The NEW Build Your Own Arcade Controls
Main => Project Announcements => Topic started by: Thenasty on March 25, 2004, 05:25:23 pm
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Here is a write up of how to build one of this.
UPDATE: Now w/Quick Bunny Spinner TOP.
See below for the top of the Spinner Tops.
If you want one PM me and I can make one for you for
$18.00 Shipped in USA.
If you want to build your own "All in One Ultimate Coin Mech" here is the link.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,19200.0.html
Add Diagonal joystick support for Q-bert/Congo Bongo to your Happs 360 Joystcik. Here is the link for the mod.
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=25385
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Here are the tools used:
A. Torx #8
B. Torx #6
C. 6/32 Threader (use to made thread under the spinner).
D. 3/16 wrench
E. Phillip Screwdriver
F. Flathead Screwdriver
G. Long Nose Plier
H. Dremel
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this are the parts needed
A. Mouse (PS2 or Serial) I think USB are all optical.
B. "L" Bracket (dollar store)
C. This nuts are from the Video Card, Sound card, etc..
D. This nut came the Computer Case you bought before.
E. This Shrink Wrap.
Misc Items not listed:
1. Epoxy
2. Blow Dryer (for the shrink wrapper)
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Now you need to get one of this Western Digital Hard Drives. And open it up using the TORX #8 and #6. So you should have this.
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C. This nuts are from the Video Card, Sound card, etc..
Now time to cut this a little shorter to make the a shaft.
Using the Dremel (carefull with this) and cut off about 1/2 of the thread.
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After cutting 4 of this, take attach them to each other using the 3/16 wrench and put some Epoxy to make it better grip.
Now after that step, take the swrink wrapper and wrap aaround the nuts about 3 1/2 piece (not all 4 nuts) and heat it up using a blow dryer (make sure its hot).
Now use the 6/32 THREADER and thread the bottom of the SPINNER so we can screw the Letter D - This nut came the Computer Case you bought before.
And this is how it is ....
A. is the 4 nuts thats been cut and shrink wrap.
B. this is screwed in there using the 6/32 THREADER using the GOLDEN nut from the computer case.
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Now you need to cut the PLATTER disk from the Hard Drive and drill 4 holes on the sides.
using the Hack saw......
Cut the "L" to make one end shorter.
Glue the "L" into the CUT Disk Platter.
Put the Platter pieces together.
Hack the mouse and cut the housing of the mouse (hacksaw).
Glue the mouse into the "L".
Glue the WHEEL into the GOLD NUT that was screwed on the bottom of the SPINNER.
Your Done. ! ! ! !
Use more of the Silver nut that came from the Video Card, Sound card etc... to make adjustments of the SPINNER TOP.
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There are tons of write up on MOUSE hack thats why its not included.
And here is what it should look like....
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If you want one PM me and I can make one for you for
$18.00 Shipped in USA.
I'll build SERIAL or PS2.
Building one for you it all depends on availability for the parts. If get all the parts needed (Hard drive specially), I can build it for you right away.
UPDATE: A Quick Bunny Spinner TOP will be included. look below to see how it looks. Thanks
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I'm missing something here. Where is the green spinner knob from? I re-read this carefully, but I fear I'm now looking SO hard that it's blinding me to the obvious. Please point me in the right direction, as I would like the option to have a knob to match my CP, and it seems like that could be accomplished by the manufacturer of that knob.
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UPDATE: I am now building a "Quick Bunny Top" for this Spinner. This is your temporary or permannet TOP untill you decide to buy one and replace it. You might not even want to replace it once you try it.
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that green know is from SlikStik. THe other one is an Arkanoid.
It's a nice knob.
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You might want to super glue some big washers to the bottom of the spinner to act as a flywheel, otherwise the spinning action is too light.
http://www.doughansen.net/arcade/spinner.htm (http://www.doughansen.net/arcade/spinner.htm)
(http://www.doughansen.net/arcade/hdspinnersm.JPG)
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this are the parts needed
A. Mouse (PS2 or Serial) I think USB are all optical.
Just picked up a brand new USB mouse for $3cdn and it's not optical.
So if you're looking for one, they're out there.
ps. love the plans, as you can tell, I've already started on it. ;D
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someone drinks alot of chocolate milk, huh?
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How do you get the quick cap to atatch to the spinner? Do you fill the cap with something?
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someone drinks alot of chocolate milk, huh?
Hehe ;D
Good thing I got kids to help me out. I feel likea Wabbit "Silly Wabbit, tricks are for kids".
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Here is how to BYO Bunny Spinner Top.
