Post by: negative1 on January 06, 2020, 12:10:33 pm
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It’s BURGER TIME! Help Chef Peter Pepper complete orders of hamburgers with Arcade1Up’s debut of the iconic arcade game "BurgerTime," in a 3/4 scale at-home arcade format. Travel through different mazes of increasing difficulty to complete the assembly of burgers, while avoiding Mr. Hot Dog, Mr. Pickle, and Mr. Egg.
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Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2020, 01:20:36 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 06, 2020, 01:52:18 pm
Not that big of an issue. If someone wanted to, they could just remove the other joysticks,
if they only wanted to play burgertime.
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Post by: jennifer on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.I totally didn't notice that...Omg LMAO (snort) :laugh2:
Post by: LTC on January 06, 2020, 02:42:04 pm
Post by: JDFan on January 06, 2020, 03:47:48 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.
Have to agree - It made sense when the cab was going to be a Karate Champ Cab (though then the buttons for Burgertime, Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes looked out of place ) -
Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2020, 03:50:03 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.
Have to agree - It made sense when the cab was going to be a Karate Champ Cab (though then the buttons for Burgertime, Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes looked out of place ) -
As much as I dislike these toys, they could have made a very nice looking Burgertime cab, but they had to go and Flynn’s Arcade it up. This could be the first A1Up that was also Crapmame worthy.
Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2020, 03:50:32 pm
Is Bad Dudes a vertical display game?
Nope!
Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2020, 03:51:05 pm
They've been doing multigame cabinets for awhile now.
Not that big of an issue. If someone wanted to, they could just remove the other joysticks,
if they only wanted to play burgertime.
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That is THE stupidest defense of these I’ve heard in a long time.
Post by: JDFan on January 06, 2020, 03:57:26 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.
Have to agree - It made sense when the cab was going to be a Karate Champ Cab (though then the buttons for Burgertime, Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes looked out of place ) -
As much as I dislike these toys, they could have made a very nice looking Burgertime cab, but they had to go and Flynn’s Arcade it up. This could be the first A1Up that was also Crapmame worthy.
Sad part is it will be a website exclusive so no Walmart Clearance price deals on it after a couple months ( For a $75- $125 clearance price it would make a decent starting point to make a dedicated Burgertime only cab ! )
Post by: negative1 on January 06, 2020, 04:47:04 pm
They've been doing multigame cabinets for awhile now.
Not that big of an issue. If someone wanted to, they could just remove the other joysticks,
if they only wanted to play burgertime.
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the joysticks are junk, and will probably be replaced by the user anyways.
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Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2020, 05:33:46 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.
Have to agree - It made sense when the cab was going to be a Karate Champ Cab (though then the buttons for Burgertime, Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes looked out of place ) -
As much as I dislike these toys, they could have made a very nice looking Burgertime cab, but they had to go and Flynn’s Arcade it up. This could be the first A1Up that was also Crapmame worthy.
Sad part is it will be a website exclusive so no Walmart Clearance price deals on it after a couple months ( For a $75- $125 clearance price it would make a decent starting point to make a dedicated Burgertime only cab ! )
Seriously, it’s probably the first time I ever looked at one of these and thought they almost got it right, but that control panel shows a total lack of common sense.
Post by: leapinlew on January 06, 2020, 05:53:36 pm
OK, that looks ridiculous with four joysticks on the panel. I know why they did it, but it would look at least decent if it was just a single joystick like the game should be.
Have to agree - It made sense when the cab was going to be a Karate Champ Cab (though then the buttons for Burgertime, Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes looked out of place ) -
As much as I dislike these toys, they could have made a very nice looking Burgertime cab, but they had to go and Flynn’s Arcade it up. This could be the first A1Up that was also Crapmame worthy.
Sad part is it will be a website exclusive so no Walmart Clearance price deals on it after a couple months ( For a $75- $125 clearance price it would make a decent starting point to make a dedicated Burgertime only cab ! )
Seriously, it’s probably the first time I ever looked at one of these and thought they almost got it right, but that control panel shows a total lack of common sense.
