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Title: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: faxesystem on April 27, 2023, 03:29:11 pm
I'm currently looking at building a third system for CRT Emudriver. I already have a big and a medium system with a R9 380X and a low profile R7 250. This time I would like to go super small. I stumbled upon the HP EliteDesk 705 G3 Mini with an AMD Pro A10-8770E. The AMD Pro A10-8770E APU features an AMD Radeon R7 (Bristol Ridge). Also the 705 G3 Mini features a VGA out. Has anyone already some experience with this system or these AMD APUs regarding compatability with CRT Emudriver? Would be a nice little system that is much more capable than an overpriced and slow Raspberry Pi. :D

Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: buttersoft on April 27, 2023, 09:52:23 pm
It... might work? APU's are a bit of a crapshoot with crt_emudriver, built-in-VGA ports generally don't work, and proprietary systems and particularly proprietary GPU's (HP, Lenovo, Dell) often have an OEM BIOS that can't be changed and isn't recognised by crt_emudriver.

If you already own one of those systems, or have a genuine backup use for one, by all means give it a shot. But without better confirmation that this system will work with crt_emudriver, or at least that some of the proprietary parts inside it do, i think the recommendation would be to buy at your own risk.
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: Calamity on April 28, 2023, 04:57:26 am
Yes, as buttersoft said compatibility of CRT Emudriver with these older APUs is basically undefined, and with modern ones it's definitely a no-go.

Fortunately, these APUs work great on GroovyArcade (Linux), so that's the way if you want to go that route.

Check this: https://gitlab.com/groovyarcade/support/-/wikis/2-Pre-Requisites-and-Installation/2.2-Hardware-Examples
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: Substring on April 28, 2023, 10:35:29 am
I think the A10 is a problematic one, the A8 works better

I have a few of these EliteMiini (1 G1 with an A8, 1 G4 with a Ryzen 2200G), they work great on GroovyArcade.
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: faxesystem on April 28, 2023, 12:00:59 pm
Thank you all for your answers. I just ordered one for science. Never really gave Groovyarcade the attention it should get. If CRT Emudriver should not work out this will become a Groovyarcade system. Are there any plans for Kodi in Groovyarcade? I often use my CRT Emudriver systems to watch movies on my CRTs. :)
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: pixel69 on April 28, 2023, 02:37:57 pm
Hello

I have an HP ELITEDESK 705 G3 DT MINI A10-9700E 8GB 256GB R7E, Windows 10
1 VGA port and 2 display port
It works with progressive mode but not in interlaced mode
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: Toonces on April 28, 2023, 07:32:16 pm
I have a Lenovo 715q - Ryzen 5 2400GE. I couldn't get Emudriver working (probably me, not emudriver) but GroovyArcade installed and setup with relative ease with SuperResoltion & EDID Emulation using the built in VGA adapter. I will probably get an HP 705 G4 Ryzen 2400G for my next project as it's got a little more power than the 715Q. It's nice to have it all fit in the control panel cavity. I replaced an ArcadeLegends II (Hanaho board) PCB with a full GroovyMame setup using the original harness to a J-Pac. Used a Y Power cable splitter to adapter the cabinet's power adapter to power the new computer and Sound amp.

Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: R25th on May 02, 2023, 10:56:57 pm
Hello

I have an HP ELITEDESK 705 G3 DT MINI A10-9700E 8GB 256GB R7E, Windows 10
1 VGA port and 2 display port
It works with progressive mode but not in interlaced mode

Hello,
I have this exact same setup and I'm having a hell of a time getting vmmaker to find an output for EDID emulation (the dropdown is completely empty). My plan is to hook up the VGA port to a J-PAC but I've so far been unable to get the PC to output a signal that the J-PAC can sync to, 31hz or otherwise. I would rather not switch to linux because I've had a time getting Launchbox working and don't want to change launchers again.
So, I was wondering what your setup looked like where you could output progressive mode at all with that PC. I can switch PCs if I really need to but I'm already in the hole for this setup.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: MiniPC that is CRT Emudriver compatible
Post by: jae on May 08, 2023, 03:28:29 am
I have a Lenovo 715q - Ryzen 5 2400GE. I couldn't get Emudriver working (probably me, not emudriver) but GroovyArcade installed and setup with relative ease with SuperResoltion & EDID Emulation using the built in VGA adapter. I will probably get an HP 705 G4 Ryzen 2400G for my next project as it's got a little more power than the 715Q. It's nice to have it all fit in the control panel cavity. I replaced an ArcadeLegends II (Hanaho board) PCB with a full GroovyMame setup using the original harness to a J-Pac. Used a Y Power cable splitter to adapter the cabinet's power adapter to power the new computer and Sound amp.

Does it work fine with interlace? If so is there there a big delay swapping between progressive and interlace?

I'd like to use it exclusively at 15khz 240p/480i. Wondering if superres/edid is absolutely mandatory on every setup (the only thing that was seamless for me is running it off an old ATI HD-series card where everything just works perfectly albeit no vulkan)