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Title: Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: brianoneill on April 27, 2004, 06:07:25 am
Hi,

I'm building a CP for vertical games only. The CP will be made from 3/4" wood.
So thats mainly vert shooters (my favorite) and some 4-way classics.

So I need to get two 8xWay and one 4xWay joysticks.

I'm not sure what sticks to get. I've read plenty of posts on the subject but am still undecided. Bearing in mind what the cp is for ( vertical shooters and classics). Can anyone recommend anything ?

BTW - I don't like the T-Stick. Have one in my SikStik panel and its way to stiff for my liking.

Ideas much appreciated :)
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: patrickl on April 27, 2004, 07:34:30 am
Apart from the T-Stick, I like the original Wico Leafs best. There is an auction for red ballhandle 4-ways going on ebay.

Did you put the T-Stick in the SlikStik panel yourself? I thought they came with Happ (Competition?) joysticks.

You can find a lot of info about joystick selection on this forum. If you use the search function you should be able to find at least 4 or 5 recent threads on this subject.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: brianoneill on April 27, 2004, 07:40:09 am
Thanks.

I got the new SlikStik single unit.
The T-Stick is the second stick on the panel.

I tried the search and have read a few posts alright but am still undecided.

I think I am leaning towards Supers for the 8-Ways and J-Stick for the 4-Way.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 27, 2004, 07:49:34 am
Thanks.

I got the new SlikStik single unit.
The T-Stick is the second stick on the panel.

I tried the search and have read a few posts alright but am still undecided.

I think I am leaning towards Supers for the 8-Ways and J-Stick for the 4-Way.
The Omni-Stik or Omni-Stik Prodigy from www.groovygamegear.com could be good choices, short throw, moderate spring pressure.

Supers for 8-ways are probably more similar to what you find in the arcades (actually ultimates in the arcades, but supers are better.).

Personally, I think the Omni-Stik (or Euro-Stick) is a better choice for 4-way games than the J-Stick.  What I've read of the J-Stick is long travel, light spring pressure, and ability to hit diagonals (occasionally).  All bad for 4-way games.  Some people swear by them, though.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Lilwolf on April 27, 2004, 08:13:53 am
If you like a loose joystick... happs ultimates are pretty loose.

Do you like corners or smooth spin?  I personally like smooth for vertical flight games myself.  If so, Happs supers are pretty nice (but a little stronger then ultimages... but not that stiff).

Next.. for 4 ways.  If money isn't an issue (and your not going with a T-Stick)  I would recommend a Happs new pacman joystick.  They play great!   But you do need the mounting plate.  But I think they are so much better then wicos 4way leaf that its worth it... the price might not though.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: hyiu on April 27, 2004, 02:04:18 pm

Personally, I think the Omni-Stik (or Euro-Stick) is a better choice for 4-way games than the J-Stick.  What I've read of the J-Stick is long travel, light spring pressure, and ability to hit diagonals (occasionally).  All bad for 4-way games.  Some people swear by them, though.

I'm planning to have a Ultimarc J-Stick as a 4 way on my CP...
and I have mounted 1 of them on a joystick box in the meantime...

if you rotate the bottom template to 4 way... there is no way you can hit the diagonal....

whether its loose or tight... short or long travel... I guess that's personal preference...

I do like them a lot... (for 4 way)... and its ball top look too....

Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 27, 2004, 02:33:47 pm
I'm planning to have a Ultimarc J-Stick as a 4 way on my CP...
and I have mounted 1 of them on a joystick box in the meantime...
if you rotate the bottom template to 4 way... there is no way you can hit the diagonal....
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I've read before that you could, but probably the arms of the microswitches were not adjusted properly.
whether its loose or tight... short or long travel... I guess that's personal preference...
I do like them a lot... (for 4 way)... and its ball top look too....
Fair enough.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Apollo on April 27, 2004, 03:54:05 pm
For what you say you want to play I would go for a WICO 8 way leaf stick and a MsPac/Galag reunion 4 way from Happ.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: brianoneill on April 27, 2004, 05:00:32 pm
thanks for all the suggestions.

I'm going to go for Supers for the 8-Way and the Ms.Pacman Galaga for the 4-Way :)
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: patrickl on April 27, 2004, 05:35:23 pm
I have a MsPac/Galaga repro stick, but it's kinda short and a Wico 4-way leaf feels better to me.

For the MsPac/Galaga repro you'll probably need the mounting plate (which makes it expensive) and it takes some work with a router to mount it (nicely) in a wooden panel. The Wico 4 way can be mounted just like any other stick.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Apollo on April 27, 2004, 05:39:02 pm
Noooooooo not the Super!
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: brianoneill on April 28, 2004, 04:40:30 am
Noooooooo not the Super!

Not the super? Why not ?
Competition then ?
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Apollo on April 28, 2004, 05:07:40 am
If you are building for vertical shooters you HAVE to get WICO 8 ways plus MsPac/Galag 4 way from Happs. If you don't get the WICO's get comps.
You will LOVE the WICO 8 ways for vertical shooters they are the only way to go. And as for the 4 way I love my MsPac/Galag 4 way and would never use anything else.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: brianoneill on April 28, 2004, 05:28:14 am
If you are building for vertical shooters you HAVE to get WICO 8 ways plus MsPac/Galag 4 way from Happs. If you don't get the WICO's get comps.
You will LOVE the WICO 8 ways for vertical shooters they are the only way to go. And as for the 4 way I love my MsPac/Galag 4 way and would never use anything else.


Cheers for the reply.
It really is a shooter panel. So you reckon the Wico's.
These are leaf switch, right? Anything extra in terms of wiring required ?
Also, where can they be bought ? E-Bay ?
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 28, 2004, 06:57:39 am
Cheers for the reply.
It really is a shooter panel. So you reckon the Wico's.
These are leaf switch, right? Anything extra in terms of wiring required ?
Also, where can they be bought ? E-Bay ?
Wico makes leaf, microswitch and (I think) microleaf 8-way.  I think Apollo meant the leaf ones though.  No difference in wiring, but you might have to bend the actuators a little to get them set up right.  After that you should be set.  Don't know where to get them.
Title: Re:Undecided: What Joysticks to get
Post by: Lilwolf on April 28, 2004, 08:14:55 am
Lots of people don't like supers... the are smooth to spin around.  Biggest problem in my opinion is you don't know if your in a direction... and easy to slip from back/down to back or down without noticiing.

but they are MUCH better then timepilot, gyrus, and others which originally had a smooth spin.  I like it for robotron / dual joystick games.

Noooooooo not the Super!

Not the super? Why not ?
Competition then ?