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Title: FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on February 13, 2004, 03:28:55 pm
I've got several of these.  Fully cleaned, lubed and tested.  $49 each, plus priority shipping.  

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Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Yander on February 14, 2004, 10:38:41 pm
Do you have pictures? I might buy some of your others if you clean them up when I am a little further in my project.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on February 15, 2004, 08:51:11 am
No pictures, my camera is broken.  I can assure you they look like every other 3" Betson Trackball there is.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Yander on February 15, 2004, 12:47:23 pm
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No pictures, my camera is broken.  I can assure you they look like every other 3" Betson Trackball there is.


Sorry forgot about the camera.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on February 15, 2004, 03:33:46 pm
Sorry forgot about the camera.

LOL!  Not like I expect you to memorize my life's story!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: JamesS on February 18, 2004, 02:58:26 pm
Damn Peale I just sent 28 dollars for a 2 1/2" from Ultimarc, gah.  A week earlier and I would have bought one.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: dhansen on February 18, 2004, 11:11:05 pm
Damn Peale I just sent 28 dollars for a 2 1/2" from Ultimarc, gah.  A week earlier and I would have bought one.

What's the story on the ultimarc track balls? Decent quality?  I've heard they have plastic rollers.

Doug
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: JamesS on February 19, 2004, 10:56:10 am
I have not gotten it yet Dhanson, I will let you know when I get it.

I hope the quality is good, I have not seen many people disparaging it.  But I may have missed that message.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: maraxle on February 23, 2004, 06:44:50 pm
Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of connectors do these trackballs have?  USB?  PS/2?  Something else entirely?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on February 23, 2004, 07:22:52 pm
Six pin molex connector.  You'll either need a mouse hack or a Opti-Pac.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Carsten Carlos on February 27, 2004, 09:51:19 am
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What's the story on the ultimarc track balls? Decent quality?  I've heard they have plastic rollers.


yep, they have plastic rollers. Except the bearring holding the ball, but this wasn't much better, as mine got rusty after three months.  :o  I've no Happ 2 1/4" to compare, but at least the Happ 3" used in Golden tea is much more better.

Next time I need a small trackball, I'll try a Happ or maybe Betson one.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Stingray on March 03, 2004, 02:43:29 pm
Guess I can't hold off any longer. I'll take one. I'll send you a PM.

-S
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 03, 2004, 07:14:59 pm
Got it, thanks Steve.  Check your PM.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: mattnday on March 04, 2004, 02:09:00 am
I'm interested - will they work with a minipac?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 04, 2004, 09:25:35 am
I'm interested - will they work with a minipac?

They're a standard trackball, so I don't see why not.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Jabba on March 04, 2004, 01:49:37 pm
I'm interested - will they work with a minipac?

They're a standard trackball, so I don't see why not.

Will you ship to Canada?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 04, 2004, 02:30:53 pm
Will you ship to Canada?

Of course!  I'll ship worldwide.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Jabba on March 04, 2004, 02:47:51 pm
Will you ship to Canada?

Of course!  I'll ship worldwide.

Ahh, capitalism is alive and well at BYOAC  ;D. What colors do you have? Also, I went to betson.com and could not see a picture. Could you send me a link of a picture?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 04, 2004, 03:15:10 pm
They're all white.  They were pulls from Golden Tee machines.

http://www.wicothesource.com/new2/pages/page89.htm

On the bottom.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: JamesS on March 05, 2004, 10:13:00 am
If you want other colors, you could order one from Bob Roberts.  It will still work out cheaper than buying a brand new one from Happs.

Just an Idea.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Stormy151 on March 09, 2004, 01:40:24 pm
Hey Peale, do you still have any of these?  I clicked on the link at the bottom of your sig.

I'd have to wait until Friday (payday) to send you Paypal or whatever, but I'd still like one if you're willing to wait a few days....:)
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: snowdogg187 on March 10, 2004, 12:12:26 am
Hey, I've got an optipac and I've been working on my mk II mame cab. Would I need anything else to get this trackball working?

I understand you said its a 6 pin molex connector but I see no connector on the opti-pac.

Also are these easy to mount?

thanks
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 10, 2004, 08:37:34 am
Hey, I've got an optipac and I've been working on my mk II mame cab. Would I need anything else to get this trackball working?

I've never hooked an Opti-Pac to a trackball (not having one) but there should be instructions somewhere detailing the process and any extra parts you may need.

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I understand you said its a 6 pin molex connector but I see no connector on the opti-pac.

See above.

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Also are these easy to mount?