Tools Needed
A. Quik Milk Chocolate (Drink it while making one of this)
B. Drawer Knob
C. 3/8 Nut
D. 3/8 Set Screw
E. 3/8 DIE
F. Final Piece what it looks like (Epoxy in the inside)
G. Final Finish product filled w/Bondo (not pictured)
H. Allan-Wrench
Misc not pictured.
Drill w/Drill Bits
3/8 Tap (See pic at bottom).
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First take the Drawer Knob and 3/8 die and make a 3/8 thread.
Then Take the 3/8 Nut and screw it in.
Then Take 3/8 Drill Bit and make a hole in the 3/8 Nut (see pic)
While your at it, make the hole bigger in the center of the Drawer knob until you get a size of 1/4 (this is for the shaft).
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Then take you 3/8 Tap and make a thread inside the NUT.
Once Thread is made, screw in the 3/8 Set Screw w/Allan wrench.
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Last drill a HOLE on the side of the Bunny TOP for the Alan wrench so you can screw the SET Screw when the Spinner Shaft is installed.
Glue (Epoxy) the Drawer Knob inside the Bunny Top and let dry, then fill it w/Bondo for weight.
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good writeup but man, focus your camera =p
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I recently tore up a hard drive to get the bearing in the middle, was contemplating some options
One of the write-ups I saw had some elaborate combination of rods and washers and glue and stuff to make the threaded piece that fits the knob and attaches to the spinner guts
What I found that worked REAL good was one of the finger-tighteners from a monitor cable. On the plug end youve got your 15pin d-sub connecter and 2 posts on either side that thread into the hex's on the video card. The threading was exactly right for the center of the bearing, and the plastic knob part was perfect to slide the knob over
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FYI, I tore apart a Maxtor HD and it did not work. Forget the model # at home.
This idea has got me thinking...I am working on finding parts to fit a threaded rod. It seems like that would be a little beefier and stronger. You could also use bigger bearings. Home Depot had rods in 1/4" and all other diameters.
My kids are going to be using the cab and I have to make it as kid-proof as possible.
I am also trying to find parts that are available to everyone.
Did not have much luck the other night at Home Depot...the quest continues...
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BobbyG66,
I made my spinner using parts that I got at Ace Hardware. I used a 6" long 1/4" carriage bolt. It was cheaper than the threaded rod.
(http://www.arcadecontrols.com/files/Uploads/GioCade_spinner1.jpg)
(http://www.arcadecontrols.com/files/Uploads/GioCade_spinner2.jpg)
All of the hard are in these pictures came from Ace hardware.
1 6"long 1/4" carriage bolt (head cut off).
2 flanged ball bearings.
2 bronze sleeve bearings (to reduce the 3/8" hole in the ball bearings to 1/4")
4 large fender washers for fly wheel
4 nuts to fit carriage bolt
1 Black knob with set screw.
I might have to look into the Bunny Knob, I like how quirky it is!
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Yep, that's what I was thinking.
Just got to find the bearings now. With good bearings and a good size flywheel, it should spin nicely.
Thanks guys.
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Ace has a nice selection of bearings. They had realy nice sealed ones, but they were about $18.00 each. I went with the much cheaper ones that were not sealed. They were heavily packed with grease, but a few shots of a spray silicone lubricant cleaned them up nicely. The spin eally smoth too.
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BobbyG66,
I made my spinner using parts that I got at Ace Hardware. I used a 6" long 1/4" carriage bolt. It was cheaper than the threaded rod.
All of the hard are in these pictures came from Ace hardware.
1 6"long 1/4" carriage bolt (head cut off).
2 flanged ball bearings.
2 bronze sleeve bearings (to reduce the 3/8" hole in the ball bearings to 1/4")
4 large fender washers for fly wheel
4 nuts to fit carriage bolt
1 Black knob with set screw.
I might have to look into the Bunny Knob, I like how quirky it is!
What about the encoder wheel? Did you make it or buy it?
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Just thought I would post on theNasty's spinners as I had him whip me up a couple. Plugged one into the serial port of the PC I'll be using in a planned cab (DOS 6.22 and DOS MAME v36 or v53) and played some Arkanoid, Championship Sprint and a couple of others. After adjusting the speed/sensitivity the spinners work just fine. Used the Q-Bunny tops he made and they are certainly different and will lend a unique appeal to your cab, however, they are just a tad lopsided, nothing that affects gameplay at all and not noticeable unless you just sit there and stare at your spinner while twirling it back and forth ;)
All in all, I give 'em a thumbs up and well worth the money, especially since I didn't have to spend the time scrounging for the parts and putting 'em together. Thanks again theNasty!
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The encoder was hand made.