Did you not like the Star Wars cabinet? That one is good. I really like the profile and I like the tilted screen.
I would absolutely have to put a single joystick on it. They should've just stuck with classic games on this one. It's like a steering wheel on a Galaga cabinet. This cabinet is a miss for me. I can't imagine anyone could walk up and know what controls to use, which is a big deal to me.
Post by: Absoludacrous on January 07, 2020, 07:27:49 pm
Post by: negative1 on January 07, 2020, 10:36:54 pm
This whole thing reads like they had a bunch of leftover games they didn't know what to do with
This was one of the first titles they announced over a year ago.
They're all licensed from Data East, there's nothing random about it.
The reason it was Karate Champ first, is because it was the CEO's favorite game,
people complained that Burgertime was better known, so they switched.
There are a ton of Data East mini arcade games, plug and plays, and other titles out there,
not surprising at all.
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Post by: Absoludacrous on January 07, 2020, 11:02:09 pm
It's the first time they've bundled stuff without much rhyme or reason as to how they fit together as games.
Post by: negative1 on January 07, 2020, 11:47:19 pm
Random in the sense that they ran out of Data East games that bundled together well. Button placement seems bad for everything that isn't Karate Champ. I don't understand how you're supposed to be able to play Caveman Ninja and Bad Dudes on that monitor at all.
It's the first time they've bundled stuff without much rhyme or reason as to how they fit together as games.
i disagree. the rampage cabinet has been the worst of all.
trying to play defender on it, or joust is futile.
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Post by: Howard_Casto on January 08, 2020, 12:54:19 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 08, 2020, 01:12:36 pm
Well what kills me is most of those dataeast games were in a generic dataeast cabinet, like or similar to the ones used by Robocop and Bad dudes. Mind you burgertime is a cool cab, but that vertical monitor means most of the games on there are going to be shrunk down. It's also a fact that nobody but wierdos like me actually like karate champ..... so they ruined the layout for a game nobody will play.
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Karate Champ.... and Burgertime... and I hate this cab...
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2020, 01:37:50 pm
Well what kills me is most of those dataeast games were in a generic dataeast cabinet, like or similar to the ones used by Robocop and Bad dudes. Mind you burgertime is a cool cab, but that vertical monitor means most of the games on there are going to be shrunk down. It's also a fact that nobody but wierdos like me actually like karate champ..... so they ruined the layout for a game nobody will play.
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when you're the CEO of a company, you make the one with your favorite games on it.
i'm sure i would hate the games that are your favorites.
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Post by: yotsuya on January 08, 2020, 01:39:38 pm
i'm sure i would hate the games that are your favorites.
You don’t know how happy that makes me feel, bro.
Post by: negative1 on January 08, 2020, 03:20:55 pm
i'm sure i would hate the games that are your favorites.
You don’t know how happy that makes me feel, bro.
good, because i'm sure that games you like suck also.
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Post by: yotsuya on January 08, 2020, 03:22:27 pm
i'm sure i would hate the games that are your favorites.
You don’t know how happy that makes me feel, bro.
good, because i'm sure that games you like suck also.
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Given this is a thread about toys, I feel this banter is appropriate.
Post by: leapinlew on January 08, 2020, 06:45:56 pm
Karate Champ benefits greatly from using the artwork.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1125/0582/products/Karate_Champ_Bezel_dc7be41c-9126-4f95-ab22-1fb1e8b9d932_480x.jpg?v=1539369271)
Without the art, you lose the move list.
I wouldn't own this cabinet either way. I'm a big Karate Champ fan, but I ruined the game for myself. On a business trip I played it on my laptop with save states. I passed levels I never could playing the CPU and using save states. I learned the game just gets faster and faster to the point that it seems like luck to keep advancing. Lost my interest and never used save states again.