I would say if you have the proper mounting hardware, no.  
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Stingray on March 10, 2004, 10:37:15 am
Got mine yesterday. For all of you guys who may have concerns about these trackballs, let me tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Either these were very rarely used or Peale did a bang up job of cleaning them. Mine is spotless inside and out, the ball is bright white, and the bearings seem to have been recently oiled. The bearings and rollers are all metal and very heavy.

I was able to hack this to a mouse in about 30 minutes, no problem. The red wires go to 5 volt +, black to 5 volt -, the other four wires go to left, right, up down on the reciever points on the mouse board. I had to swap the wires around a couple times to get the directions right, since I was just guessing as to what was what on the mouse. Very simple to hook one up. If there's interest I'll post which color is which direction.

I did a little "bench testing" with Centepede after I got the directions right! Can't wait to get a panel built for this thing!

Thanks Peale!

-S
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 10, 2004, 10:44:23 am
Thanks for the praise, Steve!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: windsurf on March 11, 2004, 09:51:21 am
Peale,

I'll take one.  Send me an e-mail and we'll arrange the payment.  

Thanks!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: dabone on March 12, 2004, 08:14:41 am
I'll take one also... please email payment details..


dabonetn  (aatt) comcast . net



thanks!
later,
dabone
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: spauldingd on March 12, 2004, 01:36:57 pm
I'd like one.  I sent a PM or Instant message or whatever, but wanted to post here to be certain.

Dave
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 12, 2004, 02:27:39 pm
Yes, I got your PM and replied.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Stormy151 on March 18, 2004, 10:23:30 pm
I got mine today!  I can't wait for the weekend so I can wire it up.  Thanks Peale! :)

If you're considering a 3" trackball, I'd recommend getting one of these.  You can't beat the price, and Peale was great to deal with.

Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: NOP on March 23, 2004, 07:25:40 pm
Think one of these 3" trackballs would look stupid in a midway cocktail control panel?  They're pretty big.
I wouldn't be playing golden tee with it, but I could see myself playing centipede.  How big is the mounting hardware?  I've only got 5"x9.5"x3" to work with (HxWxD)

thanks,
-jeff!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 23, 2004, 09:25:49 pm
Hoo...I don't think they'll fit.  
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: dabone on March 23, 2004, 10:00:22 pm
Word of warning for people doing the mouse hack on this trackball.
I got one from the good sir here. (Thanks, works great)
The trouble I had was trying to use newer Microsoft Intellimouse oem mice for the hack.
All that would happen is a little twitch of the pointer.
Tried 2 mice.. Both did the same things. Finally broke down tonight and ran down to Walmart and bought the cheapest ps2 mouse for 6.99.
5 mins after I got it home the trackball is working great..
So remember kids... More expensive doesn't mean better.

Later,
dabone
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on March 23, 2004, 11:49:01 pm
I bet I know why, as I had the same problem.  You didn't get the ground correct.  If you haven't tossed it yet, try it again, this time connect your ground either to your power supply, or directly to the ground pin hooked to the PCB.  Once I figured that out, it worked great.  This was on a Memorex 3 button mouse.

Of course, I'm sure every mouse has its quirks (Kelsey has said there are mice he could not get to work) and this may be the case still.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Stingray on March 24, 2004, 08:55:38 am
Think one of these 3" trackballs would look stupid in a midway cocktail control panel?  They're pretty big.
I wouldn't be playing golden tee with it, but I could see myself playing centipede.  How big is the mounting hardware?  I've only got 5"x9.5"x3" to work with (HxWxD)

thanks,
-jeff!


I don't know if this helps you or not, but here's a (not very good) picture of mine mounted in my Midway CP: http://pages.prodigy.net/stingrayg4/misc/arcade/tbspin1.jpg

The panel is six inches from the back to the point where it bends downward. This trackball fit with less than 1/2 inch to spare front and rear.

EDIT: I  just realised you said Midway cocktail. Oops.  :-[ I'd agree with Peale, probably won't fit.

-S
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on June 07, 2004, 03:07:58 pm
I was cleaning out the shop when I realized I still have more of these.  So, just a gentle *bump* to the top, for those interested.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jbeersm on June 15, 2004, 10:27:32 am
Looks like good timing...I'm in the market for a 3" trackball if you still have one left?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on June 15, 2004, 01:08:38 pm
Sure do!  PM me your address so I can calculat shipping.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jbeersm on June 16, 2004, 12:38:24 pm
Does anyone know if the HAPP surface mounting plate (the one with no bolts/screws showing) will work with the Betson Imperial Trackbal.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jcoleman on June 16, 2004, 01:52:46 pm
Those mounting holes are in the same position.  My question is...has anyone figured out how to make these work with the MiniPAC?