I printed out the encoder wheel from the Cheep Spinner instructions and glued it to a sheet of thin styrene plastic using a spray adhesive. Then I cut the outer cirle using a pair of scisoors. I cut the teeth by hand using an Exacto knife. Drill a hole in the center and your done.
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Ok, long-time lurker here...great thread. I want to build my own spinner like this, I have the hard drive and some of the other hardware, my question is, where the HECK do you find a #6 and #8 Torx drivers? I've looked everywhere...Home Depot, Lowes, Radio Shack, local Hobby Stores...am I missing somewhere? Thanks for any help, and thank you all for making this place a fantastic resource.
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Radio Shack should have them Bring your HD with you when you go so you can test it right there. I bought mine in a Electronic Shop.
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The encoder was hand made.
Can you provide details of the pcb bit of you spinner (assume it is a optical detector of some sort) ?
i have an ultimarc opti-pac would it connect to it directly? or would some extra electronics be required.
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Ok, long-time lurker here...great thread. I want to build my own spinner like this, I have the hard drive and some of the other hardware, my question is, where the HECK do you find a #6 and #8 Torx drivers? I've looked everywhere...Home Depot, Lowes, Radio Shack, local Hobby Stores...am I missing somewhere? Thanks for any help, and thank you all for making this place a fantastic resource.
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Got my Torx drivers at Sears.
Oh yeah, Nannuu & I also finally got around to installing Nasty's spinner. Replaced the bunny knob with the knob that Bob Roberts sells, and it works really well. Only problem was the L bracket came unglued so it had to be re-epoxied on.
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Can anyone answer these questions?
How much space do I need under the control panel?
Can the rod above the plate be cut down or made smaller?
Thanks
Ed
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Now you need to get one of this Western Digital Hard Drives. And open it up using the TORX #8 and #6. So you should have this.
I caught this link from another thread, and I've gotta say: That is by far, the BEST use for an old hard drive that I've ever seen. And who knew that electronics were compatible with chocolate milk!? This project is so unique that you deserve a patent!!!
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Hey Nasty can you still build me a spinner? Haven't heard from you in email in a while. Please let me know. Thanks :)
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Bump for another spinner-wanter...
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Does the hard drive have to be a Western Digital? Or can any old hard drive work (I have an old Maxtor I beleive)?
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actually, it may be a seagate now that I think about it. At any rate, will any old hard drive work?
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actually, it may be a seagate now that I think about it. At any rate, will any old hard drive work?
Only WD works because the bottom part has a HOLE ready for you to put the Wheel Encoder into. The rest if the HD I opened did not have this hole. Also some newer WD, did not have this hole,
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thanks for the reply, nice to know before I go ripping apart my hard drive.
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Just ripped apart 3 old hard drives...old as in 400 MB hard drives and all 3 had the hole on one side and the threaded hole on the other.
almost done with my very own nasty spinner
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I would like a spinner....But does it work w/ the passthrough of an ipac...and can I mount it in a hole made for a 2-way joystick without and tools? ::)
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I would like a spinner....But does it work w/ the passthrough of an ipac...and can I mount it in a hole made for a 2-way joystick without and tools? ::)
If your MOUSE worked in the PASS THRU, then this will work too. It is a regular serial mouse.
Do you mean a SLOT 9going up/down or is it a regular button/joystick hole? If so, then it will work, but if its a slot up/down, might not, but you can easily make it a button/joystcik hole.
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Nasty,
Are you still offering to build these for $18?
Is it something I could plug in to my miniPac?
thanks!
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I am looking for some more HD. My vendor has stocks of Serial and PS2 mouse again but the HD is holding me back.
I will be PMing the BYOC users before I post anything for sale.
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Hey Nasty, this is a great guide! :)
Do you have any slightly angled pics of the spinner you could post?
I'd like to see how you cut the harddisk platter.
Is it cut in three pieces, first from 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock and the again from 10 o'clock to 7 o'clock? So the piece you use is the middle one?
For all persons about to gut your old harddrives:
Maxtor Bigfoot 4.1 GB and Quantum LPS (probably < 850 MB) did not have the needed hole at the bottom. I used a WD Caviar 22500, which has the needed hole.
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Hey, I'm about ready to bite, but would like to know:
1) Anyone out there give me any feedback on these spinners? I hear nothing negative, so that's a real good sign.
2) Do they work with the DOS version of Mame? (Shelled out from Win '98, not booted directly to DOS)
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Here is an update.