Post by: yotsuya on January 08, 2020, 06:48:37 pm
If we're taking votes, I'll vote that this is a silly looking cabinet. I didn't like the Asteroids cabinet because they added a spinner to accommodate other games, so 4 joysticks on a single player cabinet design is too much for me.Exactly. It’s a stupid design choice. Put 4 other single joystick vertical games on it, and you actually have a winner there. But nooooooooo....
Post by: negative1 on February 02, 2020, 02:43:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QBR-CXDuHA
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Post by: DorkVonWaterfall on February 11, 2020, 12:12:30 pm
Post by: negative1 on February 11, 2020, 05:10:17 pm
stupid.....don`t deliver to Europe...... :badmood: :banghead: :cry:
Unfortunately, they are slow to find distributors overseas.
They were able to get a couple of cabinets out in the UK,
and are still looking for other European countries.
Keep checking with their facebook page for any updates.
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Post by: leapinlew on March 18, 2020, 09:33:16 am
Post by: negative1 on March 18, 2020, 01:12:05 pm
Lots of well-earned complaints about this cabinet. Complaints about the game selection and 8 way joysticks.
That might be, but the game selection and controls were known since they debuted it as karate champ
a year ago.
Also, it didn't stop it from selling out. So, it's just a matter of modding it, if people really want to fix things.
Nothing different, from all their other cabinets (except maybe Star Wars).
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Post by: leapinlew on March 18, 2020, 01:42:07 pm
Lots of well-earned complaints about this cabinet. Complaints about the game selection and 8 way joysticks.
That might be, but the game selection and controls were known since they debuted it as karate champ
a year ago.
Also, it didn't stop it from selling out. So, it's just a matter of modding it, if people really want to fix things.
Nothing different, from all their other cabinets (except maybe Star Wars).
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I think you're missing the point....
The fact that folks are complaining shows they understand the difference between an 8 way and 4 way and game play. Gripes about screen orientation also shows a desire to be more true to the originals. I think it's a bit of a maturing market and Arcade1up will need to do a better job of grouping games together. Defender slipped by, and a few folks didn't like the controller scheme, but seeing many more folks unhappy with the burgertime controls. I get that these are all data east, but they aren't good candidates for a single cabinet. Hopefully Arcade1up does a better job in the future grouping the games together.
I mean, it's a burgertime cabinet, but the controls aren't setup for burgertime. That's kinda screwy.
Post by: JDFan on March 18, 2020, 02:37:00 pm
Also, it didn't stop it from selling out.
Hasn't sold out --- They still have 400 available on their site and that is after 1500 dropped off the inventory system without being sold ( went from just under 2K units in stock one day to 470 units the next when they had only sold approx 1000 the entire time they had pre-orders open ( Probably shipped to a wholesaler like HSN similar to what they did with a large portion of the 8K Marvel limited edition cabs the Marvel Limited Edition cabs that started showing up in Canada for sale through one of their wholesalers. ! )
Post by: leapinlew on March 18, 2020, 05:25:11 pm
It'll be a good modder cabinet, but it would be nice if the cabinet was good as is.
Post by: negative1 on March 19, 2020, 02:58:41 am
Lots of well-earned complaints about this cabinet. Complaints about the game selection and 8 way joysticks.
That might be, but the game selection and controls were known since they debuted it as karate champ
a year ago.
Also, it didn't stop it from selling out. So, it's just a matter of modding it, if people really want to fix things.
Nothing different, from all their other cabinets (except maybe Star Wars).
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I think you're missing the point....
The fact that folks are complaining shows they understand the difference between an 8 way and 4 way and game play. Gripes about screen orientation also shows a desire to be more true to the originals. I think it's a bit of a maturing market and Arcade1up will need to do a better job of grouping games together. Defender slipped by, and a few folks didn't like the controller scheme, but seeing many more folks unhappy with the burgertime controls. I get that these are all data east, but they aren't good candidates for a single cabinet. Hopefully Arcade1up does a better job in the future grouping the games together.
I mean, it's a burgertime cabinet, but the controls aren't setup for burgertime. That's kinda screwy.
looks like they will be addressing the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evej3hBokQ
Someone posted about the 4 way/8 way issue in the official facebook group and John D from Arcade1up responded: "We understand the complaints and are doing something about it. Please stay tuned and thanks for the feedback!"