Coleman
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: mp2526 on June 16, 2004, 02:39:00 pm
Does anyone know if the HAPP surface mounting plate (the one with no bolts/screws showing) will work with the Betson Imperial Trackbal.

I had to sand down the powder coating on the posts to get them to squeeze into the holes on my betson, but it did however work.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jbeersm on June 16, 2004, 02:41:05 pm
Okay, Thanks for the info.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: sfetaz on June 23, 2004, 03:33:17 am
Please PM me I am highly interested.  Thanks!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on June 23, 2004, 08:42:23 pm
PM sent.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jcoleman on June 23, 2004, 09:35:16 pm
Peale, do the optic boards in your trackballs work with the minipac?  If so, I could use any extras that you have.

Thanks

Coleman
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on June 23, 2004, 09:36:26 pm
They're a standard trackball; I have not tested it (I don't have a MiniPAC) but there is no reason why it should not.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: Witchboard on June 23, 2004, 10:31:27 pm
The only thing the Mini-PAC site says is,
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The full wiring harness for 28 switches and optical controls is available in two versions, for either Happ or Ultimarc trackball. Note that the Ultimarc trackball must be the special version listed for the Mini-PAC. The board will not work with the Suzo/Wico trackball.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on June 24, 2004, 08:13:54 am
The only thing the Mini-PAC site says is,
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The full wiring harness for 28 switches and optical controls is available in two versions, for either Happ or Ultimarc trackball. Note that the Ultimarc trackball must be the special version listed for the Mini-PAC. The board will not work with the Suzo/Wico trackball.

Hope this helps.

Whoa!  Thanks for posting this, Witchboard!
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: jcoleman on June 24, 2004, 09:49:26 am
The problem is that I have an Imperial/Betson TB already and I can't get it to work...my OSCAR spinner work fine on the tb inputs, though, and the tb worked fine before I hacked one of the boards to take out the PS/2 mouse functionality...

Coleman
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: sc1103 on July 09, 2004, 07:49:25 pm
Peale can you check your PM? Thanks
Title: Re:SOLD! 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on October 21, 2004, 07:31:01 pm
Hm...looks like I'm coming into some more trackballs shortly.  
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: AmericanDemon on October 21, 2004, 08:44:18 pm
Keep us up to date.  I'd be interested in one.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: Peter Baluk on October 22, 2004, 09:41:12 pm
so are these Happ or Betsons?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on October 22, 2004, 09:42:55 pm
These new ones are Happ.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: wdw_ryan on October 23, 2004, 01:33:59 am
Are the Happ ones Golden Tee or do the have the light bulb harness?

Thanks,
Ryan
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on October 23, 2004, 08:27:05 am
I got them in a bulk lot.  Won't know much more about them until I have them in hand.  I can tell you that they were advertised as Happ Golden Tee trackballs.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: AmericanDemon on October 23, 2004, 09:05:01 pm
When do you think you will have them in hand?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: Mamezilla on October 23, 2004, 10:09:13 pm
Peale,

If those trackballs are the same that the first bunch you had, I'm interested into getting one of those.  I've sent you a PM about this.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on October 24, 2004, 08:34:05 am
I should have them in hand within a week.  They're coming from .ca

I will post when I have them in hand, and once they're cleaned, lubed and tested I'll post that they will be for sale.


(shameless plug here for the quick disconnects I've got as well, see my sig!)
Title: Re:FS: 3" Betson Imperial Trackballs
Post by: rchadd on October 24, 2004, 02:41:58 pm
Think one of these 3" trackballs would look stupid in a midway cocktail control panel?  They're pretty big.
I wouldn't be playing golden tee with it, but I could see myself playing centipede.  How big is the mounting hardware?  I've only got 5"x9.5"x3" to work with (HxWxD)

thanks,
-jeff!

this was my solution  ;D

the trackball CP is 14" wide

http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=25687

the GT 3" TB is great !

Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: Pacific Ripper on October 24, 2004, 11:09:44 pm
I'm also interested in getting one of those trackballs from you when they're available. If possible, could you please PM me when they are available?
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: EvilNuff on October 26, 2004, 08:07:41 pm
I'd be interested if you get more in as well.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: AmericanDemon on November 15, 2004, 06:08:41 pm
Anything New on Peale?  Oh the suspense.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: SirPeale on November 15, 2004, 06:21:19 pm
I have the trackballs, but have not had the opportunity to do what I need to do to them.  Like the black buttons, I hope to have them done by week's end.
Title: Re:FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: AmericanDemon on November 15, 2004, 07:30:05 pm
Rock on.  ;)
Title: Re: FS: 3" Happ Golden Tee Trackballs
Post by: armax on November 23, 2004, 04:48:32 am
I'll take one.