Since some of you had told me that the epoxy used was coming off, I have now decided to use the HARD as METAL from the Auto Store. Also, the "L" shape is now screwed in the disc platter so in can be taken out. I have found a different shaft that it can be adjusted to a certain length. So no need to cut the shaft just screw it in further or unscrew it out.
Also notice the MOUSE on the right side of the pic, this is a MS mouse and its no good, its to long. You have to get a mouse PCB that is half size like the pic shown.
Anyway, I might have another ONE available so its FIRST COME FIRST SERVE....
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Hey, I'm about ready to bite, but would like to know:
1) Anyone out there give me any feedback on these spinners?
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Anyway, I might have another ONE available so its FIRST COME FIRST SERVE....
One Nasty Spinner available?!?!?!? I want
PM sent
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about the mouse pcb pic above...
how do i know which mouse has half pcb?
also: would anybody of you know if any WD Caviar series HD (4.3 GB)
to be exect: model number 43AA and/or 14300
would have needed holes on bottom?
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For those who cannot find hard drive that has a hole in the bottom of the bearing here's an easy solution.
- Build the spinner as instructed in this thread or http://www.doughansen.net/arcade/spinner.htm
- Glue a couple large washers to the bottom of the fly wheel
- Use masking tape (or other tape) and continuously wrap the axle of light chopper until the tape is built up to be just slightly larger than the washer holes. Make sure the tape is not too wide or it may interfear with the sensor board.
- Insert the axle with tape into the washer hole.
I was able to use an old microsoft PS/2 mouse. However, I had to mount it to the wrong mouse axis (cursor moves up and down when the wheel spins, not left and right). Is there a version of Mame that can be used to switch the axis (and support multiple mice)?
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bump and PM sent
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I found that an old yoyo made a great spinner top. It is well balanced and very cheap (free since I don't use it any more).
The model I used was an old cosmic yoyo (with wooden axle). I took the yoyo apart and used a 3" 4-40 threaded rod (found this at Lowes) along with some nuts and washers. (Once it was the right height I cut the rod down to size with a dremel).
It looks like cosmis yoyos are no longer around. However, I believe this is the same model (made by playmaxx):
http://yoyoplay.com/proyoii.html
Nice thing about this is that one yoyo makes two spinner tops...
-Sharkus
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Has anyone tried a seagate scsi drive for the spinner parts? Thanks
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Hey, when you are done building your HD spinner, take the old HD platters onto circuit city or best buy and tell them that your hard drive wasn't working right so you took out the old platters and need new ones. Any one who knows anything about computers may get a little ill. :o
The only thing is that you have to do it with a straight face.
When I made my hard drive spinner (DHannsen HD Spinner) I encountered 2 different versions of Hard drive gutz. One would not work at all as the spinner berrings did not go all the way through the plate. It may take a couple of trys. Don't go out and buy anything fancy. Go to a second hand computer shop and see if they have any old 1 or 2 gig dead drives. Or raid that old 486 you have in the corner. Any one considering a HD spinner should do it. It is about as smooth as it gets. Just make sure that you really tighten down the knob. Kind of a pisser, when you are in heated batle in tempest and the spinner keeps spinning while you are holding the knob in your hand.
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ok i took apart aprox. 10 different brands of OLD(sub 2gb) HD today and the WD caviar was the ONLY one with a hole on both sides
however you don't necessarily need the hole because you could carefully mount the light cutter straight the hole just helps as a guide I used White Hot glue(its stiffer when dry) and managed to get on lined up perfectly straight.... also its worth a mention that as long as it does not wobble to much it will work
and one more note is for the L-bracket since we are stealing so much from computer hardware already a back plate for a computer case works perfect it even has a screw hole so you can mount directly to platters then glue for a STRONG hold
as far as space under the control panel... i manged to get mine down to 4" x 1.5" but without cutting it would be 4"x4".... and the hole i drilled in the Control panel was 5/8" for the shaft if you wanted to you could get the footprint down to about 2.5" x 1.5" for moutning I just used the same white hot glue works great
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Cool!
BYO/DIY spinners still live :applaud:
Made one earlier for my "hackpanel".. WD is the way to go. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=61679.msg662703#msg662703)
Have phun :cheers:
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Just thought I'd pop in and let everyone know that the Nasty Hardrive Spinner is still alive and well!!! I have made my own and will post pics asap. Also if anyone needs any USB ball mice for their harddrive spinner project let me know. The mice are perfect as they have the perfect size board as you will see when I post pics of my spinner. Also I can get them at my cost $4.00 + shipping for anyone who would like a USB ball mouse for their spinner project. Let me know as I only have about 20 mice left.
Also I have found a way to use other brands of hardrives and will post pics of how they can be adapted.
Thanks
Shawn :)