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Post by: Howard_Casto on March 19, 2020, 02:20:43 pm
Post by: JDFan on March 19, 2020, 02:31:14 pm
Well they can't fix it without breaking the other games on the cab. Karate Champ and Bad Dudes absolutely need 8 way joysticks.
Wasn't Karate Champ 4-way ??
(https://www.iphonelife.com/sites/iphonelife.com/files/u29299/karatechampxl_5.jpg)
Post by: Howard_Casto on March 20, 2020, 01:48:38 am
Post by: leapinlew on March 22, 2020, 06:16:15 pm
Lots of well-earned complaints about this cabinet. Complaints about the game selection and 8 way joysticks.
That might be, but the game selection and controls were known since they debuted it as karate champ
a year ago.
Also, it didn't stop it from selling out. So, it's just a matter of modding it, if people really want to fix things.
Nothing different, from all their other cabinets (except maybe Star Wars).
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I think you're missing the point....
The fact that folks are complaining shows they understand the difference between an 8 way and 4 way and game play. Gripes about screen orientation also shows a desire to be more true to the originals. I think it's a bit of a maturing market and Arcade1up will need to do a better job of grouping games together. Defender slipped by, and a few folks didn't like the controller scheme, but seeing many more folks unhappy with the burgertime controls. I get that these are all data east, but they aren't good candidates for a single cabinet. Hopefully Arcade1up does a better job in the future grouping the games together.
I mean, it's a burgertime cabinet, but the controls aren't setup for burgertime. That's kinda screwy.
looks like they will be addressing the issue:
Someone posted about the 4 way/8 way issue in the official facebook group and John D from Arcade1up responded: "We understand the complaints and are doing something about it. Please stay tuned and thanks for the feedback!"
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So I would take that as admission that this cabinet controls/game selection/controls/screen orientation is a mistake.
It's a shame too, because the cabinet itself is a nice design. In my mind, this is a bigger mistake than the Asteroids spinner. At least the asteroids cabinet could faithfully play Asteroids. This cabinet makes compromises all the way around. Either the screen is squished, or the controls aren't correct - nothing is faithfully reproduced. This cabinet needs to be modded, just so it can play games well.
Post by: negative1 on March 22, 2020, 06:57:53 pm
So I would take that as admission that this cabinet controls/game selection/controls/screen orientation is a mistake.
It's a shame too, because the cabinet itself is a nice design. In my mind, this is a bigger mistake than the Asteroids spinner. At least the asteroids cabinet could faithfully play Asteroids. This cabinet makes compromises all the way around. Either the screen is squished, or the controls aren't correct - nothing is faithfully reproduced. This cabinet needs to be modded, just so it can play games well.
the basic problem has been that there is no one at arcade 1up, that actually knows anything about arcade games.
they don't know the titles, and they don't know how to play them.
they don't know what the proper controls are, and they don't know how they are actually supposed to be played.
the thing is, that 99% of people don't care, and aren't actually any good at these games.
so they can keep trying to get away with putting out things, that are collectors items, instead of machines,
that are used for playing.
there is still a vast majority of people that play these games that aren't any good, and wouldn't know a 4 way joystick
vs 8 way, even if you hit them over the head with it.
i can't get to the slow boards on burgertime, but some people can. i'm sure i would complain if i was an expert.
but can you really tell me that people will complain if that isn't in the game either.
they don't care. this is a slight admission because a few youtube influencers can't play the game properly.
i used to report tons of bugs in the atari games early on, and the vast majority of them have never been
fixed. (to be fair, some were originally like that in the arcade versions, but fixed in emulators released on consoles).
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Post by: negative1 on March 31, 2020, 12:49:27 am
(https://i.redd.it/b7oo11sghvp41.jpg)
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Post by: leapinlew on March 31, 2020, 03:53:34 pm
This cabinet is so close to being a hit. This one is the best candidate for a 60-n-1 conversion to include 1 center mounted 4 way joystick.
