invalid.  Regardless, if you'd actually read the
"what's new" you'd realize they were just added for documentation purposes.  Atm no chance of them ever working.  

Isn't that the reason any game is in there?  If it's there, it will eventually work.
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Minwah on June 07, 2004, 12:06:04 pm
Isn't that the reason any game is in there?  If it's there, it will eventually work.

No not neccessarily.  In this case (& prob others), there is very little chance of it ever working.  Take a read thru the MAME / MAMEWorld (EmuAdvice) forums and you will find the same topic there...
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Lilwolf on June 07, 2004, 12:55:20 pm
The idea for starting it was to have a place to keep track of the roms CRCs and also what information they have.

The trouble is the encryption.  Nobody is really working on it.  It will probably require a trojan added like CPS2s.. but take note that the cps3 boards die just looking at them... So not to many people are really interested in taking a chance on their boards.

I'm guessing that it will be emulated some day... like this.

1) Someone gets a hold of some dead cps3 boards... And starts playing with them.

2) They figure out where the dead board stuff is happening...

3) They find a way to brute force work around it.

4) Then they trojan it like cps2s

Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: DeathMonk on June 07, 2004, 12:58:57 pm
After reading more into it, it seems like a daunting task.  But to say that it will never be emulated in the lifetime of emulation/MAME seems a little ridiculous.
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 07, 2004, 02:15:20 pm
Let's put it this way.  It won't happen within a year.  It's unlikely it'll happen in 3.  It'll probably be 5 or more years before it is emulated.  Why?  Because of what Lilwolf said.  In 5 years or so cps3 pcbs will be realitively cheap and oweners will be more willing to have them experimented on.  ATM the average cps3 game is 250-300 bucks just for the cart, disc, and pcb.  

The past backs up this point... all of the major encrypted systems started being broken 5-7 years after the last game for said system was released.  The hardware gets cheap at that point.  The last cps3 game was made in 2001/02 I beleive.  
Title: Re:SF3?
Post by: Aceldamor on June 07, 2004, 06:10:24 pm
Let's put it this way.  It won't happen within a year.  It's unlikely it'll happen in 3.  It'll probably be 5 or more years before it is emulated.  Why?  Because of what Lilwolf said.  In 5 years or so cps3 pcbs will be realitively cheap and oweners will be more willing to have them experimented on.  ATM the average cps3 game is 250-300 bucks just for the cart, disc, and pcb.  

The past backs up this point... all of the major encrypted systems started being broken 5-7 years after the last game for said system was released.  The hardware gets cheap at that point.  The last cps3 game was made in 2001/02 I beleive.  

I guess I was lucky to get my complete kit for 100 bucks....though now that DC Emu is here, and pretty frickin' sweet for an alpha release I don't know how much longer I'll need it.