Post by: yotsuya on March 31, 2020, 04:16:57 pm
Post by: DorkVonWaterfall on July 05, 2020, 03:31:55 am
information about burgertime fix:
(https://i.redd.it/b7oo11sghvp41.jpg)
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why put a 8 way octagonal gator in a 4 way game??? :angry:
Post by: yotsuya on July 05, 2020, 01:17:06 pm
Post by: leapinlew on July 05, 2020, 02:09:01 pm
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.
Totally agree....
The controls should always be for the featured game. Someone, somewhere, should have said no.
Post by: bobbyb13 on July 05, 2020, 06:27:51 pm
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.
Even with all the other questionable (bad) calls on this machine...
Nobody who has a clue about design and gives a wet crap about gameplay would ever put 4 joysticks on a machine the size of these things.
It absolutely relegates it to a child's toy.
Post by: yotsuya on July 05, 2020, 09:02:29 pm
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.It absolutely relegates it to a child's toy.
It is what it is, bro.
Post by: JDFan on July 05, 2020, 10:39:31 pm
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.
Even with all the other questionable (bad) calls on this machine...
Nobody who has a clue about design and gives a wet crap about gameplay would ever put 4 joysticks on a machine the size of these things.
It absolutely relegates it to a child's toy.
It's 4 joysticks for 2 players ( not a 4 player setup ! ) - So only need to be able to fit 2 people on the machine - which there is plenty of room for unless you both weigh over 300Lbs. !
Post by: bobbyb13 on July 06, 2020, 12:27:03 am
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.
Even with all the other questionable (bad) calls on this machine...
Nobody who has a clue about design and gives a wet crap about gameplay would ever put 4 joysticks on a machine the size of these things.
It absolutely relegates it to a child's toy.
It's 4 joysticks for 2 players ( not a 4 player setup ! ) - So only need to be able to fit 2 people on the machine - which there is plenty of room for unless you both weigh over 300Lbs. !
Not a lot of Samoans in your neighborhood then, eh?
:lol
Post by: negative1 on July 06, 2020, 02:18:36 pm
This whole cabinet is an example of poor planning.
Even with all the other questionable (bad) calls on this machine...
Nobody who has a clue about design and gives a wet crap about gameplay would ever put 4 joysticks on a machine the size of these things.
It absolutely relegates it to a child's toy.
You have no idea about this machine or why it came out.
The CEO of the company wanted a Karate Champ machine. It uses 2 joysticks for 2 players.
Burgertime was an afterthought.
They changed the design, because a lot of people wanted the Burgertime artwork.
Thats why it came out. You must not know much about the arcade games, or you wouldn't
have thought that.
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Post by: bobbyb13 on July 08, 2020, 03:52:45 am
I read the whole thread so I was aware of what you saw fit to repeat.
If the CEO loved Karate Champ that much then why is it a Burgertime machine that plays Karate Champ instead of the other way around?
The afterthought is the marquee game? Doesn't make sense to me at least.
If the CEOs desire really IS the reason (excuse?) this machine exists, it would appear that if anyone doesn't know/care about arcade games it would be the people at Arcade1Up who asked for/allowed that machine to be produced as it was- CEOs opinion be damned.
I could repeat all the aforementioned shortcomings in support of that perspective, but an apparently prevailing sentiment need not be perseverated on in my opinion.
And I would apologize for not knowing enough about arcade games to have a valid opinion, but-
I did play Burgertime a LOT in middle school- and Karate Champ happens to be the only "fighter" I have ever played- when I was in high school and it was new.
And with assistance from a number of helpful people here I have designed and built a few machines myself also.
So I might know a little something about them.
Post by: negative1 on November 25, 2020, 01:31:38 pm
(https://preview.redd.it/l2uct7o98f161.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=67fa513d80162b5e5588b411c711a97eac683efc)
https://arcade1up.com/products/burger-time-arcade-machine
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